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 Post subject: Re: BBC to axe the football league show
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Ah for fook sake...that was the only way I could ever get to see 'Pools play..fair enough I was illegally downloading it, but as we have no coverage of the lower leagues here is Australia my consience was clear.

Hopefully ITV or Sky will fill the void and pick up the TV rights...and then hopefully someone will upload it onto t'internet so I can download it.

At the rate they are going the beeb won't be making any shows shortly..which is a shame because the have produced some stonking good shows!!

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:35 am 
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Another reason to scrap the TV License fee. Shocking decision.

The license fee is an absolute joke. There is nothing at all worth watching on BBC apart from Top Gear and Frozen Planet.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:24 am 
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Hopefully itv or espn will pick it up and show it some respect, the bbcs coverage has been shameful at best.

"we've got this great show, an opportunity for real football fans to feel closer to their clubs... so lets show it at fucking midnight on a saturday night when no one gives a shit!"

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 Post subject: Re: BBC to axe the football league show
PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:56 am 
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phil wrote:
So we lose the Grand Prix and the football so we can keep tennis and athletics.

Tennis is far more watchable than any Grand Prix race. I can't believe you're even using that as an argument after one of the most exciting tennis seasons was broadcast very well on the Beeb and the Grand Prix season was one of the worst seasons in my living memory, incredibly tedious.

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Get in. In fact, the amount of crap on those channels, they merge BBC3 and 4 because there is no point in them both, stop with crap shows that are exactly the same as they were 10 series ago like Top Gear and Lark Rise To Candleford (what ever that even is)

I'm sure the BBC will stop Top Gear despite it being one of the most popular programmes on television. And for each Lark Rise to Candelford - half decent by the way - there is a brilliant period piece like Great Expectations now, or Bleak House and Cranford in the past.

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Keep the proper tele people (I, just me, I don't care that darts is very popular, I find it dull so it's is scrapped) actually watch.

Darts is superb. refred

And I think you'll find that the BBC are keeping the television that people are actually watching otherwise they'd take it off air.


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 Post subject: Re: BBC to axe the football league show
PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:33 am 
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The issue is not so much with the BBC more the football watching public. If enough people watched the show then it would not be axed, that is just a business decision, a different air time should be tried first though.

There are too many people who watch Premier League football and don't care about the Football League, to some it's like it doesn't exist, and if you want to see the goals from the FL you can watch it on Sky sports news which most people have access too on the various satelite and digital.

It is a damn shame it is not going to be aired anymore as it was a great programme, but one I only ever watched on iPlayer because the beeb put it on too late. That was the big mistake and instead of axing it they should try it on BBC2 before MOTD is aired.

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Do they know Neale Cooper is back, surley this would change their mind.


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 Post subject: Re: BBC to axe the football league show
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I like some of the things the BBC do:

Top gear
6 Music
5 Live
Some of the stuff on BBC4

That's it really.

I hate that Sky have F1 now and that they charge to show live footy (even if it is Premiershit).

The thing is I can make a choice not to pay for Sky, I have to by law pay towards the BBC but don't have a voice in deciding what they do and don't show.

The Football League should fight tooth and nail to have their sport on terrestrial TV to try and keep up interest in all 3 leagues and ensure that the Prem doesn't dominate more and more, even if it means taking a shorter term cut in TV revenue or offering a weekly live game from each division (and perhaps even from the BSP) to ITV or BBC. If done well many people will stop paying for Sky, will want to start going to their local league or non-league sides and will know that there is life beyond the best marketted 6-10 premier league sides.

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all they had to do was show the programme on at a time of something like 10 am on Sunday morning. Most fans I know stay out on the drink all night after the match anyway!!!!
Also, the numbers of people attending football league matches far outstrips the total watching premier league matches in the flesh, so I would say they are guaranteed a decent audience if they put it on the box on Sunday

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 Post subject: Re: BBC to axe the football league show
PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:52 pm 
The viewing figures are probably very good as invariably I like many 'watch' it twice a week. Especially if we've been at home and I've been in Millhouse all day by the time they put it on at fooking midnight I'm knocking out the zzz's 2 minutes after the start, so I have to watch it again on Sunday with my hangover.


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 Post subject: Re: BBC to axe the football league show
PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:23 pm 
poolietim wrote:
There are too many people who watch Premier League football and don't care about the Football League, to some it's like it doesn't exist, and if you want to see the goals from the FL you can watch it on Sky sports news which most people have access too on the various satelite and digital..


Ah, well, but Mr Tim, that's because it's all they're offered access to. TV audiences apart, the actual attendance figures every weekend show the converse to that. Spin offs from that are the much maligned (and rightly so) armchair fan, the young 'uns plumping for a top six team as their club and ignoring their local one, the wider media only offering anything much on the Prem and the reluctance of the FL to get off it's arse and fight the tide. Who is it that allowed clubs in Europe to join the League Cup late?? Why don't they just give them the cheque and the place in Europe??

The biggest prize game in the world is played where??


It's a rant, yes, but the FL and the FA have sold the game to Murdoch and the BBC/ITV won't or can't be arsed to promote the alternative which is FL games.


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The problem is both Match of the Day and The FL
show are long shows now, over an hour and half.

It's almost like watching a long film - i can't stand watching long films. I prefer picking and choosing matches on the website on Monday.

Also, there are probably people who complain there is too much sport on during the weekend.

The Mirror did a piece on Jeff Stelling over Christmas and he said "The Football League should be a jewel in the BBC's crown"

And now look what's happened.

The BBC has virtually very little mainstream sport now that it only shows ONE League game evry couple of months, and it always a Championship match between two large cities with a big catchment area - Southampton vs. Portsmouth for example.


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Another reason to scrap the TV License fee. Shocking decision.

The license fee is an absolute joke. There is nothing at all worth watching on BBC apart from Top Gear and Frozen Planet.


You're kidding about Top Gear, right? sctatchinghead sctatchinghead sctatchinghead

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Don't worry, it's being replaced by transgender trampolining and pro celebrity budgie wrestling.
The Premiershit is everything ... .sadly. sadx

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I can't say I'm that bothered. I'm assuming the goals will still be available online and I only ever used to watch it to see the Pools goals if I hadn't managed to get to the game. I'd only ever consider watching more of it if we'd won and I was in a good mood.


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 Post subject: Re: BBC to axe the football league show
PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 3:58 pm 
Ah, but it's not is it Mr Snowman?? They're approaching meltdown due to market saturation.

Take where I live. The Prem was free on CCTV5 as the Government had paid for it. Sky came in and demanded a sum of money that they simply refused to pay, so CCTV5 showed the Bundesliga instead. The fans now nick it off the Internet, as do we in the pub, on QQ, which is the local equivalent of MSN. No-one spotted the join and I'll bet you a pound to a pinch of poo that QQ aren't paying for it

Now this doesn't reduce the demand for the 'product,' it merely cuts off a revenue stream for Sky. The Asians are astute businessmen and they can put on all the sport they want for nowt so why should they suddenly hand over billions to someone not even connected to their culture?? They just nick it off the satellites and put it on the Internet while giggling at their audacity. Sky would have to almost completely shut down their satellite operation to regain control and in the meantime face millions of angry customers.

20% of the worlds population live here and even if just, say 1% of households bought it, Sky would be rolling in it, but if you can get it for nowt why would you pay?? They know these people have unattainable fortunes and so they wonder why they should contribute further. Thank you david Beckham, next to Lionel Messi, the most well known footballer here.

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i think sky have bought the rights back from next year, so i dont think the bbc will still show them online, skys website might like.

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Bramstein wrote:
I can't say I'm that bothered. I'm assuming the goals will still be available online and I only ever used to watch it to see the Pools goals if I hadn't managed to get to the game. I'd only ever consider watching more of it if we'd won and I was in a good mood.


You'd only be able to see the 'Pools highlights on 'Pools player I think.


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To be fair Manish and Claridge have got to be the worst double act since Thomas & Palmer turned out for England. Its only worth watching between games if Rosenior is on and the bloke from 5Live presents it.


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You know that bit in the article that says.."an insider said"

roughly translated that means we have no real evidence so we're quoting an imaginary source.

ie its probably not true

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Ah, but it's not is it Mr Snowman?? They're approaching meltdown due to market saturation.

Take where I live. The Prem was free on CCTV5 as the Government had paid for it. Sky came in and demanded a sum of money that they simply refused to pay, so CCTV5 showed the Bundesliga instead. The fans now nick it off the Internet, as do we in the pub, on QQ, which is the local equivalent of MSN. No-one spotted the join and I'll bet you a pound to a pinch of poo that QQ aren't paying for it

Now this doesn't reduce the demand for the 'product,' it merely cuts off a revenue stream for Sky. The Asians are astute businessmen and they can put on all the sport they want for nowt so why should they suddenly hand over billions to someone not even connected to their culture?? They just nick it off the satellites and put it on the Internet while giggling at their audacity. Sky would have to almost completely shut down their satellite operation to regain control and in the meantime face millions of angry customers.

20% of the worlds population live here and even if just, say 1% of households bought it, Sky would be rolling in it, but if you can get it for nowt why would you pay?? They know these people have unattainable fortunes and so they wonder why they should contribute further. Thank you david Beckham, next to Lionel Messi, the most well known footballer here.

Plums in hand as I understand the saying goes.


and that is highly pleasing - at least there are folks somewhere who don't think they've got to hand it over because they think they got to. The process of thinking it through - will it ever catch on here though?

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According to some bloke in back of Sun today BBC are likely to renew football league show contract for next year despite Sky sniffing round it. Also says they didn't show it boxing day because they contracted to only broadcasting on a Saturday but then he contradicts himself by saying BBC plans to broadcast an extra show on 2nd which is a Monday. So he could just be talking balls.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:44 pm 
i will miss it. these days iam not really interested in the premier leauge its to predictable.the trouble with the bbc they are spending millions on a new television studio in manchester just to be political correct.they care more about that than showing programes people want to watch.


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This is getting ridiculous, all this talk of axing shows people want to watch. If people were watching it then the BBC would have perhaps paid the money to renew it. Let's remember they're not dropping it because they're bored of it, I'm assuming Sky have made an offer for it and for the amount of people watching it on the Beeb on Saturday nights it's not worth paying. I do agree they should have tried it at a different time, Sunday mornings maybe as a nice hangover cure but I still don't think enough people would tune in to warrant the money needed to compete with the vastly better at showing sport ( except Snooker) machine that is Sky Sports.


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I think the beeb needs to be brought kicking and screaming into 2012...no advertising is very admirable but lets face it, it doesn't make very good economic sense. Scrap the license fee and allow advertising on BBC then money would not be a problem...would anyone stop watching the Football League show if it were brought to you by Coca Cola??

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They say no advertising but you can guarantee that before and after each programme there will be an advert for some other BBC service, whether its a radio station or another television programme


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