Is it time to awake the beast??

I think it is, the odius one who adorns the bunker, needs to become unemployed.

That's a bit harsh on those who'd like to see him sent to guantamo bay

Well are we going to bother or not ..
I feel we'll never have a better chance of getting rid of the little get!

Aye let's. I'll do the Web site. I already have one I can copy off.

wont be able to do anything unless the crossed eye scottish one call's and election soon and i doubt that will happen!!!

And if he did, it would be too late to do anything. The General election is May 2010 so thats a year to get ready and that means that time is already tight.

I concur with the honourable gentlemen....

there will never be a better time for independants to get elected than the forthcoming election...

I'm serious about going for this but we need to orgainise and orgainise now..
I'm sure we've got some outline policies etc but we need to discuss how to progress. Come on lets have a straw pool to see who's in..


I for one says aye!

And thats a very bad thing as it all plays into the hands of the BNP which I can see doing well in the elections. We need to get the idiots and theiving gits out off office not throw away your votes for some other mindless biggoted fools to replace them.

The general election will be held at the latest possible date ie next May as Brown would be slaughtered if they went to the country now. They need the economy to be showing signs of recovery and for the expenses saga to be in the past. I also think they have understated the level of public fury at all of this.

If a PooliePride candidate is going to stand as an effective independent then the platform has to be quite simple ie anti-sleaze, best interests of town above party politics. The candidate needs to saysomething along the lines that "I'll vote on individual issues, having listened to the arguments, on my assessment of whether or not they are in the best interests of the people of Hartlepool".

yes thats exactly why we need to sort this out good and proper.. look the longer we wait the more of head start we give to the nutters and the cheats so who is honestly interested?
Come on we can achieve something for good of our town and country..

Imagine the publicity the first true independants who stand will get from the press almost willing us to take part..

Fill your boots mate, I think you must already have the passion and will to do it so why not a monkey got in last time something like this was done

We keep saying yes but we ain't going nowhere unless we have (a) a candidate (and for that we already have a very eager volunteer) and (b) a campaign manager, and IMHO (b) is the most urgent. I think it obviously needs to be a local person, so it's pointless my proposing myself. It would also help if it were someone who writes good English.

So come on, get your fingers out. Like I said, I'll do what I can from a distance, e.g., webby stuff like this.

Am I alone in thinking that Mayor Drummond would be an ideal candidate for Westminster. He has a track record and has already won the popular vote.

no you are not but he's got a small matter of the mayor's job that he's standing for in June first... If he's not successful and interested in the MP's job I'd gladly step aside...

Better ask that on June 5th.

edit: ah, someone beat me to it

Assuming Pierrepoint isn't your real name I think you should change it to that by deed poll.
Think of the extra publicity you'd get as Albert Pierrepoint, candidate.

Only if he is standing on a 'bring back hanging' agenda.

Enough of this tomfoolery, lets get serious.

Back in the day, we decided to make a record and get it into the top 30. We suceeded.

We began by getting together, establishing aims and tasks then allocating responsibilities. Might I suggest that this tried and tested process isn't a bad place to start.

I'll vote for Dibble. He's big in Hartlepool.

Less not more tomfoolery.

Seriously, web design would be in good hands with Monty.

Well are we serious? as Mr I says we need to start planning now.Do we want to do something about the state of our town / country / parliment? There's no point in bumping your gums complain ing if you're not willing to put your head above the parapet the satatus quo will remain...

So for one last time i ask the question ... are we going to do something or not ??

well what about anyone interested in becoming our mp declaring their interest so we can decide if we can/would back them. as i believe this is do-able

well all the exiles are out of the running. I think mr pierrepoint is the front runner

so do you accept mr pierrepoint so a plan can be formulated

if he squeaky clean and can answer a question like an adult instead of answering the question he wants to be asked (like all the mp's) then he gets my vote.

Also have you taken drugs at uni

no i never went to uni

good answer

Where do we stand? To the left or right?

That's sort of what I've been thinking. It's not as if we speak with one voice.......

.....or even tolerate fellow bunkerites with different points of view, very much

well how about
a voice to represent the PEOPLE of hartlepool rather than the business of hartlepool as we have not been heard for some time now

But WE are the people of Hartlepool (at least we all used to be) and there's an awful lot of variation in our views.
I'm not saying you can't get round it, but whoever stands had better be prepared for some stick.

Thats a good start but we can't neglect business - the people need jobs.

ok sack all them employed by HBC who live outside the town and replace them with town residents.
unemployment solved

*Cough* I thought the idea was to rise above politics?

Look, I'm as eager as anyone to see this happen but there's fook all I can do from here apart from what I've already proposed (which incidentally is more than anyone else has proposed yet).

It seems we don't have anyone ready to volunteer to take on the campaign manager's job, and I can understand a lot of people being reluctant to make that sort of commitment.
It was largely Mr I who orchestrated the last Poolie Pride venture, but being Nottinghamese he's hardly well situated to take on a much longer term commitment like this one.

Mr hangman, why don't you just propose a time and date for a project meeting and see what happens. We can make the announcement a sticky and make plenty of noise about it.

Then if there's not enough interest then so be it. People get what they deserve.

i agree that we need a person or persons to take the initial step of being willing to stand and from there we can formulate a campaign so what about a cut off date of say 6th june for people to declare an interest in standing

looks a good idea to me, anyone who's interested declare their interest in either standing or helping ( as many have said I see one Mr Drummond as a natural candidate but he may not be interested!)to progress this mission to do so now...

I see us as standing for the interest of the people of Hartlepool NOT the party line and therefore I would position ourselves in firmly in the centre...with leaning towards social responsiblity in all cases which is not a bad place to be imo...

As far as I'm concerned the problem in this country is Party Politics. We need to stand as an independent party made up of a complete cross section of views, but with the ideology of doing what is best for the town, and not pandering to the pressures imposed on the party line of national politics.

Hear, hear as they say in errmm....Westminster. I said I'd help in ways that I can, research etc, and I still will. I say go for it, the boat was rocked in Hartlepool before and it can be again.

Surely we would be Left of Centre of the Liberal Democrats

Exactly. I always assumed it was that way from the start. "Left" and "right" are and always have been a load of bollocks. Ask any sane person and their personal views will range from one end to the other depending on the subject. If we start getting into doctrine we're no better than what already exists.
We can always thrash out itemised policies once the thing is up and running. In the end though, the MP also has to be his own man, albeit one who listens to his constituents and really does answer to them.

The problem is this thing needs to be up and running post haste, so we need someone at the helm damned soon!

I concur we need to set off on the journey but so far its the usual talking shop.. Its like we're all in a big line waiting fora volunteer all it takes is for us to take one step back and not ell someone... Look lets do it or let it drop forever along with any more moaning about the crap we have to put up with..

I nominate Mr I to be orgainiser type chappy as he preformed the role quite efficiently the last time (come on John you know you want too).

Come on we need a leader..

I take one strep back last one to do so is the candidate

It's not a candidate we're lacking it's an organiser.
Name a date Mr Pierrepoint, throw out an invitation, see who turns up, and see if a leader emerges. As you say, we could quite simply be wasting our time.
I think the big problem as things stand is we're limiting this to people who read the Bunker, yet we're not talking about a Bunker party; we're talking about something much wider ranging. We're cutting ourselves off from 80,000 or so Hartlepoolies who've never heard of us. Still, you have to start somewhere. I'm sure the Labour party started off in someone's back room one day.

The first thing that's needed is a war chest. No money, no showey. Plus the 500 snodgers ((c)Mutley) that you need for the deposit.

well I'm sure we can get the £500 snodgers (c) muttley from somewhere..

So lets see

Step 1

Set up fighting fund...

Step 2

General Meeting (somewhere subversive sounding in Hartlepool ... Mr Groovy do you think The Studio would be interested in being the seat of the revolution in Hartlepool?

Step 3

Elect Officers and Candidate

Step 4

Kick the establishment in the balls!


There we go any other suggestions lads n lasses??

Oh I forgot... First agenda item:: Can Constituency Season Tickets be submitted on House of Commons expenses?

Pierre, page 5 of the Guardian to-day.......How to become an MP.
You've probably thought of most of it already, but there might be a thing or two. It's quite interesting.