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 Post subject: Do councillors want Hartlepool to stay an eyesore
PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:29 pm 
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Why vote against the plan to develop and do up the Teesbay retail park, I mean whats there already Aldi and B&Q every other unit is a hell hole.

http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/Co ... 5378445.jp

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The town centre is slowly dying, and I think that needs more attention than Teesbay right now.

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As bad as things appear to be in hartlepool they are nowhere near as bad as Billingham town centre which looks like Murray street on a very bad day.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:39 pm 
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The town centre is slowly dying, and I think that needs more attention than Teesbay right now.


the reason its dying as there are no good shops, it full of smackheads or nocked-upped teens with tracksuits on with the best revenue shops being wilko and 99p store

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It'll stay that way compo, i'm telling yer shopping centres are a dying breed.

You want a cd, you download it or go on play.com, or you can get it in the asda with your shopping.

Same goes for dvd's, computer games, house good, electrical goods, books, gardening equipment etc

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 Post subject: Re: Do councillors want Hartlepool to stay an eyesore
PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:44 pm 
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Our Town Centre (and some of our Councillors) are a joke.


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 Post subject: Re: Do councillors want Hartlepool to stay an eyesore
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Middleton Grange shopping centre is privately owned. Your questions on why it's so sh*te should be directed at the owners, not the council. The Tees Bay development was gonna bring good shops and jobs. Shame on the council officers who recommended refusal, and shame on the councillors who voted against it.


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 Post subject: Re: Do councillors want Hartlepool to stay an eyesore
PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:50 pm 
Cornelius Atweasle wrote:
Middleton Grange shopping centre is privately owned. Your questions on why it's so sh*te should be directed at the owners, not the council. The Tees Bay development was gonna bring good shops and jobs. Shame on the council officers who recommended refusal, and shame on the councillors who voted against it.


I agree surely if we can get the Tees bay Development to have decent shop in it may attract better shops to come to the town centre. Think I'm going to bank to see if I can open a 50p shop in the town centre and put the poundshops out of business :D


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I don't see the problem with pound shops me like, they sell stuff that is sold in other shops, but cheaper.

Whats the problem?

People would complain if there wasn't shops that sold stuff for cheap.

I'm all for the pound shops, i got 8 blank cd's from there the other 2, 5 cans of cheap red bull, a big bag of 12 Frisps, a big tub of cooling gel for my aching limbs.

everything a sodding pound too, jackpot!

EMBRACE THIS NEW POUND SHOP REVOLUTION!

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It'll stay that way compo, i'm telling yer shopping centres are a dying breed.

You want a cd, you download it or go on play.com, or you can get it in the asda with your shopping.

Same goes for dvd's, computer games, house good, electrical goods, books, gardening equipment etc


But the supermarkets are eroding any real choice that you have over what to buy. With every greengrocers, bookshop and hardware shop that closes down, the less variety you have to choose from. Pretty soon you'll only be able to buy what the CEO of WalMart or Tesco says you can buy.

People need to start looking at the bigger picture instead of walking round the supermarkets like hordes of zombies loading their trollies with every 2 for 1 going. I avoid shopping in them wherever possible.

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Antisocial wrote:
Cornelius Atweasle wrote:
Middleton Grange shopping centre is privately owned. Your questions on why it's so sh*te should be directed at the owners, not the council. The Tees Bay development was gonna bring good shops and jobs. Shame on the council officers who recommended refusal, and shame on the councillors who voted against it.



I agree with all except it having nothing to do with the council.

I think it has everything to do with the council, as I feel part of the reason it is so empty is that the business rates are sky high there, and that puts people off having a shop there.


Not forgeting all the other business premises around the town sitting empty..


The rates for renting a shop in the shopping centre are not set by the council, but the company who owns the centre itself.

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 Post subject: Re: Do councillors want Hartlepool to stay an eyesore
PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:16 pm 
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Mampi Swift wrote:
Yubep wrote:
It'll stay that way compo, i'm telling yer shopping centres are a dying breed.

You want a cd, you download it or go on play.com, or you can get it in the asda with your shopping.

Same goes for dvd's, computer games, house good, electrical goods, books, gardening equipment etc


But the supermarkets are eroding any real choice that you have over what to buy. With every greengrocers, bookshop and hardware shop that closes down, the less variety you have to choose from. Pretty soon you'll only be able to buy what the CEO of WalMart or Tesco says you can buy.

People need to start looking at the bigger picture instead of walking round the supermarkets like hordes of zombies loading their trollies with every 2 for 1 going. I avoid shopping in them wherever possible.


I totally agree tippers, it's just the way it's went i'm afriad, as soon as asda got took over by walmart years ago the shopping centres days we're numbered.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:27 pm 
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Yubep wrote:
Antisocial wrote:
Cornelius Atweasle wrote:
Middleton Grange shopping centre is privately owned. Your questions on why it's so sh*te should be directed at the owners, not the council. The Tees Bay development was gonna bring good shops and jobs. Shame on the council officers who recommended refusal, and shame on the councillors who voted against it.



I agree with all except it having nothing to do with the council.

I think it has everything to do with the council, as I feel part of the reason it is so empty is that the business rates are sky high there, and that puts people off having a shop there.


Not forgeting all the other business premises around the town sitting empty..


The rates for renting a shop in the shopping centre are not set by the council, but the company who owns the centre itself.


Spot on.

Big stores attract people from all around. Now there's nowhere for them to go. The shopping centre is too small and the roads can't handle that volume of traffic. Jackson's Landing is a failure because of its postion ... only one way in and out.

At least the visitors for the Tall Ships Race will have plenty of Poundshops and Greggs.


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 Post subject: Re: Do councillors want Hartlepool to stay an eyesore
PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:28 pm 
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no he meant the business rates, which are a completely different thing from the rent paid to the centre owners. Business rates is a form of council tax for non-domestic premises. It is roughly based on turnover, and set at a percentage of the middle two years in a five year period. There is then a multiplier applied to give a final figure as to what you pay. The Valuation Office sets the rates for both domestic and non-domestic council tax, the main difference being business revenue goes straight to Central Governemet, with the local council only taking off their admin charges (which aren't shown but are part of their calculations).
Business rates are a disgrace in this town, as I have been on the receiving end of shockingly high bills.

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PS that is the fault of the local Valuation Office at Stockton, not the Council - but at the end of the day the Council enforces it and one blames the other for not giving you any help.

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 Post subject: Re: Do councillors want Hartlepool to stay an eyesore
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Ok i get it now, my bad.

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They should sell the shopping centre to IOR so they can knock it down and build a new 20,000 seater stadium on the land.


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They should sell the shopping centre to IOR so they can knock it down and build a new 20,000 seater stadium on the land.


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 Post subject: Re: Do councillors want Hartlepool to stay an eyesore
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If those greedy bastad councillors want to encourage people to use that white elephant that is the town centre they could try abolishing parking charges... ffs who's going to go there when they have to pay £1.50 plus for the priviledge of parking for half an hour..(lets face you can get a pasty and do all the pound shops in that time! :grin: )

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Don't worry about the Town Center the Mayor has big plans for it. rolfl rolfl rolfl rolfl rolfl


You voted for him though, didn't you?

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The reason for the rapid demise of the town centre may be the siting of a Greggs right around the corner from the belle vue :shock:

Why didn't they oppose that??

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all the single mums at belle vue said it was an essential for a childs 3 a day.

Thats it 3 a day of sausage roll, cornish pasty and steak bake.

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The shopping centre was a mistake from the start.Every other town managed to keep their High Street and incorporate new developments around it, but not here. i read a report about the planning officer for the development who queried it's viability at the time as no one had demolished their original main shopping street and moved it completely to a new location ...he may have had a point. IT'S A LATE 60'S MONUMENT TO COUNCILLORS EGOS.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:21 pm 
thats exactly what i think,look how other towns have managedto integrate old and new together like durham and york


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We should remember that there were propsals in the 90's to demolish the Wesley, the old Municipal Buildings and Christ Church.... for car parking!

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I'm still not a town centre hater, i appreciate it's going out of date, and it's not amazing by any stretch.

But it serves a purpose.

I got a packet of 8 batteries today for £1, guess where from.

And from home bargains, 6 bottles of beer, for £5.50, white beer, and some random stuff, the old man loves them so it's ideal for fathers day.

You just take from the place what you need whilst realising you can't get everything you want there.

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i don't hate the place, it's just a pity those who own the place can't attract some decent shops, an HMV and a Waterstones would do for starters.

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