So Luton have made him available at a figure reputed to be around £170k. If he was to come back to Pools on the basis of a strict regime coupled with a intensive fitness program then I reckon it would make good business sense.

Assuming that we don't get Duffy and rumours apart he is on record as saying that he prefers to go to Swansea then Boydy is at least as good as any other options. A fit Boydy playing alongside Barker would make a very formidable forward line.

On a business level 330k profit in 12 months isn't a bad deal either.

I agree that if we were to get him back it would need to be on a game-to-game contract or something. It would be too much of a risk otherwise. He will be on a good wage at Luton methinks (am I allowed to say methinks on here or is it a banned word?)

I think you should say 'methinks' as often as you can. It's fun to imagine Kev dancing with and going purple

So we are going to pay £170K, for him and then pay him on a week to week contract, methinks not

For 170k i'd snap their hands off. In fact i'd probably take him before Duffy. Come on Danny, sign him up

Methinks we should stop saying methinks for a while, like

i can't see pools paying any substantial sort of fee and then getting him to sign a game by game contract. He is only 25 afterall. It would be a great signing if we could get him, I really hope that Wilson is intersted.......

Me thinks that he would be good signing.

Me do not like players who thinks they dont wanna go to us. Me thinks at least Boyd may thinks he want to come.

Me also thinks that a gamble can pay off...

Plus he didn't really have any injury problems last season, he just wasn't getting picked.

I can't see Wilson wanting to sign him back a year after selling him though, surely his reasons are still valid and he was proven right by the season Boydy had?

Don't ask....

Would be proven right regardless...

Sold him for 500k, bought him back for 170k...Wilson would be seen as the next Del Boy.

Probably held hostage by a gang of killer cockroaches, methinks

Fair point, but i'm still not sure Wilson would want him back.

Actually I think he said he was off on holiday. Or just off.

No point wasting all this teasing if he's not here, I suppose

You can, if you stop nicking my ideas

He is bound to be on here somewhere....

I've already said

You are full of shite today?

Whats new!?

I don't know about Kev, but I have spotted Wally!!

Is Kev the one with a false beard, 'talking' to the little girl?

me thinks signing boyd is a backward step and i cant see it happening as long as DW is manager, just my opinion like. boydie was allowed to leave after scoring 29 goals in our best ever season for pools, IOR are ambitious for the club to move forward so why let boyd go in the 1st place.

i cant see him coming back, infact me personally would rather he didnt

Im afraid not, Kev is actually spying out of the toilets (have a look and you will see him!). He looks like he is 'up to no good' or possibly waiting for someone (George Michael possibly?)

hes had him

1 season wonder,slow,lacks strength,has a few tricks up his sleeve,div 2 is his level.We`d be mad to take him back.

I love this board.

Were going forward not backwards.

But if Steve Howard came knocking, would you turn him down?

I've had time to think about this...

I'll be blunt, I liked Duffy but I am disappointed by Swansea’s chairman’s comments about him not wanting to come to us, and would only choose us if he had no choice in the matter. That hurt a tad...in fact it pissed me off. For that reason I’d rather us sign Boyd than a player that doesn’t want to play for us.

We were deciding whether to sign Danny Graham based on the Duffy situation…he joined Carlisle. We missed out.

So two top strikers have gone…

Boyd was one of our key players in a play-off final run, he banged in 29 goals. If another striker who hadn’t played for us had banged in 29 goals 3 seasons ago in League 1, would we be happy if we signed him? We need Wilson to do a Cooper and discipline him. Cooper has his cane, Wilson has a whip.

If we sign a better striker than Boyd then so be it. But can anybody think of decent strikers realistically available as good as Boyd?

Having said that…I’ve got faith in young Foley and Brown. Mackay could be a gem. So I won’t be reaching out for the anti-depressants if we didn’t sign a striker.

To start with I'm not sure Wilson had that much of a say in keeping Boyd so I wouldn't exclude his taking him back. But could he do a Cooper on him?

Only Cooper got the best out of Boydy.
He bullied him into it.
He got at least a couple of public dressing downs from Cooper, especially on the weight issue while he was on loan to Boston.
Then once Cooper was convinced he had brought him into line he told him he was going to play in every game for the rest of the season - and he went on to score over 40 goals in a season and a quarter.

Do we have any examples of Wilson turning a player's career round like that?
Because Boydy's going to need it again now Scott and Newell have undone all Cooper's work.

I think (or should that be methinks) that we have to admit defeat on getting Duffy so we need to turn our gaze elsewhere for a goalscorer. Although I haven't been keen on the idea up until now I think we should consider getting Boydy back.

As someone has already argued we would be getting a player back for less than a third of the amount we paid for him. Although he has always been a difficult player to motivate he would presumably think he had something to prove if he came back. So, it looks like good business to me.

Wilson turned 11 players around at Accrington so I think he can do it.

Still a gamble mind you, Cooper did work his knackers off with Boyd.

very good point and what would he have to moan about he would be back home so homesickness is out and if we control him going down the town and get him fit he would easily do well in this league dont forget when he did bang all those goals in did he didnt have a target man to reap the rewards off no, now we have barker in my opinion one of the best at holding the ball up and nocking it down for runners in this division, it just showed what we were missing last season a person who has a bit of brains to bring the midfield into attack, and talk about buisness getting him for next to nothing after selling daily.

although i would like to see mackay do well this season it makes sence to bring boydy back

Instead, he had a fully fit Joel Porter. A bloke who ran himselft into the ground, always wanted the ball, also scored goals and was fantastic at making space for himself and others. They were a partnership.

He's the bloke I want back fully fit and motivated, make no mistake about it.

If he gets back to full fitness, he won't be able to ignore him!

Didn't we also say the same about RH; Wilson didn't rate him, didn't want him etc. A short trip to Port Vale and he became (again) undroppable.

How many 'last chance saloons' do you put Boydy in.
One was his loan to Boston, which worked, not sure it would work again.
Then there was his building site escapade, which could have seen him 'moved on'.

Can we afford to blow £170K on a gamble

unfortunately with Boyd, you're not just getting a talented player. You are getting a bloke who is not at all bright and who just can't/doesn't seem to learn (or want to learn) the lesson that he is a high profile pro footballer, and needs to behave as such at all times . THAT'S the problem!!!
There's the rest of his life after retirement to get pi$$ed etc round town, and upsetting local car dealers' offspring.

Anyhow...having said all this, what are our chances of signing him?

I must say I am in agreement with you Timmy. I can't say I've been a fan of his. Yeah, I admit he's got skill with the ball but think he can be quite lazy and waits for the ball to come to him rather than fighting for it and trying. Just my opinion of course.

I'm with ADG and Chip on this one. I admit Boydy isn't always the model professional, but when he was on top of his game a few years ago he was awesome. Defenders didn't know how to play him.

I had my doubts about getting him back but if we can get him for 170k then it's well worth the gamble. I think he would love to come back here and I'm pretty sure he would be determined to prove a point if he did come back..

personally I'd be amazed if Pools re-signed him. DW has stated he thinks it would be a backwards step to bring him here. I don't see the point of speculating about it any longer, unless he's had a dramatic change of mind.

Sorry, Lazy was harsh. I didn't mean to offend anyone, I've just never been a fan of his. However, I did say that he was a very skillful player. I'm not denying that.

One key issue is whether he ever recovered from the knee injury/infection that kept him out for most of a season. The medical staff at Pools probably know more than most having nursed him through the problem. They may have a view as to whether he can ever return to the free scoring form. I always thought that the uncertainty over his knee was a factor in his sale to Luton. We took the money when we had the option. We didn't take the money for Dimi for example and were prepared to let him walk at the end of the season.

If Boydy is ok physically I would have thought the shock of his time at Luton plus strong management from Danny could make him a force again. At the right price he is worth the risk and we are better placed than most to assess that risk.

I point you to my discussion on Porter. Sometimes it's about wanting the ball and being prepared to work a little harder to get it. I'm not talking about chasing lost causes, but about moving 10 yards with purpose to make yourself available, and then busting a gut to make sure you get back to the danger areas if it doesn't come. Boyd, sometimes, had the tendency to not do these simple things. Fine when you're making wonder goals, not when it's not going your way.

Porter is the main man for me also, a very clever player.
I like the way he watches the defender tracking him, rather than where the ball is. He then shakes off the defender when the defender inevitably thinks Porter isn't going to make a burst for it - so when he does make a burst forward he is available to receive the ball, but the defender has lost him. Look at the move away to Wycombe after he first came on as sub, that's what Porter's all about.

Stewart didn't do badly for Yeovil last season and he has an 's' in his name, two of the fookers in fact

I don't see it happening and I aint losing any sleep over it.

i remember that he created a lot of chances from corners running at the near post and turning then flicking it into the box on his day he just stood out from the rest in that division he always seem to have time and be two seconds ahead from everyone else, why run around when realisitically you dont have to if you have a bit of skill and brains do you see teddy sherringham running around like a headless chicken no

The female supporters would like Boyd back too I reckon. Not that we care about them like, we wont have their sort round 'ere!

Well I am totally with ADG on this one. Boydy certainly never had natural pace but I never thought he was a lazy player, in fact I think he always showed for the ball and wanted it to him. However he is one of those players that has a lethargic, as opposed to a busy style to his play, which the blinkered defined as lazy as opposed to deceptive. I think Pool's fans expectations on him were higher than other players as well, I remember a game against Chesterfield when general consensus was that Boydy had been shite, lazy etc. Spoke to some of their fans after the game who all raved about how awesome he was.

In my memory (early 80's onwards watching Pools) when he was fully fit he was awesome and probably the best player we have ever had (29 goals and most assists in the division in Pool's most successful season ever). For 18 months I used to look forward to watching him play for the damage he could do to the opposition.

However, a big BUT, I agree with Splod in terms of his knee injury. If he can't physically get fit or mentally apply himself then he will be no good for us. Stories/rumours about his comments don't suggest great intellect or understanding of the need to apply hard work to your talent consistently. I worry it could be a disaster with many ready to turn on him quickly.

one season he scored 29 goals, yes and i/we will never forget it but he could of being doing that for a few years previously boydy has had too many chances IMO...

chip are you obsessed with boydy

why sign marcus stewart? where has this been reported i thought that was the whole reason for stewart going back to the south west to be back to his roots.