During the second half someone at the bac went to the steps to take a photo,when I looked round there was a guy & a bewer holding a St Georges flag with Hartlepool United in one corner & EDL in another.
Did anyone else see this ?
They proved how crap they are in the way they brought their flag yet only got it out for a photo & put it away again.
Pathetic !!!

the flag was actually at the front of the seats and fred the female steward removed it and gave it back to the group who stood up.
must admit i was a bit disapointed at some of the people who were amongst that group including at least 1 member of this board

Name and shame him mr bus!

What he said.

i will let him have 24 hours to come on and justify his position then i may just have to out him

Fair play to them, this country would be royally knackered though if it wasn't for the EDL's great work in combatting Islam extremism.

It wasnt me! I was at the National Socialists meeting in Berlin.

Don't know if Mr Bus is referring to me..? ....as I certainly wasn't posing for any photographs with the flag (nor would I), wasn't chanting 'EDL' or with the group that were stood near the front (who didn't actually take the flag in). I did go to collect the flag when it was removed from behind the goal about half way through the first half because it belonged to someone in the group I was with and I just happened to be the closest as I was stood on the aisle.

The lass steward was just going to chuck the flag (some may believe fair enough) but she couldn't explain to the people that challenged her how or why it was offensive. If anything more commotion was caused from removing the flag than if it had of been left and collected after the game.

As for my own viewpoint I don't support the EDL, UAF, BNP or any any other movement. I do believe in free speech as long as it isn't being deliberatly provocative, offensive or racist. I don't believe the flag caused any harm but maybe others disagree..?

Well I think it already is royally knackered Fact!

no i wasnt aware that was you, it was another bunker member i was referring to.and i merely pointed out that the other member was stood with the group chanting. not getting his photo took with flag

I was stood with a couple of lads in the second half one of whom from time to time shouted EE EDL.
I've known the lad a good few years and apart from his views on immigration is a decent enough man.
Me and my mate thought at first it was a protest at energy bills going up:)
Oh and chip, what's wrong with fooooking Barbour jackets!
Had mine a few years but it is unfortunate all the chavs are starting to wear them now:)

Oi Bus if it is you are referring to you need to remove the hairs from your ears.
Me and my pal were singing EE EDF in a pisstake against a chap standing with us singing EDL.
Still, each to their own I say.
Im not surprised to see the influx of people jumping on the bandwagon considering the state the country is getting into.

One of the reasons this fellow only got into power was the state his country was in



http://www.independent.co.uk/news/scien ... 70927.html

Interesting article about the how the brain effect how you vote although I doubt extremists of right or left have any brains at all!

Hitler - decent enough bloke actually, apart from his views on immigration.
Still each to their own, you've got to laugh etc etc.

Haha well aye, 2 years ago you'd only see a farmer wearing one, 6 months ago the fashion and chav world decided they were in now everyone has one.

I think there awful.

Well I go to the Barbers at the fens and he never has a jacket on

I agree the padded type are.
Every man and his dog has one.
Mines going on eBay as we speak:)

From what I've seen of them these EDL lot are invariably thick as shit and attract the worse kind of louts. There are some real issues with immigration but a bunch of thugs shouting and screaming uneducated nonsense is counter productive.

The thing is if you can't spot a copy from a real one then more fool them! Don't think we would wear a copy at all Ralf! As for ebay ain't everything on there nearly copies these days!!

Mind we could all shop in River Island and Burtons and all walk round in the same stuff aswell!

Think we should all dress up as Hangus and go to the games, run on the pitch, how would they know the real one, confuse the hell outta the stewards, he has a stig aura and nobody knows what he looks like except for his wife cos she cuts.... oops nearly let it slip!

So you dont believe an EDL flag is racist

Although I don't agree with the EDL in general, what makes their flag racist?

Does it have death to all muslims painted on it or something?

Because the EDL are a racist organisation & their flag represents them ?

You've answered with a question and I'm not sure. I don't know enough about them to decide if they're a racist organisation or not. I just don't see how a flag can be racist unless it has something outwardly offensive or provocative on it.

I suppose you dont know why all the Jewish get upset about this flag either,its not as if it says kill all jews on it.

Cord pillow cases are making headlines

exactly. flags, banners, chants, symbols, can all be offensive because of what the represent. The EDL seem to me to consist of brainless idiots who cant expand their minds to contemplate the issues their actually arguing about. In fact i hope hartlepool attract more new fans from different race and religion. In my opinion, if one of my friends, hartlepool supporter or not was involved or supporting racist organisation i would not only be embarrassed to be seen with them at a game, i wouldnt want to see them much at all.

I'm not trying to get at you neither do I support the EDL in any way shape or form. I was just curious to how it was racist.

As a practising Hindu I have that symbol all over my house.

EDL has no place in football - when I said this at the match I got a lecture in EDL protocol - maybe they should carry leaflets!!

These were mainly a group of young lads who had been drinking since 9am - and came and stood in front of people as they wanted to create an atmosphere - they did - a negative one. Many people moved away from them as views were blocked.

The lads at the back had been great - these muppets took away from that by chanting against or out of time with them at the back.

You can hardly compare the EDL flag with a Swatsika!!
As someone has said it's only a flag and if they want to show it at the matches then fair play, it certainly doesn't offend me.
It's a foooking free country.
Anyway, I go to watch the football not some flag which has no relevance to the day out I'm having.
I don't know why people are getting so upset about it !!

I don't see what all the fuss is about either. The flag had EDL wrote in the corner - whoopy do. I doubt a single person on here would of known or mentioned it if the flag hadn't of been taken down (by someone who didn't even know what they were on about). I don't understand how anyone could consider it to be racist..?

I would like to be enlightened as to how it is...?

Oi Tree i simply said you( well i didnt say you) were stood with the group. not that you were chanting. although i first thought it was a group of energy supplies employees having no idea who the edl were/are

I was only stood with one, not with the group at the back.
Mind, the lad in question has been going to pools home and away as long as I have!! I didn't even know he was into the EDL but he has changed his political views that many times he will probably be a Jehovas Witness next week!!!

No objection to Flag from me - but the chanting would have been more constructive supporting the team (as it was a football match), and having one of them trying to inform me of the group when I'm watching the match is something I can do without - as he was told!

I didn't even notice any chanting.

I'd just ignore it, at least it's a change from the equally irrelevant 'No surrender to the IRA'. I'm sure the kids in question will grow out of it.

I personally don't like the way these kids take the piss of stewards at every away game, these are just people trying to earn a few extra quid. They don't deserve to be belittled by pissed up adolescent lads who've probably never had a job themselves. I don't understand why they just wouldn't rather watch the game and get behind the team, which in the main they did very well on Boxing Day.

I was just a bit pissed off I couldn't see the female steward they were chanting 'Susan Boyle' at, I can't promise that I wouldn't have laughed if she looked like her!!

Not defending them but a few chants and a 3x3 flag cant be compared to an organisation which murdered millions.

The EDL, BNP etc are obviously not the answer, it's upto the present government to curb immigration and the sooner better in many peoples eyes.

Id hate to be a steward. For fooooking £15 a game its just not worth it especially when you have pissed up thugs like Leeds coming to town.

You've got to be a bit careful generalising with emblems. I have to say this ancient Hindu sign shocked me a bit when I first seen it.

Do we know anyone on here?

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=lf# ... 7898295310

I know 4 people on there

Me too.

aye a few faces and names in there recognised

All Pools supporters who have been going quite a few years :)

before the edl was founded shock horror - up to them what they do, up to the police to police it at end of day

So youre happy with racist organisations as long as they dont disturb you ?

just bought a diary fball - fancy it monday?