Did anyone just hear his rant saying Turner worked with one hand behind his back. he also suggested that the Club crawl on hands and knees to get Russ green back.

Yep. Stelling has a history of talking shite about Pools and this is further proof he doesn't know much IMO.

He's not wrong about Russ Green.

It might be his free tickets for the odd game he goes to have gone with them 2.
Lightningtree will tell you he is no supporter he is never at games.

I wouldn't know Kev, I don't sit with the prawn sandwich brigade unlike urself last saturday:)

FFS now it's "Stelling out"! Not long ago people said he should be given freedom og Hartlepool.

I like Jeff Stelling, he's a brilliant presenter, does a great job of promoting Hartlepool and is a top bloke.

I still take most things he says about Pools with a pinch of salt though.

Who is shouting for his job like? friggin drama queen.

Maybe he should just keep quiet unless he knows something we don't.

Yeah great - and not give Pools all the national coverage he does which most other clubs would be very envious of.

Brilliant!

Agreed, harsh words but very true.

Is Jeffs rant on youtube anywhere cos i missed it.

Sparrows are quite clever birds.

Yes, but they know nothing about sweeper systems and man to man marking...

Dont be so sure, they should not be underestimated....

But didn't you or your alter ego want CT to be kept on the other day?

If you mean me then for about the 50th time, i have no problem with CT being at the club just nowhere near the managers office or training ground and i would be happy, no one can doubt he loves the club and was always good having him interact with fans etc

But as chip said, he is gone, its over so lets move on.

Exactly, move on, but if he was here, even in the background, he was and would be poking his nose in 1st team affairs, as far as I could see

CT, nice bloke, but can't manage to save his life and the abuse he got on here, including people wishing him dead was OTT IMHO, ht.t and so forth

I concur

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y1dQtvbOJg

His comments about Turner are utterly ridiculous. As for the commentator's assertion that its been a miserable week for Hartlepool..... I'll let you form your own opinions!

You're still a legend though, Jeff

What matter most to footy supporters is the results.
We are unbeaten & have scored twice in each of our last 3 games.

Dunno about anyone else,but my weeks not bin miserable

Have to say I don't understand that bit of your post Chip.

I never lost my football club, we were having bad times, and I won't say it had nothing to do with the manager, it had.

But it was still my football club. The only people who had "lost" their football club, were those who deserted it, those who instead of fighting for it, instead of supporting it, used any excuse they could come come up not to attend games.

As you, me and many more have said, it's our team it's in our blood, you don't turn your back on it simply because you don't want a certain person, regardless of who it is, in a position there. You make sure it carries on.

Some will gloat in the fact that Turner is no longer manager, some will be pleased he's gone, I am, but I never stopped wanting him to prove me wrong, for me to be right we had to fail, many wanted that,(far to many in my opinion). They wanted Pools to fail just so Turner would leave, I wanted the opposite I wanted to be wrong.

I now wait to see the attendances for the Exeter, Walsall and Carlisle games in September, for those who said they will return when Turner goes to actually stick to their words. I won't hold my breathe though.

Come on Bob, CT made some surreal decisions tactically and nonsense decisions in terms of signings. Its a good thing that he isn't in charge of team affairs. Do you really think that results like yesterday will have happened without Wadworth's involvement?

Whatever the ins and outs of the internal politics they're done. And Ken Hodcroft has even started to talk to people. In that interview in the Mail he even sounded human.

So this week has brought two things: A change in team management and better communication from the Chairman.

Thats a hell of a result surely.

I understand his hand was forced over the signing of Bjornsson.

No I agree with you I wanted Turner out of the Manager's chair. I was in that camp from the 15th Dec 2008. I didn't think his record was good enough to be our manager.

The point I was trying to make is Chip said we had our Football team back, having re read what he put since my first reply I can see what he now means along with your post.

But my point is to get your football team (or anything back) you have to have "lost" it or "give" it up. I never did either.

But yes the events off the past week means the club is hopefully going to be closer to the fans.

Is that an African Swallow?

I didn't hear the rant.

I do work out of town, and when talking about football loads of people know of Hartlepool cos of Jeff Stelling.

If he was mates with Turner and Green then it's maybe understandable for him to be a bit peeved that they've gone. Probably not the best to moan about it on telly though.

it's his opinion, he is allowed it.

He is very pro 'the club', a bit surprised he's actually ranted about them leaving.

Well I knew not everyone would agree about Chris Turner, but lets get real shall we ?

When (if) the truth comes out about the take-over at the club, then you'll all be up in arms. Why do you think Russ quit ? Months of work that he put into getting a deal went down the drain when he was shafted.
Now there's no money and will be no money so which direction exactly does everyone think we are heading in ?
He is (or was) the best Chief Exec in the lower divisions. He worked his bollocks off for the club.

As far as Turner goes - yeh, he made mistakes. But not all the signings were even his. And look at the money he was given this summer. Christ they didn't even want to pay Yantorno's airfare !

I was just as pleased as anyone when Monkey scored yesterday by the way whatever some people think.

And Yes,most of you do know more than me about what goes on on the pitch - You see them and I don't. I could easily have kept my big mouth shut. But I wanted to say something in defence of a good bloke in Russ Green.

You're entitled to have your opinion about me too. I'm a big grown up bloke and I can take it. But those of you say I'm full of myself, don't have a clue.

Agreed. It is probably the case that his comments are wholly driven by sentiment. But as Chip has pointed out he hasn't had to sit through umpteen games in which Turner's decisions have cost us games. But, as he said, he is entitled to his opinion. Just as we are entitled to listen to it and then dismiss it as complete nonsense.

Agreed. It is probably the case that his comments are wholly driven by sentiment. But as Chip has pointed out he hasn't had to sit through umpteen games in which Turner's decisions have cost us games. But, as Stelling said, he is entitled to his opinion. Just as we are entitled to listen to it and then dismiss it as complete nonsense.

welcome aboard

Fair enough about Russ Green, and some of us mere mortals will never know what's really gone on behind the scenes. Chris Turner though? Over the last year and a half or so he's consistently made baffling decisions, picking players out of position and dropping players when fit because of personal differences.

This season he had no money to spend, what about last summer when he brought in 14 players and made no improvement to the position at the end of the season?

I get where you're coming from and it's great sentiment to your friends but I still believe the tone of your voice and the way you announced our second goal had a lot of resentment. Watch it yourself and see, you're normally VERY happy when we score, it almost seemed as if you were upset we'd done better without Turner.

I felt that national TV was not the time or the place for such a rant against the club, what's happened has happened and we must move on. Whether we agree or not.

Oi Jeff.
Can you get me a date with that flirty bird of yours on countdown.

I couldn't possibly comment on Russ Green but I've seen enough of Turner in action to agree with every word in the above post that concerns him.



Turner was given funds to improve our fortunes in League 1 after the season that culminated in us avoiding relegation by the skin of our teeth after an unspeakably shyte performance at Bristol Rovers in which we lost 4-1. He then proceeded to spend said funds on players who invigorated our squad to the extent that last season we avoided relegation by the skin of the skin of our teeth!

Would you fall over yourself to give the bloke more money to waste? sorry spend?

To be fair, any intelligent prospective applicant, researching the Club's history with managers, would be able to draw his own conclusions.

Chip hits the nail home yet again!!!! A string of recent posts which simply cannot be argued with in my opinion

Mr Fullofhimself.

The vast majority of posts were in praise of Russ Green, I personally dealt with Russ when we did that CD. Now people can think what they will of that project but that aside Russ was ultra positive and its fair to say that without the part he played the thing would have flopped.

Russ was Mr Positive, he used his contacts to get sponsorship, he made sure that players were there to sign CD's and that caused a queue of 700 people all buying the record.

I for one do not have a single bad word for the bloke and those few critical comments miss a big point and that is about authority to act. It's well known that Uncle Ken holds all decision making power at Pools so to hold Russ to account for stuff he wasn't authorised to do is wrong in my view.

Fair play to you by the way for signing up and saying your piece.

flinders, austin, collins, liddle, horwood, sweeney, murray, gamble, monkhouse, brown and boyd

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I think Chip has a very good point there, our current 11 would IMHO put up a good performance against our play-off final starting 11. Which by definition means that we can do well this season with them.

The only question really is do we have the back up of the likes of Provett, Tinkler, Williams and Daly on the bench, behind our starting 11.

PS: IP address and email address suggest that Mr Full is genuine.

Fair play to the guy for making his point but all im bothered about is rectifying the shambles of last season, upto now it's been a good start and if Ken wants to continue ruling the roost, we can consolidate our place in league one and hopefully bring in a sponsor or two then that will do for me.

Now regarding your Saturday job, what's your views on sky making football Saturday only available to subscribers?
It's not very good for tight gets like me :)

Agree with those who reckon we have decent enough side, its just if we pick up a few injuries and bans then we could be in trouble filling the gaps.
And agree with those who said CT made some bizarre team selections and bad signings. But I remember him bringing people like Flash Watson to the club and not just keep us in the League but get us up as well.
My worry is who comes in - we all remember Mike Newell ! Wadsworth a good coach and will get us organised, but he's not a man manager and needs to work under someone.
Those who heard it will know that rant was mainly about Russ Greens departure.
Anyway lets stuff Wigan and get a good draw in r3.
And Lightning Tree, no chance with Rachel mate. She's mine .In my dreams anyway.

Rachel Riley is lovely

As I said on a previous post, we could appoint a manager in the same way as we appointed Cooper, with the proviso that Wadsworth stays as No2.

This gives us some form of continuity and allows Wadsworth to do what he appears to like best, be on the training pitch( his interview after win yesterday seemed to say that)

Now who comes in, is open to a great deal of debate, Cooper worked so someone like him, Turner first time round worked, so in my opinion and up and coming manager who can bounce things off Wadsworth would be my choice.

With regards to injuries/suspensions. We may not have a so called strong bench in many fans opinion, but what we do have are players Turner brought in last season, and these same players supposedly give us cover in every position and our strongest squad for a couple of seasons (Turners words, not mine) So with that in mind how can Turner have worked with one hand tied behind his back, look at yesterdays squad. Counting Boyd 6 of the starting 11 were brought back/to Pools. 6 of the 7 subs were brought to the club by Turner 12 out of 18. Sorry that doesn't read like his hands were tied to me. And Austin and Yantorno weren't involved.

Do you also believe that by highlighting what you believe to be right,( I respect your opinion as I respect everyone's) that Turner's hands were tied on a programme that would have been on in just about every pub/club and football ground in the country that the manager of Pools has to work with one hand tied behind his back it will help to attract a manager of some calibre to the club or in fact hinder it ?

If Turner had a hand tied behind his back then id love to know what Wilson et all had tied up!!

Cooper done ok under the current chairman, and with less resources at his disposal than Turner too.

I know Jeff is posh, but it's only his opinion. But if he was glad it happened, you wouldn't have heard a whisper.

Rift House isn't posh! He's another raggy arsed lad from the estates like most of us. Admittedly he's moved now.

hardly a seaton carew accent is it ???