Utter disgrace

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/6326513.stm

Was it ever that bad here in the 80's? not that I remember. I bet they don't get a five year ban from European football though.

Not a UEFA competition - but I get your point. Even if it was, UEFA would do no more than hand out a couple of nominal £500 fines as usual - they'll never ban a 'major' country's teams again like they did after Heysel (even England's) simply because they'd lose too much TV revenue.

They didn't even kick Feyenoord out of the UEFA Cup this season at first - it was only because someone at UEFA appealed against the suspended two match stadium ban because it was too lenient.

it has always been the same in Italian football
you only have to look at the players especially when they are losing
sadly cheats nearly always come out on top

Catania club executive Pietro Lo Monaco reacted to news of the officer's death by announcing he would leave football.

"I've heard that a policeman has died," he said. "To speak of football right now seems useless. For me this is the end. I will leave the football world. I don't recognise myself in this world anymore. I have loved football intensely but after this right now it seems absurd."

At last someone who understands that football is NOT a matter of life and death.

There are any number of improvements that could be made to this world for which I would sacrifice football right this very moment if that was the price.

I take your point but people are a bit more selfish. Lets put that to the vote;


Here's your choice: Pools to win the league this year and an Italian copper dies or does the guy live and we stay in div 4.

Your votes please gentlemen.

garbage

Cheap shot John

FFS, your talking about a mans life

I wasn't suggesting an answer one way or the other. I was throwing it up for comment, no more than that.

you may as well say solve global starvation or promotion!

pointless






[promotion btw ]

Ok, maybe I was somewhat ham fisted but I suspect there's a point in what I said.

Pools up - it was his time to go - choices had been pre-determined by too many people for anything other than for fate to take a hand.

This riot was more than about football - it's a sicilian thing too and the vendetta principle and the cosa nostra principles inherent on that island - family against family, village against village and so on - only one thing that they have in common is a dislike of all authority - hence the bomb attack was made against the unfortunate copper rather than an opposing fan (despite 100+ being injured) - the fans in sicily (and italy) have way too much ferkin power at the clubs but the clubs are so desperate for their support as if they didnt give them the power they would boycott en masse.

a shame but why should the football stop - it was purely an excuse for the mass riot - we've seen events held in this country that have turned into orchestrated riots for decades - italy is no expection.......

welcome to the board.
Pools promoted versus a guy's life? What a stupid question. Pools can wait.
Anyone who would sacrifice a human life for football has lost all sense of proportion.

It seems some people value a dog's life more than a human's -- providing they know the dog and not the human, right right right?

How the hell was it 'his time to go', does that count for a kid who gets ran over tonight?

Utter tosh

Bollox - my point was that the trouble in sicily used football as an excuse to have a riot between two areas with longstanding issues - they were prepared for more than a fookin bar room brawl...

Yes it's shit and a shame that he got killed but what the fook does a man getting killed 2500 miles away have anything to do with Pools??

I ain't sacrificed a life or even suggested it- things happen for reasons not because of coincidence or football - the event that will see a 'child ran over' will be down to several thousand thoughts and actions during the course of a day.

life's shit and life's too short - doesn't matter how long it lasts but when your number is up, your number is fookin up.

people value what is dear to them - be it the italian's family, the ran over child's parents, the dog owner - a vendetta crazed sicilian youth with a home made bomb in his hand with a fanatical hatred of the rival clan and the authority. These two cities have had rivalry with each other for centuries and for various reasons and the most important meeting to between the two cities on the pitch was soured by the violent underbelly of both areas.

Fook me if we were to be so concerned about every single death in the world then nothing would get done.

peace on earth and goodwill to all men.

I'm with Katcha on this one, how can football be used in an argument in this way????? Football, as any international sport, is one of the greatest vehicles for bringing people together all over the world. It helps more people to come together and meet each other, who maybe otherwise would have stayed away from one another with all the prejudice and suspicions that entails. It does FAR more good than harm. Maybe the question directly relating a death to Pools' fortunes was misconceived, but the argument to say, "No football to guarantee certain individual situations are reversed," is pure FOLLY.
It was a covenient opportunity for warring factions to have a go, nothing to do with football.
There wasn't much of an effort made to ban that Turkish football team (Fenerbahce?) after the killing of two Leeds fans (which should have occurred in that instance), but the talk of banning of football itself is nonsense

cheers M