So, if we win the toss today, do we bat or stick them in?

bat

In their current fragile state, I'd stick 'em in.

BTW, watched Steven Finn in the C40 game last night on Sky...took 5 for 33, looked in VERY good fettle, I'd have had him on standby...

Have we ever had so many great bowlers that cant get a game?

Not having seen the pitch it's hard to judge, however if there looks to be a little bit of help early on stick them in and see how they cope. Alternatively if it looks like it'll turn later on then you might want to bowl last.

If Tremlett is out I'd stick Finn in, more of a like for like replacement to keep the balance right. Bresnan is good but I'd probably have him as reserve to Broad and / or Anderson.

Can you still bowl underarm

In theory yes, however I believe that you would struggle to get your arm past your belly.

You havin a laugh, I wouldn`t get to the wicket, the amble up would do me in

I'd be putting India in, although I have a bet on that no side will be bowled out for less than 200 in the series, so I dont want anymore dodgy starts like our 2nd innings at Lords

Bowl.

Also I'm pretty sure the thread title said no time wasters...? Monkey 'butt'....?

Butt, what an awful word. I know the yanks use it, so I'm saying its an Americanisation....up there with the worst imo.

Swear filter!!

I know and I can`t stand the yanks, however monkeyarse didn`t quite have the same ring to it

I dunno, monkey.arsehole seems about right! :wink smiley:

:wink smiley: !!!

Overcast here in the East Midlands, Trent Bridge is a swingers paradise, at least in terms of cricket!, so insert Tendulkah and co and then watch the little maestro get his 100th test century!!!

Can we lock this thread please.

Does anyone bat for the other side around here.

you asking?

My kids love Jimmy Cricket Walt Disney films,I think they waste a lot of time watching these on those rainy days.

Sounds like a dodgy LBW decision, anybody watching on TV?

23-2 dam

I slept through the first one so not sure, from what I've read it was 'marginal'.

No doubt at the second one though

Should have bowled first

India won the toss.

Ah that would explain it, I didn`t know that as my crystal ball is in for servicing and all my spare time at work is spent on here waiting to be jumped on for making an error

Yer just so im aware

We've managed to screw this up.

Shhhhhh, ripper will knack yer....

Love England's tactics, its hard batting conditions, so lets give our wickets away and get India in batting while the ball is swinging - pure genius

True, the bet was for the whole series, was hoping for a washout at Nottingham

I think England will be even better than India in these conditions, if we have 20 overs at them tonight I wouldn't be shocked if they finished 4 or 5 down. I am looking forward to watching Anderson bowl

...they will finish 80 for 0 now I've posted this.

Should have played Finn, instead of Bresnan
(that'll probably get him a 5'fer )

Hope it does but I can't agree with you. Bresnan is a pitch up swing bowler, Finn is a hit the deck bowler. Given Trent Bride since they built the new stands is a swing bowlers paradise Bresnan is a no brainer really. Plus Bresnan was superb in Australia and has earned the right to be in the side, Finn although he's had a great start to his test career is one for the future.

Agreed, Finn took a 5 for on national tele 15 hours before the Test started but that apart he hasn't really set the world alight for Middlesex recently.

Bresnan has taken far more wickets of late and was excellent in the one dayers against Sri Lanka. Given he almost replaced Broad last week it would have been a very strange decision to suddenly promote Finn head of him purely based on one game.

At least we weren't as bad as Leicestershire today.

34 all out.

how good am I ?

No

Finn needs to pitch it up more and be a bit more consistent with his line before he gets a decent run in the England team I reckon. If he was averaging around 90mph speed I could perhaps forgive him his shorter length but he's only around 85mph. Not quick enough for that sort of bowling.

But enough of that. Fantastic win for England especially when you consider the situation they found themselves in just before Broad's hattrick on Saturday.

To win so handsomely after being in such a difficult situation, against a team as good as India, is the hallmark of a truly great team.

For me, Finn was played in the build up to the Ashes series in Australia where he did OK on those hard pitches. He relies a lot on bounce, much like Harmison before him but you'd have to be a very good bowler to get into this England side at the moment. 10 of whom are good with the bat, and that's without sacrificing the bowling quality. Best side in the world at the moment and could be even better if Swann can find some of what makes him one of the best bowlers in test cricket

The next test if trott is injured then we should play five bowlers and play Prior at six, given Bresnan ability yesterday with the bat and bowling figures you cant really argue with or drop him.

I was completely staggered watching that last night. There's nowhere England aren't a threat apart from the openers.

How can an opener not reach double figures and yet a bowler can get 90 in the same innings against the same attack??

The England bowling performance was the best I've seen for 25 years.

I think it would be more accurate to describe Bresnan as an all rounder. His bowling has gone up a notch since he first played against Bangladesh. Yard or two quicker and a lot more menacing. If him and Broad can keep performing like this England will be onto a very good thing. The last time a team had two genuinely superb all rounders was South Africa, IMO, when McMillan and Kallis were in the same team.

If you need that answering you don't understand cricket, or when it's the hardest to bat in a game of Cricket. Especially Test Cricket, especially in the first hour.

New Ball?

Fresh Bowlers?

Pressure?

Moisture in a new wicket?

Early morning conditions?

The conditions when Cook and Strauss walked out on day one were hardly the same as when Bresnan made hay while the sun shined. Cook 'not a threat' apart from the last two Tests he's been a modern day Bardman for best part of a year!!

He's releasing a single to cash in. "Do the Bardman"

That's slightly direspectful towards 'The Jon'

When your worst performing bowler is Graeme Swann and your worst performing batsment is Alistair Cook you know you're having a pretty good series

I bow to all the superior knowledge I am offered. I know about footy, but I know nowt about the five day game although I find it compelling.

I need a PM exchange with the Fat Man.