Is it possible to Somersault out of the king johns.

http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/Fa ... 6150012.jp

Absolute BS, the stairs are very little, you could not summersault even once going down those stairs, if he was that frail why on earth didnt he use the main entrance which has a ramp and a handrail i believe?

I think they are just looking for some money out of this, sorry to hear about the old guys fall (it cant have been nice), I hope he is ok, but why use the stairs when there is a perfectly good ramp?

There's also a new 'parked in a Disabled Bay and got a fine' story

Of course you did you clown!!

Check out his address, sums him up really !

I couldn't believe the disabled parking story the idiot should have the fine trebled for being a lazy so and so, what an attitude I couldn't get in the child friendly one so I will park in the bay marked for disabled people and then goes to the paper to moan about it. These people make me sick.

link?

Typical idiot. How can't he see he's in the wrong.

Doyle Walk.

What a pleb, deserves the ticket, I hope the bounders double his fine.

The lazy feckin silly boy (sorry talbot!). So what if the parent and toddler bays were full? Saying he doesnt want to park elsewhere as he doesnt want to damage anyone elses car What a nobber.

There are plenty of places further away from the store where they could have parked and had plenty of room to get the baby out of the car ffs. Lazy sods. Like appleyapper says, the fine should be trebled.

Im glad asda are sticking to their guns and didnt back down because the doyle went to the press

what a fooking tit. How does he need more space? i have 3 kids and a fooking massive gut and i can manage in a normal parking space.

wanker

Absolutely love the ads by google as you scroll further down the page.......

"how much is your claim worth?.....Find out in thirty seconds"

You really couldn't make this sh*t up, could only be the Mail site

I got collared in the parent and child bay at Morrissons. When the officious looking fat bloke came complaining that I shouldn't be parking there I replied; 'this is a parent and child parking area isn't it?' Yes he said. I then pointed to the old bloke sat next to me and truthfully stated 'well this is my dad'

It's annoying when you see people without kids parking in the parent and child bays but it's no excuse for parking in a disabled bay.

The most sensible solution would be for the supermarkets to issue some kind of permit for parking in those bays in order to help them control it, but what would be the criteria for getting a pass? Just go in and ask for one?

I've had a few conversations with folk recently when I've seen them parking in the parent and child bays without a child. One a fortnight ago was at Morrisons in Diddlesbrough when a bloke and his mrs parked up in the parent and child bay and got an old dear out and proceeded to plonk her in her wheelchair. Their argument was that she was disabled so they could park wherever they liked, and that the disabled bays where a few yards further away from the shop door even though there was loads of them empty. I pointed out that they were ignorant chavs and left them to consider it although I doubt that they had the brains to give even the remotest of a shit.

Serious question though, does anybody think that there are too many disabled bays at supermarkets and not enough parent and child ones? I know that they're controlled by legislation which states that they have to have a certain percentage of their parking bays allocated for disabled, but seeing as though I've never ever seen them full at the supermarket is it possible that the percentage is too high?

By the way, the people looking to claim for the old guy having a fall say that they're doing it to try and prevent it happening to anybody else. If that's really the case and they're not doing it to try and get a couple of quid then can The Mail please ask them if they can promise to give any money raised from litigation to charity, e.g. Help the Aged, and run a follow up story with the answer?

The legal position is that supermarket parking fines (and all private parking fines) are unenforceable - they don't have the legal authority to fine the public. Any redress they could claim through the courts would be their losses under commercial law which, if there were spaces at the supermarket, would be zero. Only police and local authority parking fines are enforceable. If any of you get private parking tickets then have a look at this site

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/fo ... -offences/

IF they were doing it to highlight the problem i would have thought the pub itself would be a place to start rather than the mail
they just seen the fucking pound signs as soon as the old man fell
fooking claim culture pack of theiving lying bastads.
1 of the lads from work had to go to court last week as a bloke was claiming whiplash for a low speed impact at asda roundabout and wanted 7K plus his repairs to his car the recorder awarded him £419 and ordered him to pay his own legal fees
its these bastads that push the premiums up for the rest of us who dont claim
cos ok protected no claims means you get your no claims discount guaranteed but the fucking premiums still go up meaning you still get 70% but of 3k rather than 2k( thats an example of a premium and not what i pay mind)

If anything I think there are too many parent and child spaces. The car parks at the supermarkets in the town are huge and if people are that desperate for more room to get their littleuns out and there is no designated parking left then they should just find a place where there is two spaces, there are always plenty. I'm sure the extra 30 yard walk won't kill them. As opposed to disabled parking where there is obvious need for them to be close to the entrance.

This is surely impossible if you have a pram with you though?

I'm thinking about contacting the mail and asking how such a story concerning a lazy git WHO CAN'T WALK a few yards and making a complaint is newsworthy when the plank is totally in the wrong what sort of poor world do we live in.

It's not the walk and it's not just a case of parking in a space where nobody is parked in the next one. How do you know that when you come back people won't have parked either side of you thus making it difficult to get a baby into the car even if you have parked "miles away"?

Ok, the car parks are large, make more parent and child spaces if space isn't the issue. They don't have to be near to the shop, they could be 100 yards away, just make sure that there are trolleys available near to where the spaces are so that you don't have a potential situation where somebody has a baby and a toddler and has to try and negotiate the car park carrying the pair of them before they can plonk them safely in a trolley.

Anyone who parks in a disabled bay who doesnt have a blue badge is a bounder and should be fined about £1,000. My dad is disabled and it boils my piss people doing this, I constantly ask people why they are parking in them when they dont have a blue badge, "oh it doesnt matter" is their response, I say well it matters to my dad, I am sure he would rather you have his disability and him be able to walk them extra 20 yards to the shop you lazy twat.

Just spoken to the Mail and vented my anger at this story I can't understand that this was deemed newsworthy and I told them that. The question of parent and child parking, when my children were little there wasn't such a thing and you got on with it maybe we are spoilt these days.

If you parked on the other side of the car park, the chances of someone parking on both sides of you within half an hour are minute. It won't happen. I'll give you a pound if it does. Have you contacted said supermarket about this instead of bumping your gums on here?

Whats wrong with walking across a carpark with a baby and a toddler, you hold the baby in one arm and hold the hand of the toddler with your other, wlaking the 50-100yards to the shop. Funnly enough drivers will see you doing this as at most they will be travelling at 10-15 miles an hour. Its Tesco / Asda not Monaco.

Maybe we are spoilt, but why not? Another issue with normal parking spaces is where do you put the trolley or pram when you're putting your child from the car into it? With a normal parking space you're behind the car and at the risk of being hit by a careless driver not paying attention. Due to the fact that a high proportion of drivers in shop car parks are female that is a very real and enhanced risk.

I do agree that the fines for parking in disabled bays should be vastly increased though. At the same time people's attitudes may be different to them if the blue badges weren't handed out to people who didn't really need them though, as there seems to be a lot of people using the badges who don't need them and this can only be to the detriment of the people who really need them.

I used to think like you and Tax Payer when I didn't have a child.

There's a fair chance that there's a lot of people who abuse disabled bays do so because they don't understand the need for them unlike you who has a disabled relative.

Try thinking outside of the box, it isn't necessarily easy and I've already admitted that my view has changed since I began using and needing them.

Fair enough I will agree with your point there and dont know first hand how difficult that could be with two kids. But this guy is an idiot thinking that he should get priority over anyone disabled. Also how much room does it take to get a kid out of a child seat, if he can get out of the drivers door, that should be ample room to get his smaller kid out of the back.

I think that is a fib

Agreed.

However as I stated previously, some people (wrongly in my opinion I hasted to add) take less notice of the disabled parking bay restrictions because they see people who are able bodied getting out of their blue badged car and waltzing into the shops. That is wrong too, and a clampdown on who gets these badges might see a lot more respect for the people who genuinely need them.

Trouble with supermarkets is the amount of disabled spaces. I mean are they expecting a bus trip from Lourdes?

There does seem to be a high number proportionate to the demand, however as I said earlier I think this is to do with some daft government legislation stating that they have to provide something like 6% of their total parking allocation. Maybe somebody could confirm?

I think there is a fine of around £1,000 and the taking back of the blue badge, I have only ever used this taking my dad places, but agreed that I have seen people bounce out of cars with a blue badge and more people should be questioning if the person is really picking up the disabled person etc.

I do know this happens though as my mam was taking dad for a check up, dropped him off at the door and then parked in disabled bay, a traffic warden asked my mam about the badge and then followed her (very sneekly) back to the doctors to check if she was telling the truth about meeting him.

There's two elements to the problem here Mr Compo.

Firstly there is the people using the badge to transport a genuinely disabled person. My nana qualifies for a badge which my mother has for taking her out and about but she wouldn't dream of using it when she hasn't got her mother with her. Unfortunately some people don't think like that and use it whether they have the disabled person with them or not.

Secondly there's the number of people given these badges when they don't really need them, especially people who are signed off on the sick cos they don't want to work and don't want to be forced to look for work on JSA so manage to get signed off sick for trivial and / or bogus reasons. These people should be clamped down upon as amongst other things it would free up some money to look after the genuinely disabled properly instead of having to spread the pot of money with the bogus claimers.