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 Post subject: Alex Ferguson couldn't sort this lot out
PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 5:52 pm 
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Fooooking disgraceful.
He's on a hiding to nothing Cooper. IOR are going to have to splash some cash or we're going to be relegated.
Luke James the only one to come out with any credit banghead

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 Post subject: Re: Alex Ferguson couldn't sort this lot out
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100% agree pal. We could be well fooked if we don't get it sorted.


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Apart from us, Scunthorpe are the worst team I've seen this season and we can't beat them banghead


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Slow.
Weak.
Lethargic.
Sums it up for me, but what a player Luke James is going to be.

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The Lightning Tree wrote:
Fooooking disgraceful.
He's on a hiding to nothing Cooper. IOR are going to have to splash some cash or we're going to be relegated.
Luke James the only one to come out with any credit banghead


Totally agree we are shite and in trouble.


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 Post subject: Re: Alex Ferguson couldn't sort this lot out
PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 6:11 pm 
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Cooper has got no chance. These players can't run, pass or control a ball, can't move into space, they can't do the fu-cking basics. How much money are they on? The cheeky pack of wankers

How many deserve to be here?
No more than 3 or 4 at a push

And anyone who says Humphreys played well wants hitting over the head with a mallet. I'm glad I'm at work on Saturday

League Two beckons

Cooper will then get the chance to prove himself with a new squad, unless of course Jedward get rid of him and he takes the blame for what they and Wadsworth have done. I'm gonna add my piece about him on the thanks thread - I hope he had a miserable Chrimbo sat on his own in a tent in a field somewhere, the useless twat. Thanks very much for removing all football hope from my team in a season where we had nearly 6000 ticket holders. Thanks for retaining non footballers like Austin, Liddle, Murray and Sweeney, and way past-it ones like Humphreys.
Turning Horwood and Hartley into rubbish
Trying to play Monkhouse as a forward


Anyway, they must now prove they can attempt to play the game they say they can play. They want paying the money and have no shame in picking it up every week. Their lives should be made hell this week.
9 successive home defeats.

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 Post subject: Re: Alex Ferguson couldn't sort this lot out
PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 6:12 pm 
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The Lightning Tree wrote:
Slow.
Weak.
Lethargic.
Sums it up for me, but what a player Luke James is going to be.



You could kind of understand the slow bit if we were tall but were not even that.

Humps and Sweeney centre mid? The slowest player iv ever seen next to a player who rarely touches the ball. :roll:

Luscombe may aswell have spent the afternoon in Ladbrokes, Austin may aswell go join Darlo and if Liddle seriously cant pass the ball forward at 1-0 down then we have major problems.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 6:16 pm 
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Today was as bad ad it's been all season. The creativity in the whole team brings a tear to the eye.

James did ok but nothing more. In all honesty it was just garbage all over. Scunthorpe were crap too but at least pit a couple of decent spells together.

Rubbish, rubbish, rubbish. Thank Heaven I'm busy next weekend.


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 Post subject: Re: Alex Ferguson couldn't sort this lot out
PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 6:17 pm 
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You forgot the housewives favourite Adam Boyd.
He truly was abysmal.

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 Post subject: Re: Alex Ferguson couldn't sort this lot out
PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 6:19 pm 
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I could be wrong here Mick but I'm guessing you were unimpressed.


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I kind of thought that myself when I seen the teamsheet. I have to wonder what caveats were given to Coops in order for him to be offered the job.


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 Post subject: Re: Alex Ferguson couldn't sort this lot out
PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 6:31 pm 
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Chip Fireball wrote:
The bottom line is that too many of the players aren't good enough, and as long as the Chairman decides who stays and who goes, things wont change.


Do you know that for a fact Chip?

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 Post subject: Re: Alex Ferguson couldn't sort this lot out
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Chip Fireball wrote:
We we joint 11th when Wadsworth left. Since then we have lost four out of five.

How can he possibly be blamed for todays defeat ? Cooper picked Humps, Luscombe, and Boyd, three of the least fit players in professional football. Cooper binned Baldwin who at least looks like a footballer, and kept Brown on the bench,who at least looks likes he gives a sh!t.

The bottom line is that too many of the players aren't good enough, and as long as the Chairman decides who stays and who goes, things wont change.


Give over chip, Boyd was by means great today but he did everything that was asked of him and was improved on recent weeks, he chased the keeper down every single time (the only one to do so) won 90% of headers (which is unlike him!), even tackled a few times, and all that without any service whatsoever from the slowest, least skilful centre-midfield of all-time. Of course if he was partnered with a striker instead of a left-winger with 1 goal this season we might get somewhere.


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 Post subject: Re: Alex Ferguson couldn't sort this lot out
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Chip, if we had a Joel Porter type player do you think Boydy would benefit from that?


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 Post subject: Re: Alex Ferguson couldn't sort this lot out
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boydy looked ok, i wish he'd just wear normal footy based instead of them lead bottomed ones as they really stop him jumping for headers.

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 Post subject: Re: Alex Ferguson couldn't sort this lot out
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if that's the case then I don't understand why Cooper returned, unless he is desperate for money. If KH retains players based on who he "likes" then we are fucked and we will only end up relegated. Several have been given contracts when I thought they should hasve been released well before now - Sweeney, Liddle, Humphreys, Austin, Collins, Murray just to get started
How do they expect us to react? 9 successive home defeats to largely mediocre teams!!!!!!
What was the point of the season ticket offer, seriously? When they don't know what they are doing in a football sense, and are awarding contracts to shysters and ne'er-do-wells? Do they seriously think they have made a success of things?
What an unbelievable waste of money if that is the case

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 Post subject: Re: Alex Ferguson couldn't sort this lot out
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parmo wrote:
if that's the case then I don't understand why Cooper returned, unless he is desperate for money. If KH retains players based on who he "likes" then we are fucked and we will only end up relegated. Several have been given contracts when I thought they should hasve been released well before now - Sweeney, Liddle, Humphreys, Austin, Collins, Murray just to get started
How do they expect us to react? 9 successive home defeats to largely mediocre teams!!!!!!
What was the point of the season ticket offer, seriously? When they don't know what they are doing in a football sense, and are awarding contracts to shysters and ne'er-do-wells? Do they seriously think they have made a success of things?
What an unbelievable waste of money if that is the case


Couldn't of put it better my self.

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 Post subject: Re: Alex Ferguson couldn't sort this lot out
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Sweeney, Liddle and Murray were all in the running for player of the year last season, Sweeney won it and was top goal scorer.
To slag MW off for retaining them is a bit daft.
I'm sure everyone on here was happy when they signed on for another year.


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 Post subject: Re: Alex Ferguson couldn't sort this lot out
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Today should hopefully at least end the idea, once and for all, that all we need is a decent forward. People were still saying this today within my earshot at the match.

Parmo has summed up the basics of passing etc. which are poor but the level of our play off the ball is terrible. There is never any sort of attempt to play the ball in behind one of the opposition's lines and less attempt by any of our supposed attacking players to look to get into space. The players are far to static when in possession and this invites pressure ultimately resulting in only one option which is pass back to the keeper. Luke James got himself into some good positioins at times during the first half and I said at the time that our best tactic would be try and work the ball constructively down the right as often as possible because it was obvious within 5 minutes than nothing was going to work involving Luscombe.

Regarding our pressing game and desire to make life hard for our opponents I think the botched back pass by one of their players to the keeper, that nearly went out for a corner, summed it up best. One player went to pressure the keeper, as expected, and everyone else just stood still. No attacking the space their full back would look to receive the ball in from the keeper, no pressurising the full back himself, nothing at all. It really was quite disgraceful.


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 Post subject: Re: Alex Ferguson couldn't sort this lot out
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I remember a few years ago when Joel Porter kept us up on his own just about.
A year after that we were in the shit and signed Roy o Donovan on loan and got the goals to keep us up.
We need a decent striker before out else.


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 Post subject: Re: Alex Ferguson couldn't sort this lot out
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klinger wrote:
I remember a few years ago when Joel Porter kept us up on his own just about.
A year after that we were in the shit and signed Roy o Donovan on loan and got the goals to keep us up.
We need a decent striker before out else.


Both of those seasons we stayed up by the skin of the skin of our teeth. So even with a better forward we were still, on the whole, useless.


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klinger wrote:
Sweeney, Liddle and Murray were all in the running for player of the year last season, Sweeney won it and was top goal scorer.
To slag MW off for retaining them is a bit daft.
I'm sure everyone on here was happy when they signed on for another year.


I agree with you here though :wink:


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both of you make a valid point.
But someone who can score goals with few opportunities is what we need. Can we get someone like that?
I hope so

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I think my main issue with the forward debate is that I see it as too much of a quick fix and isn't addressing the real problems. Namely, and again this is IMHO, we are not posing any sort of threat from deep and can't keep hold of the ball for any substantial periods.

A forward like O'Donovan probably would put away some of the half chances we do get when the opposition occasionaly make a mistake from one of the billion high balls we fire at them but is that honestly what we want to aim for?

Once he's fit again I would put Nish back in. He's big enough and when he does play he does usually take a couple of players with him. But unfortunately we then run into the problem of other players not attacking any space that is created.

It's all a bit grim at the moment sadx


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Bramstein wrote:
I think my main issue with the forward debate is that I see it as too much of a quick fix and isn't addressing the real problems. Namely, and again this is IMHO, we are not posing any sort of threat from deep and can't keep hold of the ball for any substantial periods.

A forward like O'Donovan probably would put away some of the half chances we do get when the opposition occasionaly make a mistake from one of the billion high balls we fire at them but is that honestly what we want to aim for?


At the moment, yes. sadx


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We could have Messi playing up front for us and he would struggle to score as we cant create chances. The fact is our players are not good enough, its obvious. Scunny were far better than us, mainly down to the fact that they could manage the basics - controlling and passing a football. Our players are shocking, and I would have little hesitation in saying that they are one of the poorest pools teams I have seen since I started supporting pools in 88/89. They are non-league standard. There are a only a few players in our squad who are good enough to play in league 1 - Hartley, Horwood (both of whom are unfortunately struggling at the minute), Poole and James (potentially).

Flinders is a league 2 keeper at best,
Austin while techincally is a canny player has lost his way,
Liddle (who looked the dogs danglies when we got him, now is dreadful),
Collins has been useless and like every other player apart from James and Poole is too fecking slow for league 1.
Humphreys is an embarrasment and should retire gracefully.
Murray is so-so but i dont think he would get in many league 1 sides.
Nish is pish
Boyd is too lazy and slow.
Monkhouse doesnt have the ability to get past players when on the wing in this league. He isnt a striker either.
Solano im sorry to say is a fat waste of a shirt.
Baldwin has promise.

The vast majority of our squad should have been released yonks ago. I really dont know what Cooper can do with that bunch. He is on a hiding to nothing. Relegation does beckon. When the poorest sides in the division outplay us the you know it is grim.

Like many others Im glad im busy next saturday.

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no wonder they are complacent when they get contracts when they shouldn't have got, regardless of who it was gave them out

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