Having read all sorts of arrogant garbage on the Windies boards. I can add my views:
1. It was debatable if it was a foul, it appeared as if there was a minor touch and Madine tumbled.
2. Virtually every Wednesday player apart from the keeper surrounded the ref demanding dismissal [ despite Megson denying this later on Radio Sheffield]
3. The ref was behind play and quite rightly consulted the liner
4. The question to be asked was did Hartley deny Madine a goal scoring opportunity, obviously the liner thought not, end of story.
5. In fairness to Megson he did not dwell on the incident in his interview and conceeded that they defended poorly at times, actually saying that Rob Jones had a stinker and was about to be substituted when he turned his ankle.
6. In my honest opinion as the referee gave a foul against Hartley he was lucky to stay on the field. But it makes up for the penalty given against him by Oliver Langford at Colchester last season. Occasionally we must get some luck with referees

I haven't seen the incident but something has to be done about the hounding of referees.

Lots of teams in the prem do it and dare say I it, generally the better supported/more successful clubs do it all the time as even if they don't get the decision, it triggers a little devil in the back of the refs head and you just know that he's likely to give something else later in the game

Rochdale

Rochdale?????? Your point is?

Exactly, if anyone other than the captain approach the ref in an intimidating manner they should just be booked straight away. it has been said on here before that footballers should follow the example of rugby players when it comes to respecting the officials.

At half-time yesterday the ref was surrounded by whinging SWFC players. Each one should have been booked on the spot.

I agree!! It baffles me why the FA don't just adopt the rugby stance. It's one of the least appealing parts of the game watching players surrounding the ref, sometimes even grabbing their arms etc to get their attention. Book any man apart from the captain and the man the ref is directly engaging in discussion.

I thought it was a foul. Others around me thought he went down too easily. However there was plenty of cover so no way was it ever going to be a sending off. Surprised the ref even had to consult the lino.
However, a Sheff Wed friend of mine said the resulting free kick was almost caught in two hands by Hartley and it should have been a pen. We obvisouly coulnt see that.
However even if this was the case iot's about time we had a bit of luck against them and overall I though we were ful value for the point.

Makes up for Westwood's sending off then ...

Referees are their own biggest enemies. If they stamped on this surrounding, gesticulating, imaginary card waving mob of players then it wouldn't last long, but they don't.
All they have to do is inform each manager and team that they are not going to stand for it....end of story.
Initially there might be a few early baths but they'll all soon get the message.
Players only do it because they get away with it.

Doesn't come close to making up for Westoods sending off.

THIS ^^^^^^^ all day. Until the FA do something about the likes of (see what I did there)? ..... Mancini, then T.L.O Megson and his players will do it

Lee Clark and his bunch of arseholes at Huddersfield have been doing this for 3 years

When the foul was committed he was the last man and a red card wouldn't have been harsh. He was very lucky to stay on the pitch. As for there players asking for a red, there was just as many pools players round the referee so don't understand why people are moaning about it. It's nice to see a referee not be influenced by a large home crowd

How does 1 point make up for missing out on promotion??

I was being sarrcarrstic Stephen ...

I dont think it was even a foul never mind a booking. Contact was minimal and it was a case of each player giving as good as they get, in them situations the attacker always gets the decision because he can go down, if the defender goes down and doesnt get it the attacker is through on goal. No win situation ofr defenders in a 50/50 fight for the ball.

this is true

Agree MadJohn I have seen it on the Pools Player highlights and there is no question it was a foul and I think we where very lucky the ref only gave a yellow. You see players walk for that every week. I feel had it been a Wendie defender of a Pools forward this thread would be asking why he wasn't sent off and complaining of big club bias.

We'll take it though because we have been on the end of a few dubious decisions of late, none more so than last week when Lidds scored a perfectly good goal that was given off side.

Cooper seems to think he was lucky to stay on the pitch

http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/sport/football/hartlepool-utd/match-report/hartlepool_boss_neale_cooper_admits_peter_hartley_was_lucky_against_sheffield_wednesday_1_4170541

It's hard to feel sympathy or any grudging admiration for Madine as he seems to be one of those odious tossers who have been allowed to let being a footballer go to their head and make them feel untouchable. His antics outside the game confirm my feelings. The dick.

Madine is a 'lovely lovely person' and no mistake. It would be very difficult to feel sorry for a player like him if he got one of those broken leg injuries with the bone sticking through his skin

Agree it was definitly a foul and fair play to the referee for not going with the 16,000 odd shouting for a red and the players chasing him. Would have been a lot easier for him to just give a red and giving in to the home fans etc. Fairplay for taking his time and going to the linesman too.

ps isnt their history between Hartley and Madine? Didnt Hartley smack him off the ball at home?

One of the moments of the season that.....heard the slap in the Millhouse and the Geordie arsehole squeel like a baby......the tart.

Hartley's face after it was a picture. Madine completely lost his head after that and was subbed to save him from a certain red card.

That's just funny....

Is it on vid anywhere??