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He has been interviewed on the football league website.
One of the questions he was asked was ........who would you sign for the club...........he said he would go for a holding midfielder.
If that is anything to go by we may be in the market for one............I really hope so.
Who realistically would people like. Gary goes for Xabi Alonso, which is fantasy.
I would like to see Tommy Miller in there or Michael Brown.
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Tommy Miller has never been a "holding midfieder" and Micky Brown is pure fantasy this season.

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Mr Ripper wrote:
Tommy Miller has never been a "holding midfieder" and Micky Brown is pure fantasy this season.

Hope that helps.

Miller has played in the holding role....he would do so again. We've got RH in there at the moment, so I'm sure Miller could " adapt" :wink:
As for Mr Brown...I wouldn't be so sure if I were you :wink: :wink: :wink:

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derwent wrote:
Mr Ripper wrote:
Tommy Miller has never been a "holding midfieder" and Micky Brown is pure fantasy this season.

Hope that helps.

Miller has played in the holding role....he would do so again. We've got RH in there at the moment, so I'm sure Miller could " adapt" :wink:
As for Mr Brown...I wouldn't be so sure if I were you :wink: :wink: :wink:


well i would as he is playing two leagues higher than pools and if we cant afford dimi's wages then think he might be out of our league

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Compo wrote:
derwent wrote:
Mr Ripper wrote:
Tommy Miller has never been a "holding midfieder" and Micky Brown is pure fantasy this season.

Hope that helps.

Miller has played in the holding role....he would do so again. We've got RH in there at the moment, so I'm sure Miller could " adapt" :wink:
As for Mr Brown...I wouldn't be so sure if I were you :wink: :wink: :wink:


well i would as he is playing two leagues higher than pools and if we cant afford dimi's wages then think he might be out of our league

Ah but what if a benefactor appeared and offered to pay a sizeable chunk of Michael's wages.........what then eh ?????

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derwent wrote:
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Miller has played in the holding role....he would do so again. We've got RH in there at the moment, so I'm sure Miller could " adapt" :wink:
As for Mr Brown...I wouldn't be so sure if I were you :wink: :wink: :wink:


well i would as he is playing two leagues higher than pools and if we cant afford dimi's wages then think he might be out of our league

Ah but what if a benefactor appeared and offered to pay a sizeable chunk of Michael's wages.........what then eh ?????


Then Wilko's window would be a sea of bare Poolie arses.

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 Post subject: Re: Gary Liddle
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Compo wrote:
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Tommy Miller has never been a "holding midfieder" and Micky Brown is pure fantasy this season.

Hope that helps.

Miller has played in the holding role....he would do so again. We've got RH in there at the moment, so I'm sure Miller could " adapt" :wink:
As for Mr Brown...I wouldn't be so sure if I were you :wink: :wink: :wink:


well i would as he is playing two leagues higher than pools and if we cant afford dimi's wages then think he might be out of our league



And of course by two divisions you mean one
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I'm assuming by two divisions higher he meant Michael Brown and not Miller stpid

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I'm assuming by two divisions higher he meant Michael Brown and not Miller stpid



Either or, neither will sign for us at the present time


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I'm assuming by two divisions higher he meant Michael Brown and not Miller stpid


Seeing as though that's how it was written I'm concurring with you Mr Thornley. :laugh:

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I'm assuming by two divisions higher he meant Michael Brown and not Miller stpid



Either or, neither will sign for us at the present time


I take it that you'll be one of the Wilko's Window brigade then Mr Avenger?

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Brown could take his pick of any championship club, he wouldnt come here.

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Can you actually see through Wilko's windows???????

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Can you actually see through Wilko's windows???????


Dunno now that you come to mention it.

Maybe the arse-showing event should be held elsewhere?

Any suggestions?

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 Post subject: Re: Gary Liddle
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Clavering. :grin:

Mind with all the arseholes up there we'd have trouble making ourselves obvious, but if Mr Talbot is involved, I'm flying in..... clappp clappp


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Brown could take his pick of any championship club, he wouldnt come here.

If the money was right Pools would probably be the only club at this level he would come to.
Pools are gathering middle east sponsors and the publicity gained by a move for such as Brown, taking into account that the investment would be tax deductable, would be well worth it.
It is not as daft as it first sounds, but we'll see.
A holding midfielder is on the radar, as is a name to generate public interest.

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Brown could take his pick of any championship club, he wouldnt come here.



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 Post subject: Re: Gary Liddle
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Do we mean the same Mr Brown who used to play for Sheffield United?? sctatchinghead sctatchinghead


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Do we mean the same Mr Brown who used to play for Sheffield United?? sctatchinghead sctatchinghead


yeah he is the one who was on loan with us for a season and scored a free-kick against darlo away

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Do we mean the same Mr Brown who used to play for Sheffield United?? sctatchinghead sctatchinghead


Yep.

The one who scored a beaut of a free kick at Defeathams.

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 Post subject: Re: Gary Liddle
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Mr Derwent you do understand that Brown probably earns in excess of twenty thousand pounds a week don't you? He has also started 10 Premiership games this season...

Why would he drop to this level and where would we get the million pounds a year plus to pay him from?


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Mr Derwent you do understand that Brown probably earns in excess of twenty thousand pounds a week don't you? He has also started 10 Premiership games this season...

Why would he drop to this level and where would we get the million pounds a year plus to pay him from?

He would drop to this level if he didn't suffer any financial loss, cos he is a Poolie.

I've already suggested where the money would come from.
It is under sponsorship so would be tax deductable, making your £1m decrease somewhat to around £600,000. To a wealthy benefactor that amount is peanuts.

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Mr Derwent you do understand that Brown probably earns in excess of twenty thousand pounds a week don't you? He has also started 10 Premiership games this season...

Why would he drop to this level and where would we get the million pounds a year plus to pay him from?

He would drop to this level if he didn't suffer any financial loss, cos he is a Poolie.

I've already suggested where the money would come from.
It is under sponsorship so would be tax deductable, making your £1m decrease somewhat to around £600,000. To a wealthy benefactor that amount is peanuts.


Are you on drugs today or are you seriously suggesting that some Sheikh or other is gonna start ploughing loads of money into Pools some time soon? sctatchinghead

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Mr Derwent you do understand that Brown probably earns in excess of twenty thousand pounds a week don't you? He has also started 10 Premiership games this season...

Why would he drop to this level and where would we get the million pounds a year plus to pay him from?

He would drop to this level if he didn't suffer any financial loss, cos he is a Poolie.

I've already suggested where the money would come from.
It is under sponsorship so would be tax deductable, making your £1m decrease somewhat to around £600,000. To a wealthy benefactor that amount is peanuts.


Are you on drugs today or are you seriously suggesting that some Sheikh or other is gonna start ploughing loads of money into Pools some time soon? sctatchinghead


i don't know but i'm getting hard just thinking about it :shock: bbolt

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Mr Ripper wrote:
derwent wrote:
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Mr Derwent you do understand that Brown probably earns in excess of twenty thousand pounds a week don't you? He has also started 10 Premiership games this season...

Why would he drop to this level and where would we get the million pounds a year plus to pay him from?

He would drop to this level if he didn't suffer any financial loss, cos he is a Poolie.

I've already suggested where the money would come from.
It is under sponsorship so would be tax deductable, making your £1m decrease somewhat to around £600,000. To a wealthy benefactor that amount is peanuts.


Are you on drugs today or are you seriously suggesting that some Sheikh or other is gonna start ploughing loads of money inot Pools some time soon? sctatchinghead

Why wouldn't anybody want to plough money into Pools? Are you suggesting it is not feasible? How much have IOR ploughed in ?
What is to stop IOR taking on further investors in order to progress the club further?
Now that the council want a solution to the ground sale ( which I reported was going to happen weeks ago) Pools need to finance their development plans. To justify the further development of the ground we need more bodies through the turnstiles. To get that we need to have an ongoing policy of team building and strengthening. This policy is now being put into place with an intention of getting to the championship.
It all makes sense to me....with or without drugs.
Of course we shall have to wait and see, but it is obvious that there is some intent there or why would IOR still be dogged in their determination to get hold of the ground, and why would the sudden supply of cash for team strengthening become available when gates are falling to alarming levels?
There is something afoot, of that I am certain.

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Why wouldn't anybody want to plough money into Pools? Are you suggesting it is not feasible? How much have IOR ploughed in ?
What is to stop IOR taking on further investors in order to progress the club further?
Now that the council want a solution to the ground sale ( which I reported was going to happen weeks ago) Pools need to finance their development plans. To justify the further development of the ground we need more bodies through the turnstiles. To get that we need to have an ongoing policy of team building and strengthening. This policy is now being put into place with an intention of getting to the championship.
It all makes sense to me....with or without drugs.
Of course we shall have to wait and see, but it is obvious that there is some intent there or why would IOR still be dogged in their determination to get hold of the ground, and why would the sudden supply of cash for team strengthening become available when gates are falling to alarming levels?
There is something afoot, of that I am certain.


I think the team strengthening was needed otherwise we would have been relegated this season. Are you saying this is your opinion, based on what you see, or have you heard something to suggest it?

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And i'm sure a player on 20k per week compared to the rest on 1-2k would be amazing for morale.

I mean it worked with beckham in the usa...

And windass in his book recalls many many bradford players being upset that carbone was on 40k whilst they only brought in 4-5k

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Why wouldn't anybody want to plough money into Pools? Are you suggesting it is not feasible? How much have IOR ploughed in ?
What is to stop IOR taking on further investors in order to progress the club further?
Now that the council want a solution to the ground sale ( which I reported was going to happen weeks ago) Pools need to finance their development plans. To justify the further development of the ground we need more bodies through the turnstiles. To get that we need to have an ongoing policy of team building and strengthening. This policy is now being put into place with an intention of getting to the championship.
It all makes sense to me....with or without drugs.
Of course we shall have to wait and see, but it is obvious that there is some intent there or why would IOR still be dogged in their determination to get hold of the ground, and why would the sudden supply of cash for team strengthening become available when gates are falling to alarming levels?
There is something afoot, of that I am certain.


I think the team strengthening was needed otherwise we would have been relegated this season. Are you saying this is your opinion, based on what you see, or have you heard something to suggest it?


In everybody's opinion, including the office cat, team strengthening was required at the beginning of last season. It didn't happen though, did it? We got three players....Jones, Power and Cook.........all untried youngsters. We struggled and stayed up by the skin of our teeth. All of a sudden the policy was changed even though the revenue was falling and continues to fall. Have you ever considered why the sudden change? We went from living within our playing budget to an obvious substantial increase in our playing budget and yet we have always been told that success would not be bought. It is being bought now.
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Why wouldn't anybody want to plough money into Pools? Are you suggesting it is not feasible? How much have IOR ploughed in ?
What is to stop IOR taking on further investors in order to progress the club further?
Now that the council want a solution to the ground sale ( which I reported was going to happen weeks ago) Pools need to finance their development plans. To justify the further development of the ground we need more bodies through the turnstiles. To get that we need to have an ongoing policy of team building and strengthening. This policy is now being put into place with an intention of getting to the championship.
It all makes sense to me....with or without drugs.
Of course we shall have to wait and see, but it is obvious that there is some intent there or why would IOR still be dogged in their determination to get hold of the ground, and why would the sudden supply of cash for team strengthening become available when gates are falling to alarming levels?
There is something afoot, of that I am certain.


I think the team strengthening was needed otherwise we would have been relegated this season. Are you saying this is your opinion, based on what you see, or have you heard something to suggest it?


In everybody's opinion, including the office cat, team strengthening was required at the beginning of last season. It didn't happen though, did it? We got three players....Jones, Power and Cook.........all untried youngsters. We struggled and stayed up by the skin of our teeth. All of a sudden the policy was changed even though the revenue was falling and continues to fall. Have you ever considered why the sudden change? We went from living within our playing budget to an obvious substantial increase in our playing budget and yet we have always been told that success would not be bought. It is being bought now.
Your other question is not going to get answered...sorry.


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And i'm sure a player on 20k per week compared to the rest on 1-2k would be amazing for morale.

I mean it worked with beckham in the usa...

And windass in his book recalls many many bradford players being upset that carbone was on 40k whilst they only brought in 4-5k

That's a red herring I'm afraid. There are far bigger differentials than that, always assuming your figures and PJ's are correct.
The club have openly stated things like " We are trying to finish as high as we can." and " the playoffs are a goal, if not this season then as soon as possible". Not exact wording perhaps but the general gist. Pools make no secret of their intentions.
It is painfully obvious that we don't have the ground capacity or the immediate crowd potential or the playing squad to sustain championship football without an initial wedge of investment.......and by wedge I mean wedge.
So it is either put up or shut up time.............for me it is put up. I am convinced that we are going to make the effort.

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You've said a lot of shit there but at no point, despite quoting my post, did you respond to any of the stuff i made...

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You've said a lot of shit there but at no point, despite quoting my post, did you respond to any of the stuff i made...

You quoted differentials............. I replied by saying that there were far bigger differentials.........I just assumed you would understand that ..sorry.
That is a response.............probably not the one you wanted but a response nevertheless, so please don't accuse me of not responding...........I'm sure you can bring a better argument than that to the table.
Oh and if you think what I write is shit, then don't read it.

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Really ??????????????/ Is that the best you can do?

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Has the price of crack dropped drastically of late, or have they put it in the water supply? sctatchinghead

Ok then, just for you.
The club have stated their intention of trying for the play offs and ultimately the championship. That is common knowledge.
Do you honestly believe that getting to the championship and staying there can be achieved without substantial investment?
Do you think our crowds or stadium will be able to cope with the championship without substantial investment?
Or do you think that it is all pie in the sky and that the club are kidding?
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I think Derwent puts across some very good comments.

And no i'm not on drugs.

I'm having my tea first :razz:

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He's not even that good, infact i dont rate him at all, hes not worth bankrupting the club for.

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I think Derwent puts across some very good comments.

And no i'm not on drugs.

I'm having my tea first :razz:

Thank you sir.
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He's not even that good, infact i dont rate him at all, hes not worth bankrupting the club for.

Ah but you've never seen me cut in from the wing. :wink: :grin:

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Firstly Tommy Miller in the holding role?? Id rather have Humphreys. He is an attacking midfielder and always will be. Although the thought of him behind Boyd and Brown and with Monky linking in would be some frightening football.

Derwent is one of my favourite posters but i still cant believe Brown would come back here. Yet.

However i do believe Derwent knows something..........

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He's hinting he knows someone has has went on for 2 pages insiting ior wanna do this and that, so maybe he does.

I don't doubt we have ambitions to sign a high calibre of player, but the brown thing wouldnt come off for a ton of reasons...

pompey just spent a million quid on him, so are they gunna just give us him for nowt?

poolie or not, the guy will have ambitions of playing at the highest level as long as he can.

wages - investor or not, 20k a week is too much for us, do we wanna be paying that on just one player? we could spend those wages on about 10 players and improve the full team.

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We could spend £20k a week on ten players and increase the squad. I'm not convinced we would be improving it. All we would be doing is causing a traffic jam of league one players all itching for a game and getting frustrated that they weren't getting one.
If we are going to go onwards and upwards then we need to add quality to the squad. If we are trying to get to the championship then it is logical to assume that we intend to compete there. That being the case then it is imperative that any future additions need to be a bit better than what we've got.
It is a matter of opinion as to who those players should be but I think we would all agree that they need to be above league one standard.
That takes investment.
IOR will either do it alone or will recruit further investment, I firmly believe it will be the latter.................can't put it any plainer than that.

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Dont want to put a dampner on the idea of Brown playing for Pools but i have asked this question to a lad i know who is a very good mate of his and he had already asked him and he reckons when he does play at a lower level it will probably be for a team around where he is now living and settled (Manchester way i think he said).


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verbalkint wrote:
Dont want to put a dampner on the idea of Brown playing for Pools but i have asked this question to a lad i know who is a very good mate of his and he had already asked him and he reckons when he does play at a lower level it will probably be for a team around where he is now living and settled (Manchester way i think he said).

That being the case then he'll turn us down. That doesn't stop us trying. After all he travels to Portsmouth at the moment, so that kind of contradicts his reluctance to travel.
Ask your mate if he would bet against Brown playing for Pools, cos I certainly wouldn't.
Que sera, sera.
Quality will be coming, of that there is no doubt.
Turner has already hinted at that with his attempts to sign Healy and the fullback on loan from Man City.
The objective at the club is consolidate and push on, FACT.
There you are, I've used the magic word. :laugh:

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The problem I have is that you seem to suggest we should spend £20,000 a week wages on players in an attempt by IOR to show they are 'serious'. This 'cartwheel' signing just smacks of the Asprilla to me.

I don't doubt IOR's commitment to the cause, and their intention to have us as a Championship club - but it will be following in the mould of Scunthorpe, and not Leicester City.

The investment will be there - just not to the level you suggest.

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WestParkPoolie wrote:
The problem I have is that you seem to suggest we should spend £20,000 a week wages on players in an attempt by IOR to show they are 'serious'. This 'cartwheel' signing just smacks of the Asprilla to me.

I don't doubt IOR's commitment to the cause, and their intention to have us as a Championship club - but it will be following in the mould of Scunthorpe, and not Leicester City.

The investment will be there - just not to the level you suggest.

Can you show me where I have said we should spend £20k a week on one player. I don't know what Michael Brown is on. It was PJPoolie who suggested he was on that amount.
Also I never said IOR were prepared to pay it either. I suggested the wages would be underwritten by another benefactor.
If you are going to argue against information I am passing on, then at least try and get it right.
You seem quite sure that the investment will be there.......your words.
So perhaps you will enlighten us as to what that investment will be, what it will be on and who will provide it.
I'm all ears. Or are you making wild statements because crack is now supplied on tap.

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So, are we signing Sol Campbell or not then? sctatchinghead

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Funnily enough I was walking the dog past the Staincliffe and......................... :grin:

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