Sounds like I missed a soaking and a shit match Mr Lightning?

Awful second half.
Well beaten.
That's 3 homes games and one scored and that was a foooking penalty.
We need to shape up at home or next seasons season tickets will be lucky to be sold for a tenner!!

Well win Saturday ...

got to take that one on the chin... they are better than us. Don't know what's happened to them for them to turn round and become so good in such a short space of time. They have been crap for about 4 seasons, but they looked streets ahead of Pools tonight. Our best players were out there, but sadly they don't appear to be good enough.
Mid table at best, just got to try and enjoy the wins like we did on Saturday

On the plus side, we were superb for about 25 minutes, had a very good first half, then we conceded a scrappy goal and everyones heads went down. The defence let us down today, give 'em a kick up the arse in training and everything'll be rosy again.

Two players I thought would stand out tonight Luscombe and Poole failed miserably.
Dont get me started on the foooking defence!

they are still two of the best we have got - who else could we put in to make things happen in an attacking sense?> Humphreys? Sweeney? That would only have made it worse!!!

And how often are there going to be games like Rochdale and Chesterfield.
Our home form is abysmal, there is no plan b when we go behind and the players and the manager have really let us down tonight.
We didn't compete second half, stood off the ball and watched while Tranmere played football.
Shocking defeatist attitude by the team and it's all becoming too common at home this season.

We missed Sweeney in the middle tonight, Luscombe is not a winger and he's got a lot to do to prove he's capable of holding down a first team place.

As for Poole. He looks lost at home.
Easily gets marked out of the game, obviously has it a lot better away when he's got more space to run at defenders.

Because Wadsworth has to crowbar Wright in somehow, although he's looked shit the last few times I've seen him he was big a while ago, so he should be the first name on the teamsheet, apparently. Austin, Collins, Hartley and Horwood were too good to drop up until the last few weeks.

They'll know how shit they were, with any look it'll motivate them on saturday. If it doesn't I might have to swear at a few more twats for leaving early.

Problem is playing players out of position, Monkhouse isnt a striker, Horwood is a left back not a left winger, and Wright isnt a left back, he is a centre back.

First half we played very well, second half we were awful. Poole for 45 minutes was outstanding with his touch and positioning but second half was no were near what he was in the first. Luscombe was dissapointong.

It's hard to pick a best player but based on the time he was on the pitch I'd say Murray.

We were better first half, they were better second. We never capitalised, they did. Sums it up for me.

I thought when Murray went off the midfield lost it.
If I was going to pick a man of the match he'd have got it.

Sweeney is anonymous in a 4 man midfield - he never touches the ball. At least Luscombe gets involved and tries to make things happen. How you think we missed Sweeney I do not know. Sweeney would have touched it maybe 5 times in a 4-4-2 formation like he always does. Get real man!!!

Don't know what all this love affair with Luscombe is, he's done foook all for me.
He's got a long way to go before he becomes even half the player Sweeney is.

although ive said, i wouldnt have gave Brown another deal, if we can get him anywhere near top form on the right wing, get Luscombe in the middle in front of Liddle, and get our defensive problems sorted out, then we can still be a force this season. For the first 25 minutes we were superb. Dont be too downhearted Poolies. Slowly, its coming together. We'll beat Charlton on Saturday. Im sure of it.

I thought Poole was our best player first half like. The one plus point. Ten times better than Nish or Boyd

he has got a lot to prove - but likewise I don't see why you love Sweeney so much in a 4 man midfield!!!! Watch him next time he plays in a 4-4-2!!!!

Nish didn't play.
Boyd hardly had a chance due to the ball being 50 foooking foot in the air.
I'd be very tempted to bring Nish and Boyd back in for Saturday.

You're guaranteed to get 90 minutes graft out of Sweeney.
If we'd had gotten that from even 3 or 4 of our players tonight we might have got something from the game.

Boyd and Nish back! We may as well just give Charlton the three points via postal order.

Some shots on target would have been nice. Their keeper had practically nothing to do. A wet surface like that gives the ideal opportunity for a few low long range shots. At least test the keeper.

The second half was utter garbage.

At least Wadsworth chucked some forwards on and went for it. it was 4-2-4 for a large part of the second half. Unfortunately, we are shit scared to shoot

Again we came up short against a well organised team.
We didnt have that 1 player who could give us a little bit extra when we needed it, unlike Akins for Tranmere who looked real quality.
We looked good and sharp 1st half though, shame their keeper pulled off a blinding save from Luscombe.

[quote="Chip Fireball"]I've yet to see Luscombe perform for more than 30 minutes without looking like he has run a marathon. Reminds me a bit of Alan Power, and its not hard to see wht Dibble rated them both so highly, as like him they are technically good but unable to play a full game.

The obvious solution would surely be to play Murray for an hour then replace him for the last thirty with Luscombe ?[/

so how on earth does Liddle deserve a place in the side then? Our centre midfield is slow and pedestrian and obvious. Luscombe was superb for the first thirty minutes and was poor in the second half like every other Pools player. Likeing him to Alan Power is ridiculous. He's the most talented midfielder we have at the club. Murray never ever makes things happen in the last third. We have a poor midfield. Its obvious, and we are being found out. Im sick of Wadsworth picking Murray and Liddle in the midfield just to win the ball and play defensive. Its costing us now.

opinions are always going to differ after a defeat. I've got mine, and I'm sticking with it!!!

Flinders
Austin Collins Hartley Horwood.

Brown Sweeney Luscombe Monkhouse

Poole ( Big nasty Loan player )


That's my team. And im sticking to it too...

I think I'll go along with that. We should have scored after 30 seconds tonight. Dunno who it was from my view in the town end (maybe I should utilise that prescription I have for some glasses) but if it had been hit low into the corner, rather than straight at the keeper, it would have been 1-0.

We aren't taking our chances. Even the goal mouth scramble in the second half resulted in their keeper not making a save as the ball ended up being hit straight at the defender.

Utter garbage tonight, murray needs a rest along with liddle
both kept giving the ball away. Very disappointing considering the league is so tight. We need a shake up for saturday and i would like to see a loan player brought in either in midfield or at the back we are just too slow.

It was Luscombe, he fookin rinsed it and the keeper made a fantastic save. it was far from hit "straight" at him.

should have gone to vision express, or summat

Nah, we weren't utter garbage like, not in the 1st half anyway.

Sweeney needs to be back in the team full stop! He's a midfielder who SCORES goals and gives 100% every game.

My prescription is from tesco's It also ill behoves someone who reckons monkhouse "won no headers at all" against Wycombe to recommend an opticians to anyone

Still, had luscombe hit it lower towards the corner the keeper wouldn't have stood a chance.

Balls to it. We'll just have to beat Charlton on Saturday.

Great for half an hour. Poole was a threat in first half and Luscombe did well for 30 mins. Shape of team looked disjointed. Agree with earlier posts about players out of position. Wright is not a left back. Austin was very poor tonight. We had little width and didn't shoot when we should have done on a greasy surface. Brown still doesn't look match fit. Not many postives really. We'll have to be strong to bounce back on Saturday.

From the Town End it looked like it went straight at the keeper at head height.

For what its worth It thought we seemed a team devoid of ideas for much of the game.

We see teams come to the Vic with a game plan and every player knows their job. Tonight Tranmere seemed to hit the channels and overload the area the ball landed in and work it from there. If that failed they just hit Akins who hugged the touch line and was always their get out ball.

We seem to just have 11 players who are sent out with no real plan. No great movement off the ball and no one showing for the player in possession which leads to that player (usually the full back) having to knock it long. Tranmere looked a strong and athletic team who pressed us all over the pitch and broke well. We dont have those sort of players so i would expect us to pass it about short and sharp but as no one seems to want to make a angle for a pass or a run to create space we end up just hoofing it.

Away from home being tight and getting teams on the break works but at home we need to be more creative and less rigid. We started the game like this and it looked promising but it wasn't long till we gave up on that and back to route one.

When I first got the team on me phone I thought jackpot 4-4-2 same players what played Saturday. Then kickoff, and we go to a 3-5-2 what didn't work vs Wycombe. People were saying to me we were the better side 1st half but I never seen that. We were 2 sides scrapping it out in what I thought was a 50/50 game. 2nd half we never turned up from the word off. MW needs to find his best very soon or we will slide down that table. Luscombe did nothing for me today, Liddle done nothing, who is our best centre pairing. Micks got a tough job on his hands finding players who can play together and the sooner the better.

Poole looked great in the first half but must have downed 3 pints and a foot long at half time.
Luscombe seemed good for 30-40 minutes then went missing and he isn't a winger.
Liddle and Murray are too similar but the choice would be the fit one or the decent one.
Monkhouse isn't a striker and is too petualnt to play with a partner.
Wright seems lost at LB.
Hartley and Collins would struggle to win a primary school egg and spoon race with their lack of pace, as would most of our other players.
We seem to be playing teams that are stronger, fitter, taller, and better at making the most of any opportunity to exploit the crapness of league one officials, on almost a weekly basis.
I got wet.
Far too many morons seem to have no idea who half of our players are.
I'm pissed off at the amount of £100 season ticket holders stand and text, chat about anything but the game, and seem to stand in a new place every game.
We don't have a plan B, we are second to most balls, we don't react quickly enough at set pieces or in fact to any loose ball situation.
Evan Horwood could save 10 minutes per game on average by not taking corners and just handing the ball to the keeper.
We don't have a goal poacher who can score from 6 yards, or fall over at the right time in the box.
Our players almost always shoot when they should cross, and cross when everyone else expects them to shoot.
Ritchie Humphreys.
Thatcher.
Tony Blair.
Gordon Brown.
The Mail.
The Daily Mail.
The Council won't sell Ken the ground.
I saw Chris Turner walking the dog last week.
I didn't have any half time chips.
I have to be up at 6.

I thought it was Monkhouse and don't have a prescription.

I do know that it wasn't a bad effort and the keeper did well to keep it out of the net.

I thought we played really well for the first half hour. Good movement, Monkey holding it up well and Poole looking dangerous. We need to be more ruthless in the final third though, Liddles shot was a tad embarrassing and in the second half Luscombe had a similar opportunity to shoot but chipped the ball across instead.

We seemed to lose any battle, shape or idea when Murray went off. Luscombe seemed to be getting caught dawdling on the ball everytime he got a pass and Liddles form has taken a massive dip.

The distribution from Flinders and the defence in the second half was woeful, hopeful long balls..... We looked solid a month back, now we look like we are going to concede every time the other team attack....

Although Tranmere were a very good team - we need to be showing more bite and will to win than that....

Totally agree,plus our attacks are so slow.

I wouldn't argue with that Mr Parmo except that there have been quite a few occasions when one or two of Sweeney's five touches have ended up in the back of the net.

Bit harsh considering he equalised on Saturday??

Doesn't he also have several assists to his name?

He is a winger, a left winger!

But at no stage last night did Luscombe play on the wing or wide, we didn't play with wingers until the 60th minute, Luscombe was more central than Liddle most of the time.

I still have no idea what formation we played. I think it was meant to be a 'diamond' in midfield;

....................................Murray.......................................
........................Liddle.................Horwood.....................
..................................Luscombe....................................


So that's three home game in a row with a different formation and three defeats.


I don't know whether it was tiredness but Luscombe was a liability in the centre of a 4-4-2 as well in the last half an hour, daft risks in wrong areas and poor decision making. He has ability but plenty of rough edges as well.

Agree whoever said we need a big centre forward, Steve Howard basically, getting on the phone Micky

Against a team like Tranmere who came for 0-0 first and anything else was a bonus I don't see what Murray gives us at home. He might be suited to Saturdays game more but I thought he was poor again last night, he gets caught on the ball a lot lately.

Mind Liddle is doing nothing lately either.

It's the same game whether we are playing it home or away, Murray does the same job whether it be home or away. He wins the ball, tackles hard, passes simple and generally retains the ball for the team. When he is on the pitch the team usually play better football. All in all I think he stops us being a powderpuff outfit... A very good footballer and he had a good game last night......

We have lost the last 3 home games and its not rocket science as to why.

When you look at our starting 11, we look like we are set up for an away game. Tranmere and Wycombe were there for the taking. But we are so bloody defensively minded we give the initative away.

OK, against Tranmere we played well for 45 minutes, butt clearly at half time, their manager sorted them out, and realised we were there to be attacked, and exposed.

I cant be the only one who saw Monkhouse constantly getting wide to recieve the ball, and then getting in crosses, aiming for the big striker that should be there......himself.

I cant be the only one that can see Austin is a right back and not a wing back, and needs a player in front of him, so that he can do his defensive duties better?

Horwood is not a midfielder in a million years. Wright isnt a left back.

You dont play with 2 defensive midfielders at home to average opposition. Not in the system we had.......if anyone can actually understand our system.

And for MW to admit again that he set the team up "lob-sided, to counter their midfield" again just does my head in.

Mick we went on a 9 game unbeaten run with a balanced side for 7 of them. Have you had a labotomy since then?

Just looked at the league table

We must be set up too defensively at home. We have a home record that has us in the bottom 4, but an away record that would get us promoted. Only 7 goals scored at home as well tells its own story.

I agree the formation is wrong but however we play Murray should be in the team, as shown on Tuesday night when he went off we lost the midfeld battle and couldn't gain any quality posesssion ......