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 Post subject: Golden Boot
PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:40 pm 
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Had 20 snodgers on the ladyboy Torres to win it and with that goal he has 3 goals along with about 15 others banghead

So who gets it sctatchinghead


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 Post subject: Re: Golden Boot
PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:43 pm 
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I think Torres cos he got 1 assist too

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 Post subject: Re: Golden Boot
PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:49 pm 
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Didn't they say Torres gets it because he had the least minutes on the pitch from the players that finished on the same goals....


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 Post subject: Re: Golden Boot
PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:52 pm 
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Jonny wrote:
Didn't they say Torres gets it because he had the least minutes on the pitch from the players that finished on the same goals....


yep


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 Post subject: Re: Golden Boot
PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:03 pm 
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Chip Fireball wrote:
Checked a couple of bookies and they didnt offer a price on the Golden Boot, just on top goalscorer.

I'd check your slip.



Its with Ladbrokes the offer they had £20 bet and a free £5 everytime they score, slip is in works van at spenny banghead


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 Post subject: Re: Golden Boot
PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:20 pm 
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Torres got it on assists Nowt to do with minutes.

Also topscorer is the golden boot so i would expect bookies to only pay out on Torres

Same thing happened in last world cup with muller getting it because he had more assists than forlan and bookies only payed on muller


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 Post subject: Re: Golden Boot
PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:25 pm 
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[quote="Ritchies birthmark"]Torres got it on assists Nowt to do with minutes.

minutes. :snooty:


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 Post subject: Re: Golden Boot
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Don't see your point, have you not read the thread??

That makes as much sense as the pie season ticket


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 Post subject: Re: Golden Boot
PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:30 pm 
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Horse shit??????? Chip what a knob you are


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 Post subject: Re: Golden Boot
PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:31 pm 
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By Paul GarbettLast Updated: 9:39AM BST 12/07/2010
Germany's Thomas Müller has won the Golden Boot after finishing as the World Cup 2010 top scorer and has also been named as the young player of the tournament.

The Germany attacker claimed the accolade after Holland's Wesley Sneijder and Spain's David Villa failed to hit the net during Spain's famous 1-0 win at the football City stadium.

The 20 year-old German starlet was also named Young Player of the World Cup, capping an incredible tournament in South Africa, having scored five goals from just five shots on target.

Müller's three assists put him ahead of other players on five goals, with Diego Forlan of Uruguay, Wesley Sneijder of Holland and David Villa of Spain missing out on the Golden Boot trophy.

With the tournament boasting a host of star attacking players, few would have predicted that Müller would have such a big impact on football's biggest stage.

The German youngster plays his club football for Bayern Munich and was a leading figure in Germany's under-21 set-up before being called up to the senior squad for a friendly against Argentina in March.

Müller has just made just eight international appearances, with all of his international goals coming at the World Cup. He becomes the second successive German player to win the award, after Miroslav Klose claimed the accolade at the 2006 World Cup.


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 Post subject: Re: Golden Boot
PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:33 pm 
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Thats from your fav paper the guardian

But if you say minutes and your never ever ever wrong then your paper must be talking 'horse shit'


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 Post subject: Re: Golden Boot
PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:46 pm 
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Well coral would only pay on muller in 2010 if your brain can handle that

Other bookies might do a 5 way chop but as I said originally i doubt it. If I'm wrong who really cares. It's hardly talking ' utter horseshit' is it.

But carry on anyways it's been a while......


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 Post subject: Re: Golden Boot
PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:46 pm 
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I agree with chip on this

no goalscorer and 0-0, even though they are the same result they are 2 different bets


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 Post subject: Re: Golden Boot
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Ritchies birthmark wrote:
Torres got it on assists Nowt to do with minutes.

Also topscorer is the golden boot so i would expect bookies to only pay out on Torres

Same thing happened in last world cup with muller getting it because he had more assists than forlan and bookies only payed on muller



Was won due to playing fewer minutes than gomez.

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 Post subject: Re: Golden Boot
PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:51 pm 
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Chip Fireball wrote:
Sorry Mr Verbal but you can completely disregard everything said by Mr Birthmark, as usual it's complete and utter horsesh1t.

In betting terms top goalscorer in the tournament is exactly that, top goalscorer in the tournament. IT IS 100% DEFFO NOT the same as to win the Golden Boot.

If it was the Ladbrokes fiver for every goal thing then I'm pretty sure you have backed him to be top scorer, and its a dead heat with every other player that scored 3 goals.

According to BBC Torres and Muller both had three goals and an assist, but Torres got Golden Boot due to the fact he spent less minutes on the pitch. Dunno if thats true but thats 100 per cent what Lawrenson said.



Torres and gomez?

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 Post subject: Re: Golden Boot
PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:54 pm 
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If it is top goalscorer then they will have to pay out on everyone who had 3 goals. I reckon they will only pay out once and that be on Torres for winning boot

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 Post subject: Re: Golden Boot
PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:55 pm 
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Only a fool would take 0-0 when you can have no goalscorer, 4 own goals in a 2 all draw and you win.

Not really arsed to be honest was only trying to help, chip came in being his usual arrogant knobish self.

Good luck with ya bet


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 Post subject: Re: Golden Boot
PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:58 pm 
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Did gomez and Torres have equal assists then, beating ballotelli and the Russian guy and whoever else had 3.


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 Post subject: Re: Golden Boot
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Just read chips t and c and maybe I'm blind but were does it say what happens if there's a tie, I don't see how that's proof all will be paid and not just Torres.

Generally the 'topscorer' wins the golden boot.

However chip obviously you are correct and will have a lob on tomorrow and I won't simply give a shit

Night night


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 Post subject: Re: Golden Boot
PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:10 pm 
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have a coffee,or drink some water,ritchie.. confised


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 Post subject: Re: Golden Boot
PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:21 pm 
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Ritchies birthmark wrote:
Well coral would only pay on muller in 2010 if your brain can handle that

Other bookies might do a 5 way chop but as I said originally i doubt it. If I'm wrong who really cares. It's hardly talking ' utter horseshit' is it.

But carry on anyways it's been a while......



I'm sorry but this is not correct. I had money on forlan with coral and they paid out. If the coral you bet on would only pay out on muller then you have been done over. As chip has stated at the start of the tournament the bookies offer odds on top goalscorer, doubt they would offer golden boot.

The way in which it works out in the event of a tie (6 players this euro 2012) is the dead heat rule is applied. Your stake is divided by however many winners of the bet there are and paid out at full odds. this ensures the bookies don't lose money by paying out all winners. It also stops them losing money from the golden boot being decided by alternative means (for example torres and gomez having an assist but torres playing less minutes). if you take gomez (8/1 pre tournament) and torres (around 14/1 pre tournament) then the bookies wouldn't let themselves be exposed for the extra money they would pay out because of torres winning by means other than goals

hope this clears anybody's queries up and isn't taken in a cocky and arrogant way


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 Post subject: Re: Golden Boot
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The Ghost of Sussex07 wrote:
have a coffee,or drink some water,ritchie.. confised


Wasn't on the drink and wasn't being a troll, was simply trying to help until the knob known as chip tried to be and achieved being a clever dick. Was no need at all but whatever floats his boat


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 Post subject: Re: Golden Boot
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 7:19 am 
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chunky1988 wrote:
Ritchies birthmark wrote:
Well coral would only pay on muller in 2010 if your brain can handle that

Other bookies might do a 5 way chop but as I said originally i doubt it. If I'm wrong who really cares. It's hardly talking ' utter horseshit' is it.

But carry on anyways it's been a while......



I'm sorry but this is not correct. I had money on forlan with coral and they paid out. If the coral you bet on would only pay out on muller then you have been done over. As chip has stated at the start of the tournament the bookies offer odds on top goalscorer, doubt they would offer golden boot.

The way in which it works out in the event of a tie (6 players this euro
2012) is the dead heat rule is applied. Your stake is divided by however many winners of the bet there are and paid out at full odds. this ensures the bookies don't lose money by paying out all winners. It also stops them losing money from the golden boot being decided by alternative means (for example torres and gomez having an assist but torres playing less minutes). if you take gomez (8/1 pre tournament) and torres (around 14/1 pre tournament) then the bookies wouldn't let themselves be exposed for the extra money they would pay out because of torres winning by means other than goals

hope this clears anybody's queries up and isn't taken in a cocky and arrogant way


The bet I had in 2010 was David villa/Spain In a combo. They wouldn't pay me because of the assists by muller. Now I'm quite certain the coupen said topscorer/winners. I argued but to no avail.

If you were paid out on forlan well done.

No I dont think you are being arrogant, you didn't quote me saying I was talking utter horseshit and to disregard everything I said.

It's strange how people can try and help someone and others feel the need to try and have a go. These people are a waste of fresh air


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 Post subject: Re: Golden Boot
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 8:03 am 
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Not checked Corals, but Bet365 are paying out on top goalscorer, not golden boot. Dead heat rules apply so any winning bet on that market with them would result in the punters stake being split between all those with three goals, ie a £5 bet would be £1 on each if five players scored three goals. Assists, goal minutes etc do not apply.


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 Post subject: Re: Golden Boot
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 8:15 am 
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Just had a quick look on Corals results page and for outright top goalscorer they are saying there was no winner in this market. Looks like they might be voiding all top goalscorer bets.


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 Post subject: Re: Golden Boot
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Just to put this to bed i phoned Ladbrokes and Torres was top scorer along with 5 others so my £20 stake is divided by 6

So thats £3.33 going on a 14/1 bet

Simples really now you 2 stop bitching with each and be best of friends :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Golden Boot
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OddsOnPhil wrote:
Just had a quick look on Corals results page and for outright top goalscorer they are saying there was no winner in this market. Looks like they might be voiding all top goalscorer bets.


That's probably illegal

It's either Torres or all 6

Surely they have to pay out on 1 of those outcomes , saying that coral have had me right over in the past so wouldn't surprise me


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 Post subject: Re: Golden Boot
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Chip Fireball wrote:
verbalkint wrote:
Just to put this to bed i phoned Ladbrokes and Torres was top scorer along with 5 others so my £20 stake is divided by 6

So thats £3.33 going on a 14/1 bet

Simples really now you 2 stop bitching with each and be best of friends :wink:


You more than doubled your money, plus in 2 days time you will have £15 in free bets. Not the result you were hoping for I suspect mate, but still better than a kick in the puds, and probably a decent result given the situation with 10 minutes to go.



Over the moon mate like you said i wasnt really in with a shout while he was sat on the bench banghead

If only he had took that chance at the end instead of laying it off :roll: but never mind im up :grin:


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