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 Post subject: The root of the problem.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:50 pm 
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A lot of supporters are shouting for CT`s head which is very understandable, but for me there is a bigger problem at the club his boss, if he were the chairman of any other of the many IOR companies he would have been sacked long ago.HUFC is funded by the mother company and being profitable is not a number one priority, but you are never going to have any sustainable success at pools unless the desire to be profitable is the number one aim of all concerned. The greatest thing lacking at pools at the moment is urgency, but urgency is required from the very start of a season not just when everything looks to be going tits up. I see only apathy at the club which runs throughout the entire staff that work there things are too comfortable for them, and why not when your guaranteed your money at the end of the month. The IOR goose will always lay another golden egg.


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 Post subject: Re: The root of the problem.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 6:31 pm 
I'm puzzled as to what your point is?? sctatchinghead sctatchinghead


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 Post subject: Re: The root of the problem.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 6:35 pm 
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motopool wrote:
The greatest thing lacking at pools at the moment is urgency, but urgency is required from the very start of a season not just when everything looks to be going tits up.


I dont really get your post either tbh and this bit is just wrong in my opinion as the club are not really showing ANY urgency now nevermind at the start of the season.Ken has basically not reacted AT ALL. Its not as if he realised late in the day that things were going 'tits up' and sacked the manager, he still has not shown any urgency or willingness to correct matters. It almost as if we are just resigned to Tubby being in charge and that is that.

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 Post subject: Re: The root of the problem.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 6:59 pm 
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He's saying that a free market economy as described by Adam Smith in 'The Wealth of Nations' is missing at Pools and that no one therefore has an incentive to achieve because there is no profit motive.

This theory is countered by the electric light company studies in the twenties where workers were subjected to varying lighting conditions and then asked about the effect on performance. Performance improved in all lighting conditions whether conducive or not which was interpreted as being the result of interest shown by those in authority and that social as well as economic conditions effect performance.

Obviously no one is asking Pools palyers whether the floodlights are bright enough or not :laugh:

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 Post subject: Re: The root of the problem.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:21 pm 
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chip fireball wrote:
motopool seems to be suggesting that hodcroft sack himself because pools dont make any money.


:laugh: Its made me chuckle the idea of him doing that.


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 Post subject: Re: The root of the problem.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 11:54 pm 
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chip fireball wrote:
but surely only a handful of football clubs make money ?

so why arent they all shyte like us. :wink:


Because as I pointed out there are other factors than the purely economic.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:49 am 
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chip fireball wrote:
so we play shyte irrespective of whether the floodlights are on or off, but we would play better if turner asked the players if they wanted then switched on ?


Thats possibly a start.

The upshot of the industrial psychology/management theory is that although economic factors i.e. financial rewards are important, different factors i.e. financial/social/psychological, motivate individuals whose needs vary at different points in time.

Some managers can recognise the needs of individual players in their team and get the best out of them as did Brian Clough as does Martin O'Neill.

The debate going on here is about whether the current manager has got the skills to manage a successful football team. The team and the players within it aren't realising their potential and thats because their individual and collective needs aren't being recognised and responded to.

Turner can probably turn the floodlights on and off but it seems thats as far as his management skills go.

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 Post subject: Re: The root of the problem.
PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:11 pm 
chip fireball wrote:
im even further confused cos last week motopool posted this :

" No need to sack anyone...... just sign a feckin manager! "


presumably motopool is dibble and this is another of his hilarious wind up threads. :shock:




Not enough full stops in thread for it to be Dribble


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