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 Post subject: Leicester make Jones bid
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Allegedly, £750,000..If you believe the Daily Star.

Now as much as I think he should be part of our team this season, I would snap their hands off if that bid is true.

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 Post subject: Re: Leicester make Jones bid
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I don't believe anything that paper says. If it were true though, as you say Bob, I'd snap their hands off...


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For that amount of cash i would snap there hands off!

I would even drive him myself..


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This smacks of an illegal approach to me.
Snap their hands off for that sort of cash.

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This smacks of an illegal approach to me.
Snap their hands off for that sort of cash.


HA!!!

Why an illegal approach?

I'd sell any of our players for that money, infact i'd sell 2 for that.

Only brown cos possibly command more.

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How is it illegal isnt he transfer listed??

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I think what Derwent is getting at Compo, is that possibly, allegedly ,just maybe, someone from the alleged club,that has made the so called offer, may have mentioned to the aforementioned player, that they may well be interested in him,which resulted in that player submitting his transfer request. Of course this is all conjuncture, and in no way am I or anyone else suggesting that this is the case.

Therefore i think Im covered legally, as it alleged and conjuncture

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 Post subject: Re: Leicester make Jones bid
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How is it illegal isnt he transfer listed??

He's asked for a transfer, but it hasn't been announced he has been granted one.
This interest could have been engineered ( allegedly) before he officially asked for the transfer.
Very difficult to prove.
It may come out as such or it may not.
Sorry to be vague, but I can't elaborate further.

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From what i understand, and my sources at the club, allegedly of course, turner informed jones he can, if he would like too, sod off, cos we're signing healy, so feel free to leave jonesy, then healy never signed, turner TURNed round n said ere jones you can stay if you like, jones was like yer right, away man, who'd yer think i am like, a mug!

If our lass said to me ere i'm leaving yer cos i've got someone better, then he chucked her, n she was like away then i'll still have yer, i'd say sod off, i'd give her one first like, but i'd then say sod off, whilst cleaning myself up.

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i'd give her one first like, but i'd then say sod off, whilst cleaning myself up.


Instead of cleaning yourself up you should give her the spider-web

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if we got anywhere near £750,000 for him then it would be the best fuck up Turner has ever done.

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how much did we get for Boyd and Miller? Also they were producing brilliant performances week in week out, so this could be the best selling of a player ever at Pools.

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From what i understand, and my sources at the club, allegedly of course, turner informed jones he can, if he would like too, sod off, cos we're signing healy, so feel free to leave jonesy, then healy never signed, turner TURNed round n said ere jones you can stay if you like, jones was like yer right, away man, who'd yer think i am like, a mug!

If our lass said to me ere i'm leaving yer cos i've got someone better, then he chucked her, n she was like away then i'll still have yer, i'd say sod off, i'd give her one first like, but i'd then say sod off, whilst cleaning myself up.

If that was accurate, and I'm not saying it isn't, there are procedures in place to proceed with that scenario.
The player is under contract so he can either be transfer listed by the club ( or put out to loan with a view of being transferred ) or his contract can be mutually cancelled. Neither of these things happened.
I hope you can persuade your sources at the club to stand up and be counted should Turner's lawyers come a knocking.

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how much did we get for Boyd and Miller? Also they were producing brilliant performances week in week out, so this could be the best selling of a player ever at Pools.


miller was £750,000
Boyd was around £500,000


SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL!!!

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Compo wrote:
how much did we get for Boyd and Miller? Also they were producing brilliant performances week in week out, so this could be the best selling of a player ever at Pools.



Wasnt it 750k for Miller and 500k for Boyd?


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 Post subject: Re: Leicester make Jones bid
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It would have been better financially for Jones if Leicester had asked for permission to approach to him without him requesting a transfer. So the theory that he was tapped up and then submitted a transfer request is unlikely as Pools would've snapped up a big cash bid without him being transfer listed.

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From what i understand, and my sources at the club, allegedly of course, turner informed jones he can, if he would like too, sod off, cos we're signing healy, so feel free to leave jonesy, then healy never signed, turner TURNed round n said ere jones you can stay if you like, jones was like yer right, away man, who'd yer think i am like, a mug!

If our lass said to me ere i'm leaving yer cos i've got someone better, then he chucked her, n she was like away then i'll still have yer, i'd say sod off, i'd give her one first like, but i'd then say sod off, whilst cleaning myself up.

If that was accurate, and I'm not saying it isn't, there are procedures in place to proceed with that scenario.
The player is under contract so he can either be transfer listed by the club ( or put out to loan with a view of being transferred ) or his contract can be mutually cancelled. Neither of these things happened.
I hope you can persuade your sources at the club to stand up and be counted should Turner's lawyers come a knocking.


I did say allegedly

That covers me for anything i say

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 Post subject: Re: Leicester make Jones bid
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It would have been better financially for Jones if Leicester had asked for permission to approach to him without him requesting a transfer. So the theory that he was tapped up and then submitted a transfer request is unlikely as Pools would've snapped up a big cash bid without him being transfer listed.

Unless of course the club had been approached by another club who had their offer turned down and therefore were unable to speak to the player. Then suddenly the player finds out ( miraculously ) , becomes unsettled and slaps in a transfer request. Happens all the time.
As I said earlier it is all very difficult to prove but to rule it out is well,,,,,,,,,

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It would have been better financially for Jones if Leicester had asked for permission to approach to him without him requesting a transfer. So the theory that he was tapped up and then submitted a transfer request is unlikely as Pools would've snapped up a big cash bid without him being transfer listed.


But if he has requested a transfer then Pools' (and any other club, were players hand in transfer requests) actually save money. The way it used to work (it may have changed) if a player was sold by a club, then he had the right to any "loyalty bonuses" wrote into that contract, i.e a player for example may have it in a 5 contract that he receives for example £100,000 (use premiership wages to try and explain) bonus every year, once the player requests a transfer, he technically gave up the bonus, whilst if the club decided to sell then he would negioate , thats why some players are still paid by their former clubs even after being transferred , the buying club could decide to pay up any "loyalty bonuses" ,what they then do is reduce their offer.

As Jones only has 1 yr left on contract if their is any bonuses due it wont be a lot( IMHO), but as club took up an option, there may well be something.

Having said all this Im sure someone will tell me it all changed now.

So as previously said better for Jones (for himself) if he doesnt request transfer, though better for Pools if he does.

Of course IOR may not include loyalty bonuses in any contract so I could have wasted my time writing this.

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i reckon they may have added an extra '0' on the end by mistake. i do hope its true though

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I can't rememeber where I read it but one of the reports commenting on the clubs allegedly interested in Jones read something like "we've not received any offers and it sounds a bit like agent-speak". So his agent has been touting him around, at the request or not of the player, and having identified interest Jones formally put in a transfer request. I do hope Leicester have offered that sort of money. They were reportedly offering money for Nelson in January but I'm not sure a formal offer ever materialised. All this might be at the edge of what is legal/illegal for clubs and agents - but it seems the way it works in practice.

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750k for Jones

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I had a go at Turner for allowing Jones to reach a pioint where he asked for a move because I think he is a useful player. But for £750,000 I'd show my a*** in Wilko's window as well, and throw in a few dozen Pukka pies. I'd take £75,000 for him, never mind 750.

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I had a go at Turner for allowing Jones to reach a pioint where he asked for a move because I think he is a useful player. But for £750,000 I'd show my a*** in Wilko's window as well, and throw in a few dozen Pukka pies. I'd take £75,000 for him, never mind 750.

well i would do what ECG said he would do in Wilko's window if we get that much for him

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Frodraff wrote:
It would have been better financially for Jones if Leicester had asked for permission to approach to him without him requesting a transfer. So the theory that he was tapped up and then submitted a transfer request is unlikely as Pools would've snapped up a big cash bid without him being transfer listed.


But if he has requested a transfer then Pools' (and any other club, were players hand in transfer requests) actually save money. The way it used to work (it may have changed) if a player was sold by a club, then he had the right to any "loyalty bonuses" wrote into that contract, i.e a player for example may have it in a 5 contract that he receives for example £100,000 (use premiership wages to try and explain) bonus every year, once the player requests a transfer, he technically gave up the bonus, whilst if the club decided to sell then he would negioate , thats why some players are still paid by their former clubs even after being transferred , the buying club could decide to pay up any "loyalty bonuses" ,what they then do is reduce their offer.

As Jones only has 1 yr left on contract if their is any bonuses due it wont be a lot( IMHO), but as club took up an option, there may well be something.

Having said all this Im sure someone will tell me it all changed now.

So as previously said better for Jones (for himself) if he doesnt request transfer, though better for Pools if he does.

Of course IOR may not include loyalty bonuses in any contract so I could have wasted my time writing this.


I think your still spot on there bob that is still the case.

I remember Ferdinand wavered his so he could move to man u a few years ago.

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Well he can leave then, sod off jones!

Poolie_k well done on the stalking you would certainly give smythe a run for his money.

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Mainly for Oi, You! chip but for those of you who care Ritchie Jones Mrs has actually become his Ex Mrs.


Probably the best news I've heard all pre-season.

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Mainly for Oi, You! chip but for those of you who care Ritchie Jones Mrs has actually become his Ex Mrs.


is she from the town like, maybe I will come home this weekend and buy her a drink in nexus

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How is it illegal isnt he transfer listed??

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Pools havent officially accepted the transfer request, yet. However he obviously has a lot of admirers which could bump up the asking price quite a lot

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I agree about £750k being excessive, I reckon its a typo. I'd take £75k, would be better than we'd get at a tribunal if he left at the end of his contract.


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Pools havent officially accepted the transfer request, yet. However he obviously has a lot of admirers which could bump up the asking price quite a lot

how can we know if pools are telling the truth we always last to know


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Pools havent officially accepted the transfer request, yet. However he obviously has a lot of admirers which could bump up the asking price quite a lot

how can we know if pools are telling the truth we always last to know

because if they accepted his transfer request officially, it would be in their own interests to let people know, in order for them to make bids for him

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Lets not forget also that other clubs are interested in him so if there is an offer pools might as well make it public, highlighting others to the bid and maybe getting a bit more.

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Lets not forget also that other clubs are interested in him so if there is an offer pools might as well make it public, highlighting others to the bid and maybe getting a bit more.


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there is nothing illegal about a club unsettling a player by declaring there interest in the media.

Man united, liverpool, chelsea etc they do it all the time.

It's not right i agree.

But if leicester wanna put the feelers out by saying in the press hey we'd sign em then fair play to them, it just highlights to other clubs he might be worth a punt.

It looks now he will leave, so let's try and get what we can for him, whether thats via the press, agents, official site or whatever.

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It looks now he will leave


Why? Because the Star have made up a story about Leicester wanting him for ridiculous amount of money?

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No the erm... transfer request to be like, transferred from our club.

Stick to your downloading.

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Pools havent officially accepted the transfer request, yet. However he obviously has a lot of admirers which could bump up the asking price quite a lot

how can we know if pools are telling the truth we always last to know

because if they accepted his transfer request officially, it would be in their own interests to let people know, in order for them to make bids for him

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so why turner deny request was made last week?[/quote]

No he doesnt :

""He came to see me last week and I'm a bit disappointed because it's only after two pre-season games."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 174804.stm

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Because people lie from time to time, especially managers!!
Anyway, for what its worth I think he'll go but for £750k rolfl rolfl rolfl rolfl

More like 50k!!

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Because people lie from time to time, especially managers!!
Anyway, for what its worth I think he'll go but for £750k rolfl rolfl rolfl rolfl

More like 50k!!

i went to the rovers for talk with turner and green n both agreed there wud be no more cover ups so tell us the truth instead of reading it in the press sctatchinghead


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Yubep wrote:
No the erm... transfer request to be like, transferred from our club.

Stick to your downloading.


Provett, Sweeney and Nelse all put in tranfer requests but they didn't go anywhere in a hurry.

IOR believe strongly in contracts (rightly so) and I can't see many teams coming in for him with a fee. Not many teams will have had him watched last season and might not get much chance to see him this season to tempt them into parting for a fee for a player who can't even make the first team of a lower placed League 1 team.

Hopefully Jonesy will realise that he'll be better off putting his head down and fighting for his place back.

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Because people lie from time to time, especially managers!!
Anyway, for what its worth I think he'll go but for £750k rolfl rolfl rolfl rolfl

More like 50k!!

i went to the rovers for talk with turner and green n both agreed there wud be no more cover ups so tell us the truth instead of reading it in the press sctatchinghead


There are certain things that should be kept quiet though. Turner himself said he told Jones to think about it longer and not to make a rash decision but the rumour had already started circulating and the press had gotten wind of it. When Jones came back and handed in his transfer request, Pools made it public.

Next you will be wanting a list of times when all the players go for a shite.

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Thread is interesting and will go on and on [x]

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Because people lie from time to time, especially managers!!
Anyway, for what its worth I think he'll go but for £750k rolfl rolfl rolfl rolfl

More like 50k!!

i went to the rovers for talk with turner and green n both agreed there wud be no more cover ups so tell us the truth instead of reading it in the press sctatchinghead


There are certain things that should be kept quiet though. Turner himself said he told Jones to think about it longer and not to make a rash decision but the rumour had already started circulating and the press had gotten wind of it. When Jones came back and handed in his transfer request, Pools made it public.

Next you will be wanting a list of times when all the players go for a shite.

what lyk cooper n newell n wilson


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what lyk cooper n newell n wilson


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