we have lost 1291 home supporters since the Crewe game on 28th December 2008

That is a frightening figure given the attendances were already very low.

What can the club do to rectify this?

Control the weather?

The popular opinion seems to be to get rid of Turner.

Was it red hot the day we played Crewe then?

It's not something I'd thought of but its an idea that has potential....

It was nowhere near as cold or snowing as it was today

I agree there might be one or two other factors besides the weather

So you think the fact we have lost 1300 supporters in 12 months is partly because of the Bunker?

Create jobs at 20 quid per hour then we have no excuse then, unless we can not get out work for the match

What if people don't want to go to the game because they believe they could have a more enjoyable day by spending their money on something that isn't likely to be quite so dull?

Thats it people are spending on more important things say like the family and the club will suffer because of it logical really

Mr Costello - Whether you, me or anyone else likes it some people have not and will not forgive Turner for doing one when he was here the first time. It didn't help that he took away one or two of Pools better players and tried to sign others either. Not everyone backs the Turner project and to be honest CT himself has made himself a bad to back with some of his 'tactical' decisions and comments.

We are in a tough league but I don't need Chris Turner to mention that all the time, in the summer we needed quality in the centre of midfield and CT seemingly put all his eggs in one basket to sign Healy which was very naive. We don't seem capeble of sustaining 10-15 minutes of pressure on teams in most games which means people are leaving the Vic feeling like the entertainment value is nil. Today we won but it was poor and we rode our luck.

What sort of comments would you like to see on the messageboard ? Everyone on here just wants the best for Pools as far as I'm aware...

Couldn't agree with Phil more.

11th in League One on merit. If you don't believe me look at goal difference. Home form in the last 9 home games of won 5 drawn 3 lost 1. That's 18 points from 27. This is despite coping with the loss of both of our best players- one because he wouldn't sign and the other to injury again.

Some very good new players signed , most of the gaps in the squad we all knew were there addressed. The other main gap in midfield acknowledged and the manager actively trying to plug that gap.

And yet the accepted view is that we need to sack the manager.

I ask again - if heading for the 3rd highest finish in the 101 year history of the club in a season of massive transition isn't enough, then what is your realistic expectation?

[/quote] Everyone on here just wants the best for Pools as far as I'm aware...[/quote]


Nah, there always has been and always WILL be fans who even though they go on a regular basis revel in a 'Pools defeat

Nah, there always has been and always WILL be fans who even though they go on a regular basis revel in a 'Pools defeat[/quote]

lol at people not going because of negativity on here Im not sure if your referring to me but i aint stopped going and havent for about 20 years but i dont plan on being there next season if changes aint made. If that makes me a bad supporter then so be it. Its a sad state of affairs when people who have been going a long long time cant be bothered anymore and get no enjoyment at all from match days.

People arent going because the football is shite and we dont have someone in charge capable of managing an under 9s team. Bring back some excitement, some passion and good football and people will be back.

I dont have a big problem with the fans who slag off turner or the team.
We all have opinions and opinions create debates which is what makes this messageboard so popular.
But at the end of the day we are all pools fans.
As long as those with the opinions actually go and support the team then I can handle that.
Its the ones who dont go and blame turner, the weather or whatever foooking stupid excuse they can make up which piss me off.

Must agree

Ive watched workington and other crap over the years do not want to see it again so we should be looking to enter the next level are we going to is the serious question

We may not be playing THE best football we have played in the last 10 years but thats not what its about is it?

becoming a mainstay league 1 club, building slowly but surely and gradually developing into a play off contending team is the main aim.

I think the main problem for me is, Football was never a cost issue, but nowadays the ways its going, in order to keep up at this level and aim higher, its too bloody expensive. People expect value for money when they are forking out potentially £60+ a month.

At the minute some people do not think its worth the money.

I couldn't give a shite what quality of football is on offer like, i will be at every single home match until the day i die.

a lot of people, me included, believe that a better manager would get at least another 25% out of this squad, and not let leads slip so often. That can't be coincidence, yes we're doing ok but I can't help but feel we have more potential than we are displaying. Some of the football vs Burnley showed what the players can do, but to me it is getting stifled.

*sound of nail being hit on the head*

My Utopia would be a Hartlepool United tax.
This would involve a tax of £10 a month taken from everyones income over the age of 18.
So, for instance there is a population 18+ = 50,000 people.
This would generate an annual income of 6 million quid.
Everyone over that age would be offered a season ticket.
If they didn't want one then hard foooking luck.
Its the towns club. If the town want it then make them pay.
If they dont want it then hard foooking luck.

thats a nice little idea that. What about all the spongers on the dole though?

The thing is we need a football club

This thread could so easily have been copied off our messageboard 12 months ago. One of the best teams we have ever had, fair enough the football wasnt amazing every week but we were heading towards promotion. However our crowds were crap & the rest is history. Theoretically you should be getting crowds not far off from what you were getting under Cooper. The thing is, its costing more now for what the floaters would call an inferior product. Once that mindset kicks in you have to end up pissing the league to get them back.

Does Darlington deserve a football club? No. Does Hartlepool deserve the one they have now? Probably not. Do the die hards of both clubs deserve one? Definately!

Who started this

At last a sense of realism from many posters I agree totally with chip. The bigest achevement is can we escape relegation in our 3rd season at this level, retain Flinders, Austin, Collins yes Collins for one more season, Liddle, have Brown and Boyd fit and hope for continued progress in some of our players such as Hartley who has improved both defensively and I thought he was our best performer at Leeds, get more aggression into Bjornsson, develop Jones' vision for a pass and get a few pennies for Monky either on 31st January after he has scored 3 more crucial goals hopefully, or in June.

Our problem is we may not score enough goals, be reative enough and cannot mount a 15 minute stroking the ball about sessions where we carve out chance after chance.

We have a solid rather than spectacular team, but a dam site better than the dreadful Ingram 'et al' 1995 and Darren Williams '2006' relegation sides.

i'm doing my bit by turning up, what any one else does is there own business

On recent form so would I. But I do fear his improvement in form coincides with the January transfer market reopening.

This time 5 years ago i was a student living with my old man with shit loads of money, the thought of missing a pools game would make me go insane, and it was only £6, peanuts really, i would go to every home game and about 15 aways, happy days.

Life changes though and since then i've had 2 nippers, moved out and got a house, am no longer a student so £20 every other week i just cant justify, priorities change and as much as i still follow pools the desire to go just isnt there anymore.

Maybe the relegation season has put a lot of people off, the group of 5 or 6 i used to go with i can only think of 1 who regularly still goes now.

It's mill house baths every saturday for me now then the wacky/mr twister, all for less than a tenner.

whats mr twister

kids soft play area

your probs still small enough to attend