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 Post subject: Was Maggie right?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 7:07 pm 
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One for Mr I methinks ... http://www.channel4.com/news/thatcher-a ... ed-decline

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I don't even need to read - of course she was.


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Tell you what Mr I read it but for Liverpool read Hartlepool and then tell me she was right. She left the north east to managed decline as well didn't she?


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Tell you what Mr I read it but for Liverpool read Hartlepool and then tell me she was right. She left the north east to managed decline as well didn't she?


Controversial ...

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 Post subject: Re: Was Maggie right?
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Tell you what Mr I read it but for Liverpool read Hartlepool and then tell me she was right. She left the north east to managed decline as well didn't she?


Let me understand this. she was advised to abandon Liverpool and she chose not to take that advise, instead she sent Hesletine up there to look at regeneration. Explain to me which part of that you disagree with because I'm confused as to what your argument is.


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 Post subject: Re: Was Maggie right?
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I took the kids to the pictures yesterday and the trailer came on for that film about her. People got up and walked out.



Of course they would, after all, they listened to their grandad (who always voted Labour) and because they were too fooking thick to formulate a thought of their own.


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 Post subject: Re: Was Maggie right?
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As for her being directly responsible the decline of the North East; give me details not headlines from 'The Socialist Worker'.


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 Post subject: Re: Was Maggie right?
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Chip Fireball wrote:
I took the kids to the pictures yesterday and the trailer came on for that film about her. People got up and walked out.

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The only politician with balls.


Literally.

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 Post subject: Re: Was Maggie right?
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Maybe if she was still on power,we might not be in the shit.No politician since had had an steely determination to protect this countries interests.


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 Post subject: Re: Was Maggie right?
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Oh she shut the mines, steelworks, shipyards and stole sweets from babies - what a lot of utter bollox. As for the milk snatcher; read the last release of government documents, Maggie was the one arguing against it but eventually she had to fall in line with collective responsibility. You commies always seem to miss that bit out and as usual spout the same old tabloid headlines without colouring in the spaces.


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I will be celebrating as much as anyone when the bitch dies,but I really hope the present bastard of a prime minister dies before her.

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I will be representing all you bunkerites at the funeral.


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 Post subject: Re: Was Maggie right?
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I will be waving a banner with your name on along with the legend; Maggie we'll love you, the greatest Prime Minister in History. Signed Groovy Crimes of Hartlepool


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 Post subject: Re: Was Maggie right?
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Can I join ur right wing death squad Mr I.


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 Post subject: Re: Was Maggie right?
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I don't care about the politics argument but if we had someone with her strength and intellegence in charge instead of the current Etonian and the previous charisma black hole Labour appointed that the country would be in a much better state than it is right now.

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Right wing death squads are basically lily livered social workers. We need far more radical politics.


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Spinbowler - do us all a favour and stick to being an arse about Darlo.


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 Post subject: Re: Was Maggie right?
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Thatch's strength and intelligence? Fook me - a pint of whats he's had ...


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 Post subject: Re: Was Maggie right?
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I'm confused, this had never been a decisive subject before.


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 Post subject: Re: Was Maggie right?
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Thatch's strength and intelligence? Fook me - a pint of whats he's had ...


After having watched Gordon Brown drag a country that was doing well into the mire, and now watching a half baked attempt at avoiding doing what needs to be done to get us out of it again by an alleged different party someone who would just show the balls to be unpopular for a while by doing the right thing would be a breath of fresh air.

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 Post subject: Re: Was Maggie right?
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Thatch's strength and intelligence? Fook me - a pint of whats he's had ...


After having watched Gordon Brown drag a country that was doing well into the mire, and now watching a half baked attempt at avoiding doing what needs to be done to get us out of it again by an alleged different party someone who would just show the balls to be unpopular for a while by doing the right thing would be a breath of fresh air.


Not being an arse or owt but there are so many verbs and nouns and stuff in that sentence I havent a fecking clue what you are on about. I'm getting the impression that Gordon Brown was shite and Thatch was mint. Which she patently wasn't.


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 Post subject: Re: Was Maggie right?
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Mr I,can you expound what is required.


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 Post subject: Re: Was Maggie right?
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Oh fook - just been a little sick over the keyboard ...


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 Post subject: Re: Was Maggie right?
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Utter tosh. Go away Chip, put down your history of the world by Neil Kinnock and look again.

For a start you "Black Monday, the ERM, 15% interest rates, record repossessions,negative equity" were not under Maggie and the 3 million unemployed was as direct result of the cows arse of an economy left behind by Callaghan and his Labour mess. Sound familiar?


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Utter tosh. Go away Chip, put down your history of the world by Neil Kinnock and look again.

For a start you "Black Monday, the ERM, 15% interest rates, record repossessions,negative equity" were not under Maggie and the 3 million unemployed was as direct result of the cows arse of an economy left behind by Callaghan and his Labour mess. Sound familiar?



What!

Feck me I live in an entirely different universe to Mr I!

Cos in my universe the first 2 in that sentence definitely happened under the MilkSnatcher and I'm pretty sure the last did too - to be fair they inheriteded pi$$, but so did the labour government after Major/that bald twat.


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Spinbowler - do us all a favour and stick to being an arse about Darlo.


I can't win can I? :laugh:

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Nah mate! Your talking about HAROLD WILSON!


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Feck me I live in an entirely different universe to Mr I!

Cos in my universe the first 2 in that sentence definitely happened under the MilkSnatcher and I'm pretty sure the last did too - to be fair they inheriteded pi$$, but so did the labour government after Major/that bald twat.


You do indeed because the econony that Liebour inherited was hardly shabby, thats where they got all the money to piss up the wall in their first term. They'd ran out by the time the second one came so they started borrowing heavy, You know the rest.


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Cock? FANNY! :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Was Maggie right?
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He will be telling us next Maggie didnt have the benefit of massive North Sea Oil revenue, or sell off everything we owned for pennies to Johhnny Foreigner . :wink:


fook has the oil run out,or were such revenues still available to Labour.


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 Post subject: Re: Was Maggie right?
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Mr I. Why do you have this Inherent love of thatcher? You speak of other labour prime ministers pre and post thatcher and the bad job they did? She is hated immensely by millions, the day she dies will be a happy day for many. Regardless of how much you dribble on the facts remain, she sold the country down the pan, FACT. She and her brain dead colleagues thought it was better to sell everything, put hundreds of thousands on the scrap heap and then fail to invest in to private sector to boost jobs. Oh and one other thing, those millions on the dole all needed to be kept costing the country millions and lowering morale to all time low and believe me, when people get 'stuck in a rut' it is very hard to get out of. Time will proove me correct when the current set of inept high class inbreeds do just as bad a job.

Oh think I have just worked it out, you are thatchers secret love child?


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And this follow the crowd attitude is exactly why Hartlepool will never prosper. Labour can shit on you all and you'll still vote for them. You'll always follow the dogma and ignore the facts about Maggie. Look at what she inherited from Labour and look how she handed it back. Then do the same comparison with any Labour government.


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I've said it before but here we go with a repeat....

The miners had three major problems;

ridiculous wage demands in the face of cheaper coal from abroad and rising costs.
Their insistence on following Marxist lunatics like 'King Arthur'
Finally, their institutionalised thievery from the pits. It was fooking endemic.

The miners did for themselves. I've had this argument in Horden (my dad is a yakker) and admittedly it didn't go down too well but that doesn't change the veracity of the point

Cast your mind back and think about what was had away from the pits. You need a new fence? get some wood from the pit. How many people went to B&Q for a new spade or tools? Fooking none of them!

As for me, leaving school in 1979 left few options. The dole, a YOP scheme, or the forces. I chose the latter by accident and it was the best and worst thing I ever did. My respect for Maggie has little to do with being looked after, its more due to her overall period of government along with of course, the way she gave its pride back to Britain.


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Of course they are but the overwhelming majority of the country then regained their pride in the country. The start of that was the Falklands of course which Maggie dealt with masterfully. She was stabbed in the back when some of her back benchers panicked and they lived to regret it. To be fair, Maggie had lost her edge by that stage.

For the record, I voted Liberal last time out because I don't have much faith in Cameron and I detest Osbourne. They are not the same league as the Baroness.

Labour; Wilson did well first time out, shite the rest of his incumbency. Callaghan was a disaster although a decent man. Blair was a front man, nothing more and Brown was a complete arse. Heath was also a fool and very much in the vane of the old school tie brigade. Maggie was none of those things.


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 Post subject: Re: Was Maggie right?
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Nigel Lawson was indeed a cock, however you have to be grateful to him for producing Nigella, when I pass, I want to come back as her bra :razz:


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I am by no means a great political expert, but my memories of Thatcher is
as follows: she screwed the working man and the unions and everything inbetween.
Therefore in my solitary opinion she annihilated everything the United Kingdom stood for.
Mr Cameron is doing the same to rob us blind, whilst completely disregarding the trade unions that many of us
pay our hard earned money into ( courtesy of Mrs T.).
At this point it is important to state that I am incredimaly drunk. If any of the previous is spelt correctly,
let alone have any relevance, it will be amazing!!!!

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