Where was it ?

Roughly where abouts ? I vaguely remember going down Lynn street as a small child - couldn't have been for than 5 or 6 and into the old market. The only thing I remember about the market was the smell.

The Empire was (very approximately) over the road from Marks & Spencer.
Which itself was between Woolies and the Market.

Hope this helps.

Remember where the North Eastern was????

Well it was about 15/20 metres south from the North Eastern.

Where it stood roughly is now bungalows!!!!

The Market itself or the Market pub????

It was about 100 metres away from the Market pub....southwards....on the same side!!!!

You know what? how people suggest that we discuss obscure things on this board is beyond me

one has a vast collection of hpool postcards and will have a fish thro em and will also get the empire book off the old boy which will be a bit more specific - nowt wrong with your orange blobs but i'm intrigued now.

This reminds me of long long ago when I had a job doing research into Hartlepool theatres for a book that was supposed to be in the offing, to be published by the Council.
There were about 8 theatres in town at the turn of the century and a motley crew of actors would tour the country mostly doing music hall or Victorian melodrama. I often wonder whether that book was ever published after all my hard work (!). The council employed a sci-fi novelist from Seaton (called Mark Adlard) to write it up but I somehow doubt whether he ever did.

By the way Mr I, the smell you spoke of in the market, was toffee apples and treacle toffee wasn't it, from the sweet shop in the corner. I remember it well

But I'd put the pink blob another 25/30 metres south cos where it is now was the side entrance to the North Eastern!!!!

PS....bring the picture about 30 metres south and you could see me mams house!!!!

That car park could do with a sweep.

That pot-hole could do with filling!!!!

The grass could do with a cut

there you go


the shop next to the empire was DUNN &CO walk past the theatre and turn right you were in Musgrave Street and right on the coffee shop that was either Bianco or Currys the former pools chairman [he did have one outside the market but not sure if the one in Musgrave Street was his]

Near as dammit.

er... bollocks

In this photo you can just see the EMPIRE sign in the yellow oval. Boots is right next to M&S. Freeman Hardy Willis is the shop on the corner of the Woolworths block. The very last building, far left, is Robinson's Emporium. The car parked in the street is a baby Austin. There were no parking restrictions at that time which just shows how little motor traffic there was. Anything else?

The one in Musgrave Street was the Pic!

sorry richard but that pic is Lynn Street Dunn and co was on the corner of the Empire building with Peter Pell the tailor on the opposite corner [out of pic]
just remembered that the cafe in Musgrave Street was Amerigo's

Is that the same Amerigos who have/had the ice cream vans. Not sure if they still do but I think that they had the Picadilly Bar Ice Cream Vans based in Elwick Road

the very same Mr Fens

bang on there - the north eastern was exactly where they built those flats. where the blob is.

it was on the corner of freeman st and lynn street (non the wiser - need an older map)

anyway the righthand side downstairs (as you look from over t'road) was dunns and next to it left hand side were timpsons . also somebody rented rooms in there in 1922 and formed a social club - it were you genuine original hartlepools united supporters club and the club were the first floor on the left as you look from across road - so there you have it - a photo of this to be used in a forthcoming book of course (plug plug plug!!! - still have another one out you know - need to sell em!!pm me!!) together with some other top info.....boring myself now!

A cracking bit of Computer Wizardry that Mr.John!!!!

super dooper

North Eastern about 1930

I bet Letty Hurst nee Gallagher is in that photo!!!!

She seemed to have worked in there for yonks and was still working in there the day it closed down and always looked the same as she does now....old!!!!

Of course I know it's Lynn Street you non-post-understanding son of a fishmonger's mistress!
You're not a headlander for nothing are you!

When I say "pic" I'm not talking about a picture, I'm talking about THE PIC, but you have to be from WEST to know what that is!!

will check postcards and old boy later

but off in bath and then lunch

and then ch st to imbibe at leisure prior to kick off

come on pools like

Lormors....I remember it well and when they moved to the Bungalow after Musgrave Street was demolished!!!! :sweet:
The original Charles Dickens was next door I think....or was very close anyway!!!!

One of those of course is Hoggets music. It wasn't a corner shop.



I'm sure there were 3 entrances to the market, one of which doubled as the Civic Restaurant (your old map seems to bear this out).

Do you have ANY kind of photo showing the missing shops?

Next to the Pic in fact

New???, Furnishers - can't make out name


sams furniture shop

the old boy can't recall halfords being in lynn st - thinks it were york road - there again....

i have contacted a wise old sage who can and will assist with this side-bar to footy - now off out to juicer - see you in there groovy if you about

the ma used to work in a couple of shops on lynn st and said it were sams - you wanna argue with her!!!!!

ok mr frog that is fighting talk remember what we did to the last frenchie
and as you have been there so long you have become one

a pic is a pic in my book and a picadily is a cafe

do you mean Katy Hurst that lived in Burbank street and used to have a little shop near there ?

No....but she could be related!!!!

Just phoned me Mam Mr.PP!!!!

Katy Hurst was Letty's Mother-in-Law and she did live in Burbank Street!!!!

Her 'shop' was a front for her 'Money Lending' and/or 'Money Clubs' etc and was in her front room!!!!
If the 'Authorites' were ever suspicious of the comings and goings to her house she would say that she was selling 2nd Hand Clothes....which me mam said were really good clothes and quality 'names'!!!!
And if people were really poor or down on their luck she would give them the clothes!!!!

Me mam said she was a really nice woman!!!!

That is most definitely Lynn Street. Indentifiable on there are left to right the Farm Stores Ltd. (the black shop with the white sign), Hoggetts, Hadrian (ironmonger/DIY?), and Halfords.

As for the shop on the corner to the left, I'm working on it.

I KNEW ONE OF HER SONS thought he name was familiar

i'll knack the auld boy when i see him!

I know John and Frankie....Katy will be their Grandmother!!!!

Letty's Husband was called Tommy Hurst and was also know as Ginge(r)!!!!

He was a Chef at sea apparently!!!!

she was a canny owld stick

HALFORDS WAS DEFINITELY IN LYNN STREET....FACT! The Empire was only two shops away fro the corner of Musgrave Street, I've been doing a painting of it, so the image is burned into my brain.

your WHAT?
YOU LITTLE LIAR

OK it's on hire ....

That smell in the old market hall will always remind me of rock fish. Me mother used to buy them for me when I was an ankle biter and I always hated them. Being a sopisticated sort of cove I always preferred chocolate eclairs. Anyway, the Picadilly Bar was the first time I ever saw a smoked glass and chrome design and the first place I ever tasted lime and lemon.

That is all.

I think you're right Mr Katcha, toffee apples. When they opened the new market they initially moved the smell too but its gone now to be replaced with the smell of rotten veg.

I wonder if Bretts used to manufacture sweets in the old market.