The Bunker
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But it really has descended into a platform of bile filled abuse at anyone or anything connected with pools (unless they have been 'let go') or anyone who doesn't agree with the Estasblishment. A case of 'Damned if you do or damned if you don't' in all cases surrounding Turner and any decision made by the club.
From being, without doubt, the most incisive, witty at times thought provoking and outrageous message board on the planet it is now merely a hate campaign against Turner and the club. This might cut a bit of slack to Mr POK who is usually the butt of the bullies snarling cynical wit (although someone still managed to have a pop at him over the Bradford Fire thread) but is not pleasant reading nor is it balanced. It has turned into a parody of what it was originally formed for and out of.
A real real shame, in my opinion, although those with the pitchforks and lanterns will no doubt see things differently through their one eye

It is of course at my discretion whether to visit the board or not, my choice, I could quite simply ignore it and have done for the last few months popping back on every now and then to see if anything has changed but all I see are tunnels at the end of any light

as time goes by I probably will visit less and less, no loss to the board you say, and probably right, because I don't belong here anymore, not on this board this is not the board I joined. I don't belong here because it is an 'anti pools' board and will remain so for as long as anyone who dares be positive about anything pools related is pounced upon with hysterical gnashing and slapping of keyboard.
And that role belonged to Darlo, or any Rivals.
Tis a shame for me that I don't fit anymore

Some bunkerites threw toys and dummies other just discretely stopped posting others ranted and left, I left a monologue about nearly departing, as I am a positive person

There's a lot of irate folk on here spouting vitriolic bile about a doomsday scenario because of the retained list. It's sad, but it might make them feel better about other failings in their life I suppose.

The worst part is that it seems to be fashionable and the latest band wagon to jump on to slag off Turner, our players, Colin West, Ken Hodcroft, IOR, the ticket office staff, Russ Green, Mark Simpson, the club cat and probably the fkin ball boys.

Some of the sad bastads claiming to be looking for something else to do on a Saturday afternoon should fk off to darlow to watch "real" non-league shyte.

Can I just say before people post "hilarious" videos and sarcastic comments that I agree with every word you have said. Top post mate.

Edit: and the stuff Mr Ripper has said too.

Well I agree with you MJ, but only to a point. The negativity on here has gone way beyond anything in the past and is now at times bordering on sick and disturbing
'didn't we used to like Sam Collins when their lass was ill'
Its feckin awful that and its not in isolation.

It is difficult to ignore posts as I have to open them to realize they are best ignored.

Rivals is dead
Long Live Rivals

I think the Oi, You! JOHNNY ROWELL thread sums it all up.
Negative bile towards players and management who kept us up and the highest praise heaped on a kid who most people have never seen play(Ive watched rowell play 3 times in reserves this season and he didnt impress me).

Abuse against certain players is out of order, but I'm sure people are just venting their frustrations in relation to the retained list.
For people like Collins, Humphreys and Sweeney to be offered a further year and Larkin, Bjorrson etc still here for the new season doesn't bode well for the new season.

Agree entirely with dugoutpaddy. A lot of individuals on here clearly have a lot of pain and frustration in their lives and use Pools as a catharsis.

The bile/poison on here is utterly unrepresentative of the mainstream of Poolies' views. It has been tragic to watch the decline of the Bunker over the last year. Most of the best posters have left and been replaced with people who appear to hate the club.

Recently even a lunatic fringe have a pop at IOR have emerged. Anyone anti-IOR wants sectioning.

To be frank given the current level of 'debate' you may as well readmit headlander - if he isn't here already. He'd fit in nicely in the mainstream on here now.

And I know before anyone says it that I don't have to look on here or post on here. I think it's about time I did stop both.

The recent threads about the (entirely appropriate) release list were absolute proof that the lunatics have taken over the asylum.

I'm deleting my account and removing the bunker from my 'favourites'.

My point exactly
Why don't they?

I may be one of those sitting on the sidelines, but Im not drowning.
Its a bit like looking around Hartlepool Town Centre, seeng all the chavs, smackheads and 30yr grannies stuffing Greggs pasties into kids faces and thinking, I'll go somewhere else for me strides, somewhere where its not intimidating to go against the norm,
no Chip Im not drowning, Im waving.
You just keep on fiddling feller

Err its not my board I just visit
I don't want it to go to wrack and ruin, because that is a shame, its just goin that way, administrators and moderators, like you, let it.
I dont think I called it tragic and I didn't say it was funny. you did.

I remember a few months back where you came out with the its not my board its yours routine to someone else, it came just after you had posted about why you controlled the boards and deleted posts

I find this thread amusing.
People are posting stating that, because of what they are reading, they are not going to bother coming on anymore. At the same time they are criticising others on here for threatening not to watch Pools because those people don't like what they have been watching.
What the hell is the difference??????????????

The underlying reasons for criticisms of the club, the players or the staff is that the people who are concerned in this are actually worried about where the club is presently heading. In short they love the club. I include myself in that category. And before anybody wants to tell me we've never had it so good, I have seen most of the ups and downs over the last sixty years more than most.

There are always at least two sides to every argument so, as Chip has said, lets hear some more of what people describe as the positive side. Or is it really that there isn't much of a positive argument that can be put????

People have already become or are threatening to become disconnected ( new buzz word ) with their club. Only a small fraction of that group post on here.

Nothing would please me more if I were able to say I am satisfied with the current overall situation at the club, but I'm not.

And no I don't want to go and watch Chelsea, Darlo or anybody else. I want to watch Pools and be happy doing so.

I am not criticising from a position of watching the odd game here and there. I average something like forty games per season, spending around four thousand pounds in the process. Join me at these games and your opinions will become really important to me.

err I wasn't being 'sick' I was simply highlighting the hypocritical fookers on here who got supported him because of a family illness but are now back to calling him a c-unt

He's certainly not a bounder but he is part of the problem of a defence which conceded so many goals.
He shouldn't have been given an extra year, as such the defensive problems will continue next season.

[quote="derwent" Join me at these games and your opinions will become really important to me.[/quote]

I have to disagree slightly with just that bit of your post. As you have stated going to 40 matches a season costs approx £4,000 that may well be out of some peoples disposable income to actually "join" you.

Everyone's opinion should be respected, if not respected at least listened to.

The actually name calling has over the past few months, in my opinion got out of hand.

For example many people on here are calling Humphreys, now whether he is up to doing a job is once more an opinion, to resort to calling him after the service he has given the club, is out of order,once more in my opinion. The picture on here shows that, there is absolutely no need for it and it is way over the top. Yes criticise a performance but do so on the performance. And as I have said on many occasions any player ,even those who played badly in the previous game deserve the support of ALL fan's in the next game. They dont go out to perform badly.

I want Turner out but I want him out based on results I haven't called him in any way shape or form in a personal way.

Some on here think personal abuse is permittable, by that I mean they think they have the right to resort to personal abuse, yet if they were to suffer from it they would be claiming victimisation and harassment.

but when you post pro pools threads you get this response
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=32402

'pro pools post' = telling everyone to fuck off and support Chelsea?

That thread was given the contempt it deserved, you went in all guns blazing and you were rightly shot down. There was fck all positive in there.

now i think the message was too subtle
here goes


stop moaning and support pools

hows that



we are still a league 1 team and with some good signings may have a good season next time

we will never average big crowds

players will have bad games but the failed northern league players on here will tell us all they are shite and they could do better

until pre season starts bickering will continue on a daily basis.

i would prefer turner not to be our manager next season but it looks like i will be disappointed.

but as long as turner is managing pools then he has more say than me in who he lets go and who he plays
i have realised this and hopefully some other bunkerites will realise that they will have as much say as me on team affairs.

now who are pools signing anyone know

I'm not sure I agree with the definitions of positive and negative posts. It's more that there are good and bad points which can justifiably be made about the Club.
Agree about the abuse, though, which is pretty shocking at times.

Paddy's right about the board having changed its nature. For a start, in the old days there were hardly any football posts at all ..that was the point, in a way. I do miss lots of the people who used to post.

PS By the way, Paddy, I still haven't cleared me books out. Hope you've not been holding your breath for the 'released list'.

The Mary Whitehouse crew are really out in force today. If you don't like what you read you have two choices; post an alternate view or don't bother reading it. By sitting back and tut tutting you're just being pathetically holier than thou. Any board is simply a sum total of its users, its a community and doesn't belong to any one person. Without the users its an empty piece of software in the ether.

You have a view and so do I and everyone else. Some people would still defend Pools management if they started boiling babies as half time entertainment whereas others would complain if Pools lost in the final of the FA Cup.

The frustration for me is that it is crystal clear than within HUFC there is a cosy little club and your performances good or bad are irrelevant. If you're in it you're selected if you're not then you won't be. This has led to a massive level of complacency which translates to poor and sometimes uninterested performances. Meanwhile there are hungrier and better players rotting on the bench or in the reserves. For the likes of Jonny Rowell, who has been universally praised, to be booted out without being given a real chance is criminal.

Incidentally; its not a individual board thing, look elsewhere and people are just as pissed off and the vitriol is much stronger in some cases.

Expressing an opinion as to the suitability of the manager in his current role is fine. Backing it up with reasoned debate like Mr Fireball just has is even better.

Calling him a cnt or similar in my opinion isn't, and I'm going to start deleting future posts which resort to this kind of abuse. If people are doing it because they're so upset that they can't help it then they might need a cooling off period like people have had in the past.

For my part, I don't believe I've ever abused turner, I do seriously question his management and decision making abilities though.

Very good idea.
I still think it's Mr I's fault. he never tells us about his cosmetics any more. Folk are bound to get bored and resentful

I don't tend to use them these days, other than moisturiser (Nivea) after a shave. I do also have some Clinique pre bedtime cream too. Does that make me gay?

surely he got a contract because he is a decent experienced player? He has been solid in a lot of matches, although does appear to have lapses in concentration. Also there is a chance that Turner will bring another Centre Back in, who's to say Collins will be a 1st team regular next season? Its hardly as if he has been pushed by those in the reserves, is it?

But going back to the original topic, constructive criticism should always be given but its been going well past that recently, it appears that the "no Rarfs Arms" doesn't do what it says on the tin anymore.

Not until one considers all the other evidence....

I dont see what is wrong with calling him names where it is justified. The current problems at pools are in my opinion largely down to him. He gets paid a lot of money for doing a job which he is incompetent at. He could do the decent thing and resign but he chooses not to and continues to blame everyone but himself. He re-signs players based on how much he likes them rather than on any account for their ability and ultimately this is not in the clubs interests therefore he is a bounder. Ive justified my reasons for calling him so what is wrong with it?

Some people are more than willing to call others names but feel it is wrong to call anyone associated with pools merely because they are a supporter. My loyalty is to Hartlepool United, not Tubby. The sooner he fecks off the better the club will be.

Its perfectly acceptable to call politicians on the basis of their 'performance' so why not the clown curently managing Pools.

Only because I slag off the manager does not mean im not a supporter of the team.

because its childish and rarfish?

Except that practically all of what you've just written is conjecture.

By all means say that you don't think that he's up to the job, even say why you think it if you want to.

You seem to get off on being miserable and negative, I suppose that's your prerogative. You also seem to get off on letting people know exactly how miserable and negative you are.

All I'm saying is that it's becoming repetitive seeing posts such as "Turner is a ...." and I'm getting a bit sick of it- I don't think I'm the only one who is either.

That's a really constructive reply............you wanna practice what you preach.

Ok.

The "I go to more games than you" argument used by people who have the time, money and lack of anything else in their lives is piss weak and makes them sound a bit sad and self righteous.

Hope that helps.

I think the board is very lively and full of good debate. It does go over the sometimes but the mods do a good job policing it. (Do I get the Oder of the Brown Nose?)

Now the HOWEVER

The attacks on posters for expressing an opposite opinion are unwarranted, especially on new posters. It just defeats the object of the board. I've changed my user name as I was sick of the mindless attacks and no doubt I'll do it again. I'll have to find a name that will fit nicely with the old guard.

I now await the abuse and the "ffs" the "bounders" etc

steal someones who used to post but doesn't anymore.

having the username "Trimdon" would see you become a living legend....

Well most people clearly understood it. He signs his mates rather than good footballers.

..until you get nicked for bandwidth theft??

That's better Mr Ripper............now the real test is to see if you can keep it up.

I am not using the " I go to more games than you" argument to prove anything other than making the point that I am not interested in people criticising the performances of the team unless they attend the matches in which the criticism applies. Hope that clears that one up for you. I do understand that some people haven't got the time or the resources to follow Pools like I have and I also appreciate that.

However once again I would like you to understand that what I do with my time or resources has got absolutely nothing to do with you and therefore suggest you keep your sneidy comments to yourself.

You obviously have a problem with putting together constructive argument and, at every turn, seek to belittle other people's posts because of your complete inability to argue your corner without insults.

I am getting quite fed up of your tedious attempts at having a go. And no I won't go away before you suggest it.

You really need to grow up.

Thats rubbish Mr D, the correct spelling is 'Sniedy' (i before e and all that)

I always thought it was Snidey?

Snidey comments?

From the bloke who just said that if you don't go to 40 games a season then he considers your views worthless?

You couldn't make this shit up.

Although the sudden attempt to move the goalposts in this latest reply is funny after yesterday when his craic was how he knew the workings of the military inside out because he'd read a book about it.

You seem a bit touchy today Mr Watty?

I bow to your superior knowledge.

I bow to your superior knowledge.

Pass the other one on to Mr B

It's you who are making the shit up.

Where did I say that anyone's view was worthless if they don't go to 40 matches a season?

Where did I say I knew the workings of the military inside out because of a book I'd read?

Who is Mr Watty, or is he the goalie in the goalposts you are now moving???

Now come on clever clogs........

two bitches at it making my day

I'm the dildo though..................

Sorry to disappoint you Bri, but there's only one "at it". I'm not even gonna waste my time on it, it's been perfectly clear for a long while that he's got too much of it free.

Aye you're right mate............my apologies.

Ah.............so you can't answer the questions on the lies you have written.

You're all mouth and trousers..........and both are full of shit.