Why have different people asked the question

Will you attend next season if Turner's in charge?

It's a pointless question.

Who do people on here support HUFC or Turner ???

I'm in the Turner out camp everyone on here knows that, but I support Hartlepool FC, not Turner and for that reason I WILL attend the Vic for every home game next season. Whether I attend away games is a different question. I will pick and choose the away games as I believe my money could well be better spent, while Turner in charge. That way I actually don't give other clubs/towns/businesses my money, but I give to Pools which is important to me.

They my club nothing and I mean nothing will change that. I believed it was also everyone's on here club and for that reason everyone should be supporting them.

Don't give me the excuses that we going downhill with Turner in charge, we not progressing, we're Pools we're always struggled, we're always been in bottom 2 leagues, yes , like other's I want more, but at end of the day we're Pools we know what we get.

Next season is a record breaking 4th successive year in the 3rd tier of English football why shouldn't we just simply be proud of that fact.

I wanted better this season, I want a new manager but regardless of whether Turner in charge on first day of season I'll be there.

If your a supporter of Hartlepool United FC you will be there.

New season new start who knows we may do the same as the 2003/04, 2004/05 season and surprise everyone.

We may not but those players that start the first game next season deserve our support.

Poolie till I die, no matter who in charge..............

Why use 20 words when 200 will do?

But some people are less willing to fork out £20 a game if they are going to put up with a similar standard of performance to what we have seen this past season. This is fair enough isnt it? A lot of people will see the purchase of a season ticket as a greater risk with Tubby in charge.

Some on here won't understand 20 words it's to simple for them.

Get your A***s of the sofa and get to the Vic , don't be a keyboard warrior who has a thread ready to post when the final whistle goes and we have lost.

Who do you support ?????

Pools or Turner

If it's Pools go to the Vic support the 11 on the the pitch, voice your opinion against Turner, don't sit at a pc and say it behind a non de-plume.

And yes I post on a non de-plume but 90% of people on here know me and will see me at every game at the Vic and most away games, possibly till next season.

I may make my protest by not attending away games but still give my team my support and my money at the Vic

Whoaaaaaaa there me old China!

I'm not a keyboard warrior or an armchair fan, nor do I post when the final whistle has just gone

hth

Grave you have nearly 8000 posts on this board, that makes you a long time supporter.

You must been through the Tait, Moncur, Houchen, Horner, and many others era's so why do you expect more.

I agree with your point to a certain extent but you've seen worse and probably still attended home games, so why not attend now. Is it because your expectations are higher.

The answer of course is YES BUT WE SEEN WORSE.

Why are most being pessimistic before a ball has kicked, we,ve seen a lot worse but still had hope for the new season. I'm not saying we'll get better if i let my head rule my heart I'll say we wont, but my hopes are still there.

I've mentioned 2003/04 and 2004/05 no one on here expected those 2 season's we got them though. Maybe 2010/11 may be exactly the same.

But I'm forever the optimist

I not having a go at any particular individual.

You know what I mean, your an intelligent bloke, but those posters exist you know it I know it.

won't knock you for that in any way shape or form, Chip.

family, etc should come before pools regardless of how much you love them. getting a life as you put it is also a deciding factor.

Like you i travelled length and breadth of country, like you I've took lieu days to watch Pools.

Now I'm retired I can go to every game, but there's the niggling doubt in my mind, do I want to spend in the region of £4000 watching every game, my heart says yes, my head says not with Turner in charge.

I will get a season ticket I will probably attend the 1st rounds of JPT, Coca Cola Cup if at home, I will attend 1st round of FA cup regardless of venue, I will attend 1st game of season no matter where again.

I will be at all home games, after that who knows, I will become what I jokingly call mated "part timers" But unless we get the "cartwheel signing", unless Turner becomes the league 1 equivalent of Mourinho then like you I may well get a life. I don't want to not attend but like many other's I feel with Turner in charge I need to make some sort of stand.

I will pick and choose away games and those may well be games at grounds I not attended and there wont be many in our division next season that fall into that category.

OK
Im dead bored with your sanctimonious holier than thou shite, I know that your life isnt spectacular packing cakes or whatever, but how you spend your wage is your choice.

So you miss time with your kids through pools, commendable, but questionable, especially when you brag about gambling at poker and smoking joints (Just what i have read from your posts)
Come on Walter, you have loads of lives, why not grab one and be real

Dont blame pools for your failings

Keep the faith

Bob, as always, my hat is off to you.
(That almost makes you a dut, and in the Hanlon household, a dut is revered!)

Why do the players who start the first game deserve our support, by the looks of it its going to be a very similar squad of players as this year, who were to say the least poor barring one or two.

A squad of players who half of the time couldn't be arsed at home, and away from home gave some 'performances' which darlow would of been disgusted at.

It's an away game.

Don't know where yet though.

Hope that helps.

Correct. The first game in the league cup is also away afaik

Out of all the posts over the last few days on The Turner saga Chipster has nailed it with this post.

I'm really struggling with some of the "what if Turner gets it right" posts on here
Hard evidence points towards the likelihood that he is only going to continue in the same vein

Turner is a shite manager - and that is a hard, cold fact

Every week or two someone post a big 'we'll fight them on the beaches' speech along the lines of this, the underlying theme being I'll support Pools irrespective of performance, management, etc etc etc... The inference being that should you disagree then you are less of a supporter and a lesser person.

Don't you dare disagree because the wrath of the holier than thou Pools evangelists will condemn you to the bowels of hell. You'll see the usual cop out statements of course;

I support Hartlepool United not any individual
Poolie till I die
Never say die
Keep the faith
He's a great ambassador for the club
He's been a great servant

It's all a smoke screen of course, it changes not one iota the pathetic situation within Hartlepool United in fact if anything it makes it worse because by swallowing this gubbins you accept that being served up complete shite week after week is acceptable.

well turner is according to the mail 'satisfied',it seems that survival was what he aimed for and he has achieved that,so well done chris

I am a big critic of Turner. His record is there for all to see and it is very difficult to argue with the stats.

I have stopped beating myself up over the frustrating situation we are faced with.

Until KH decides he is not the man for the job or Turner himself holds up his hands and asks to be replaced, allowing him to go back upstairs, then we are stuck with him. I am not going to continue banging my head against a brick wall over it

When I was preparing for marathons a few years ago the training was like banging your head against a brick wall, it was great when you stopped.

Supporting Pools is getting to be like this now, I think I will take 3 months out, and come back refreshed in August and see how I feel, and see if I want to carry on.

I try not to think about the turner issue as it just boils my blood.

He's an incompetent tw@ who blames everyone but himself. I want pools to succeed but i hope turner gets the boot and never gets a job for the rest of his life.

I prey that if we do struggle next season under him then Ken will act before Xmas to make another appointment.

I will still be going and I imagine I'll still go to away games when I can. But I don't blame anyone who feels differently. Over the past two seasons Turner has proven that, with regards to football, he couldn't organise a piss in a toilet! I am still confident he will be replaced before the season starts. Even if it is only West who comes in to manage the first team.

His comment in the Mail last night was absolutely unbelievable. Satisfied indeed!

The bloke is an absolute disgrace. A complete clown and I would not piss on him if he was on fire.

For the first time in about 25 years my dad will not be re-newing his season ticket and has voud never to go again as long as Turner is in charge.

Sounds like an excuse to me.

Nowt would give me greater pleasure than for us to have a storming season next season and be top 10 all year, pushing the play-offs or even getting into them with Turner in charge and then see if all of these people proclaiming never to go whilst he's in charge change their tune.

I stick by my previous post (on whichever thread it was) where I think that, barring catastrophes, a manager should be given at least 2 years to build a team before he's judged and that too many clubs and especially supporters fail to see the necessary long term requirements in favour of short term views.

Turner's 2 years will be a few months into next season, giving him a chance to make the 2 or 3 key signings that I think we're short of to have a squad most definitely capable of being very competitive in this division.

Yes, Walsall was awful and what you've said above is pretty much word for word what I said. No question about that. If we're still churning out performances like that in October and November of this year then I'll most definitely be wanting a change of management, but at the moment I think that too many people are being premature.

What do people expect? A new manager to come in and get immediate results? That isn't a nailed on certainty and so you may then have another 2 year building period whereas giving the current bloke a chance could potentially see an upturn in results and performances quicker than a change would.

Last summer we signed shed loads of new players. We had to because of the dross that Wilson (why do people think he was wonderful now he's gone) left us with his short term fixes of old bastads. It's always difficult to get that many new signings not only 100% correct but also to get them playing straight away.

This summer, as I've said elsewhere, I really do think that we only need 2 or 3 really good signings to have a team that you can then judge Turner on.

fetish,

i support pools not turner, correct.

But in the past even when pools where not playing well i have stuck by them and been rewarded with a decent performance the next week.

Now last season i had the same mindset, poor performance this week will get a better performance next, however this very rarely happened! Even if we won, the performance was, well, boring!

Why should we pay £354 for a season ticket, during an economic slide to be bored every week???

I still support the team but can still do this from home watching a more entertaining football saturday and saving money!

You say you are not turner fan, yeah? well surely you want him out of the club?
if people dont turn up to matches the board surely are going to clock on to the fact that its because of turner! Not attending matches will eventually lead to the sacking of turner, then the crowds will come back!

No.

You support a team by turning up and "supporting" them.

Staying at home and wanting them to get good results makes you a fan, not a supporter.

Hope that helps.

Most of what you are saying there is BS.

You can't 'support' Pools from your arm chair while watching Chelsea or Man U or anyone else.

People aren't staying away just because of Turner, it's also because they are skint, apathetic, and only want to watch us when we play a big team or when the team is doing well, people don't like entertainment they like glory, that is the difference between those on here who moan but still turn out to watch the team and those that moan but never attend unless it is a game V Darlo or a premiershit side in the Cup.

Next season I won't be getting a season ticket, partly due to being pissed off at this season and last but also because I will probably miss 3 or 4 games next season (mainly the early ones) and it becomes a waste of money to buy a season ticket. I will also be less likely to attend the freezing cold Tuesday night in winter matches if we look like we have for the majority of this season. However I will also be making an affort to attend more away games this season, at least half of them is my target.

So why not let him go now...If your statement becomes reality it will be another season before we see any change...... as the new Manager / DOS will want his own team / set up not the one he will inherit at Christmas halfway through a season....

The way CT is talking he is going nowhere just like us...

We have become a club that is happy just to survive in League 1 be it on the last day of the season or some other club beating somebody on the last day to do it for us.

Whatever is served up in between is irrelevant. we might win games we might not...... get used to it we are punching above our weight.

Everyone I know is pig sick of the whole Circus act throughout the club at the moment..... I know of nobody who is renewing their season ticket YET! apart from Poolie Bri

And you can expect no appealing season ticket deals to attract you back to the Vic..because there is nobody capable of doing the maths....... FACT!

Would the owners be really out of pocket compared to this seasons income through the gates if they charged the following next season,

Adults £10

OAP, KIDS, Under 21's £5

I'll tell you this........... we still would not fill the ground!

got to agree most of my mates ar,nt renewing there tickets
i am getting mine im not happy but thats me

I agree go at least you will be able to voice your opinion of tubby if he is still in charge

Nice one Bob. I said the same thing a while back. I support HUFC - that doesn't mean I have to support the manager of HUFC. Pools are my club - always have been and always will be, whoever is in charge. There have been lots of times when it would have been easy to pack it all in - especially as I haven't lived locally for over 40 years. But I keep on coming back for more, and so do the rest of the family who have all been initiated into the Poolie fan club.

I always look forward to the start of a new season - admittedly sometimes with more hope than expectancy - but I will be there.

Someone else has made the comment about being a supporter and being a fan. This is true - to support means to get behind, to encourage, to cheer. Shame a few more can't be too bothered. Perhaps there are too many "fans" on here and not enough "supporters".

How is this an excuse, my dad loves Pools and went during the shite time of the 90's however at this time we had no money and rubbish players but they made up for that with hard graft and managers doing the best with what they had.

Turner has been backed more and with more than any other manager in our history and still its going down the shitter, this all points to one man.

I know my dad should still go and support the lads after all its a team not one man that we support, but causing this type of feeling with die hard fans cannot be good or ignored.

We need to win these people back and either get rid of Tubby or (and I really hope this happens) we do very well with him in charge next season, however me like a lot of other cannot ever see this happening.

He must have had his eyes tight shut then when the likes of Stephen Pears, Chris Beech, Peter Billing and the other lazy, last payday, cannot be arsed fuckc-unts signed for us

This sepia tinted 'eeeehhhhhh 'Pools could leave their gates open and nowt would get nicked and Gar Gibbo told us everything we need to know' shite gets on my bollox

The point still remains though that something major must be wrong at the club when a bloke who has been to every home game for the last 25+ years will not go again until the manager has gone

See my post on this thread of 17-05-2010 @ 1212h.

Well fkin said Mr A.

I've just made a post about this on itb... basically Turner's going nowhere, there's nothing anyone can do about it so people should pick their bottom lips up and have a bit of positivity. We don't know exactly what the budgets are at the club or what goes on behind the scenes so how about we lay off the manager/the board/the pies/the programme sellers and get behind the team?

We're the fans and we'll be here longer than any owners, managers, players (maybe not Humps...) or staff so how about we just get on with it, you never know, a good atmosphere and a full pre-season for a lot of our players, coupled with one or 2 new additions might give us a bit of a surprise next season.

I will still be going and always will even if we were out of the league. I have talked to my dad till I am blue in the face about still going but he is addiment he is not returning until Turner goes (he says this now but wait till the renewal form comes in).

To be honest I might just buy him the ticket as I know he will be gutted come the season starts also he will loose his seat above the tunnel and will probably never get it back again.