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 Post subject: Match Report
PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 7:45 pm 
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Well MOM was Collins. He was superb! Budtz was also excellent but Collins gets it for me.

The match stated very slowly both teams seems to be happy with a draw and pools found it hard to play any football. The new lad at left back was poor, missed tackles, gave it away and was out of position a couple of times. Monkhouse was playing defensive role supporting Skarz. Both Nardello and Parker wher also poor, unable to hold the ball up and with us playing such high balls into the area they would have needed step ladders to win a header against the crewe back four.

The second half was better, Skarz was better, Collins was class and that bloody new Hartlepool song "we dont care about Darlo" was giving me a headache! Well we played more football on the floor and opening began to appear. We went close twice with a header and a shot in the box. Lets make it clear I thing Nardello and Parker are poor and both deserved to go off. However the booing was a disgrace.

I am happy with a draw and think with a bit of courage from Turner it could have been 3. Robson should have been brought on but I do understand, pretty football may not help us stop up so Turner is forgiven.

BUDTZ 9 Great match.
LIDDLE 7 Solid most of the game
COLLINS 10 Well what a game
SKARZ 4 Those points were for the second half only
NELSON 7 good display
JONES 5 Quiet display with not really any impact. Did he actually play?
SWEENEY 5 Lost in this type of game
CLARK 7 Was everywhere, battled, bruised and tried to boss the midfield. Passing let him down. Nearly a 8
NARDELLO 5 Poor, I know he may have been injured laterr on but seemed uninterested and not thew answer.
PARKER 4 If he was a hire car, I would return him tomorrow.
MONKHOUSE 7 Although he had to defend, most of the good moves came though him
(sub)MCKAY 7 Held the ball, passed and ran his heart out. Should have started.
(sub) RICHIE 6 not on long enough.

Good point and now we need 6 more!


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 Post subject: Re: Match Report
PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 7:53 pm 
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Agree with most of that. Would give nelse a 8 or 9 though, his double clearnace off the line and all the headers he won. Him, Collins and Budtz earned us a point today. Budtz's saves were top top draw! Well done to Mackay today, came off the bench and gave us a threat. Parker and Nardiello on the other hand were a wasta of a shirt today.


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 Post subject: Re: Match Report
PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:51 pm 
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aye brilliant match and non stop song of all we care about is hufc and what was phil dunn argueing about ???

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 Post subject: Re: Match Report
PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:18 pm 
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Agree with most things bar Nardiello. I'd have given him a 6. He made some good turns to go round a few players and was a lot more threatening than Parker.

As for Parker, "I like Parker because he works hard" is what I said to someone after the Hereford match. Today he didn't seem up for it.

Nelson, Collins and Butdz were all superb and we've missed that solidarity all season. If they can reproduce those peformances for the rest of the season then we should be ok.


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 Post subject: Re: Match Report
PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:22 pm 
I thought Parker was one of our better players in the first half, his confidence is very low he desperately needs a goal, the worry is since he since he signed I don't recall having a decent chance to score which suggests to me he drops too deep in search of the ball.


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 Post subject: Re: Match Report
PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:32 pm 
So Budtz was Brilliant....dropped next game then!!!! confised :wink: :grin:


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 Post subject: Re: Match Report
PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:43 pm 
ElvisAintDead wrote:
peterleepoolie wrote:
aye brilliant match and non stop song of all we care about is hufc and what was phil dunn argueing about ???


I was putting some rarf right who booed our own players at 2 consecutive substitutions.



Good on you ECG, how the fook do they get off on booing their own players

Fair enough, question a players commitment on here, but honestly, it bubbles my urine, it really does!


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 Post subject: Re: Match Report
PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:44 pm 
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ElvisAintDead wrote:
peterleepoolie wrote:
aye brilliant match and non stop song of all we care about is hufc and what was phil dunn argueing about ???


I was putting some rarf right who booed our own players at 2 consecutive substitutions.


Was that you :laugh: We heard you from the other end!!


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 Post subject: Re: Match Report
PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:48 pm 
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peterleepoolie wrote:
aye brilliant match and non stop song of all we care about is hufc and what was phil dunn argueing about ???


I was putting some rarf right who booed our own players at 2 consecutive substitutions.


Shame one or two rarfs always have to spoil it because the backing was superb today, almost non stop singing, and the players really seemed to respond to it. Sam Collins visibly went up about two gears when his name was chanted, it just proves that support can make a difference. What sort of person pays nearly twenty quid and travels for 3 hours to boo one of the people he's made that journey to 'support'. Dodgepots.


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 Post subject: Re: Match Report
PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:49 pm 
Hooligan!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil:

You give us Football Supporters a bad name!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil:

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :wink: :grin:

Good on yer Mr.Dead!!!! clappp :grin:


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 Post subject: Re: Match Report
PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:57 pm 
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Can we not chant Sam Collins name every week? I enjoyed it. :grin:

Besides if it helps him play like that....


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 Post subject: Re: Match Report
PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:07 pm 
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TalbotAvenger wrote:
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peterleepoolie wrote:
aye brilliant match and non stop song of all we care about is hufc and what was phil dunn argueing about ???


I was putting some rarf right who booed our own players at 2 consecutive substitutions.



Good on you ECG, how the fook do they get off on booing their own players

Fair enough, question a players commitment on here, but honestly, it bubbles my urine, it really does!


So are you saying its ok to criticise a player behind their backs (ie on here) but not so they could hear it at the game?

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 Post subject: Re: Match Report
PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:10 pm 
There is a difference between questioning a players performance after the match on here and booing them during the match

There is also a difference to constructive criticism on here and just calling a player or manager a cu.nt


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 Post subject: Re: Match Report
PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:11 pm 
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I won't have it Mutley. People booing Humphreys as he came on...or was it Nardiello on the way off?? Either way, it's rarfism of the highest order. And why go to Crewe to do it? They could have waited till Monday. Gimlets.


Note the.... :wink: ....and the 'Well Done'!!!! :grin:


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 Post subject: Re: Match Report
PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:12 pm 
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So are you saying its ok to criticise a player behind their backs (ie on here) but not so they could hear it at the game?


I'd say on message boards you discuss the team like you would with your mates after the game, yes at times people aren't going to rate certain players and criticise them. If a player can't accept a bit of stick, as long as it's withing reason, on an Internet forum then he hasn't got the mental strength to be in the game. It's not going to affect a players performance.

However giving an individual abuse or stick whilst you are meant to be at a match 'supporting' him and his team mates is completely counter productive.


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 Post subject: Re: Match Report
PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:16 pm 
So how come I hear Kids in the street saying....

'There's that Kunt from the Baths'???? confised banghead

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 Post subject: Re: Match Report
PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:21 pm 
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PJ_Poolie wrote:
Grave wrote:

So are you saying its ok to criticise a player behind their backs (ie on here) but not so they could hear it at the game?


I'd say on message boards you discuss the team like you would with your mates after the game, yes at times people aren't going to rate certain players and criticise them. If a player can't accept a bit of stick, as long as it's withing reason, on an Internet forum then he hasn't got the mental strength to be in the game. It's not going to affect a players performance.

However giving an individual abuse or stick whilst you are meant to be at a match 'supporting' him and his team mates is completely counter productive.


Generally speaking If a player has been completely disinterested and is rightly subbed then I think it is perfectly reasonable to boo them as they leave the pitch. Im not talking about booing players because they dont have any ability, merely booing due to a lack of effort which has been apparent from a number of players this season (if we are honest).

I was not at todays game so I am not able to comment on what happened there. If someone was booing the subbed players unduly then fair enough if other supporters want to have a go at them but to say its wrong to ever boo your own players is complete and utter nonsense. There will be times when it is warranted and it does not mean that you are not a supporter should you boo.

If the fans were to cheer bad performances then it simply encourages complacency surely.

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 Post subject: Re: Match Report
PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:24 pm 
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Heard the match on Pools World - the lads really performed well today by the sounds of it, great desire and determination and dug deep when it was nailbiting. Well done all! clappp

One of the greatest celebrations in our house of a 0-0 draw for ages ! :grin:

I thought Budtz and the defence were exceptional today. :grin:

I am getting more convinced that we stay in this division. :wink:

The only thing I'm concerned about is how longer Ritchie Humphries has a future at Hartlepool as a first team player - a couple of years ago, him coming on as a substitute would have been unimaginable.


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 Post subject: Re: Match Report
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Poolie of Kent wrote:

The only thing I'm concerned about is how longer Ritchie Humphries has a future at Hartlepool as a first team player - a couple of years ago, him coming on as a substitute would have been unimaginable.


What is there to be 'concerned about'? If he aint good enough then he doesnt get played. You make it sound like he is above the team or something.

I would be more concerned if he gets a game every match because of who he is

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 Post subject: Re: Match Report
PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:30 pm 
Grave wrote:
Poolie of Kent wrote:

The only thing I'm concerned about is how longer Ritchie Humphries has a future at Hartlepool as a first team player - a couple of years ago, him coming on as a substitute would have been unimaginable.


What is there to be 'concerned about'? If he aint good enough then he doesnt get played. You make it sound like he is above the team or something.

I would be more concerned if he gets a game every match because of who he is



I concur, but he is still going to shite through your letter box in the near future, much more of an affirmative action then just calling one a c.un.t, doen't you think?


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 Post subject: Re: Match Report
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Grave wrote:
Poolie of Kent wrote:

The only thing I'm concerned about is how longer Ritchie Humphries has a future at Hartlepool as a first team player - a couple of years ago, him coming on as a substitute would have been unimaginable.


What is there to be 'concerned about'? If he aint good enough then he doesnt get played. You make it sound like he is above the team or something.

I would be more concerned if he gets a game every match because of who he is


I don't think he's above the team, but then again, I thought he was once one of our most dependable players.


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 Post subject: Re: Match Report
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Grave wrote:
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Grave wrote:

So are you saying its ok to criticise a player behind their backs (ie on here) but not so they could hear it at the game?


I'd say on message boards you discuss the team like you would with your mates after the game, yes at times people aren't going to rate certain players and criticise them. If a player can't accept a bit of stick, as long as it's withing reason, on an Internet forum then he hasn't got the mental strength to be in the game. It's not going to affect a players performance.

However giving an individual abuse or stick whilst you are meant to be at a match 'supporting' him and his team mates is completely counter productive.


Generally speaking If a player has been completely disinterested and is rightly subbed then I think it is perfectly reasonable to boo them as they leave the pitch. Im not talking about booing players because they dont have any ability, merely booing due to a lack of effort which has been apparent from a number of players this season (if we are honest).

I was not at todays game so I am not able to comment on what happened there. If someone was booing the subbed players unduly then fair enough if other supporters want to have a go at them but to say its wrong to ever boo your own players is complete and utter nonsense. There will be times when it is warranted and it does not mean that you are not a supporter should you boo.

If the fans were to cheer bad performances then it simply encourages complacency surely.


I can't think of any circumstances that I would boo one of our players off the field, or even worse coming on to play. What possible good would it do.

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 Post subject: Re: Match Report
PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:16 am 
Anyone who boos a player during the game is a 'lovely lovely person' and should fuck off.


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I can't think of any circumstances that I would boo one of our players off the field, or even worse coming on to play. What possible good would it do.


Are you seriously saying that you would not consider booing a player who puts in no effort whatsoever and looks totally disinterested?

Not only does it let the player know what we think but it also serves as a message to the manager. We are paying customers and have every right to give feedback. Simply posting messages on here criticising wont do any good will it unless the said people read the board!!!

..and even then these opinions could be taken as being those of a minority. Such a presumption would not be reached if the fans all vent their opinons in unison during a game.

We already know that our 'manager' sees what he wants to see in players. With no booing he is simply going to assume we all agree with his decisions.

If booing serves no purpose then what is the point in booing the opposition players when they get sent off/make a bad challenge. Or better still why bother booing the referee - something which many people do.

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Anyone who boos a player during the game is a c*** and should f*** off.


Right. I presume it is also wrong to boo opposition players then sctatchinghead

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So how come I hear Kids in the street saying....

'There's that Kunt from the Baths'???? confised banghead

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Are you a Mr mop down there , or the poo catcher ?


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 Post subject: Re: Match Report
PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:00 am 
Grave wrote:
Obafemi Obsession wrote:
Anyone who boos a player during the game is a c*** and should f*** off.


Right. I presume it is also wrong to boo opposition players then sctatchinghead


No Grave, you are getting confused. Booing is aimed at the opposition and the referee, not at your team. It's called SUPPORT. Look it up in the dictionary if you don't believe me.


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and the award for speaking the most rubbish goes to........Grave!


How many players over the last few year have seriously deserved to be booed for a lack of effort? People like you assume a lack of confidence or a lack of skill means they are disinterested. in no way shape or form can you ever accuse humphreys of ever giving any less than 100 percent.

Booing is wrong simply because players know when they have had a bad game and if you single players out then it will only serve to destroy their confidence.

i have only ever booed once ever and it came at half time of the hereford match after the performance of our defense. I was rightly shot down by several people around me.

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This might come as a suprise but I am not Humphreys biggest fan. Even so, in terms on on field activities he has very rarely deserved to be booed. I was completely baffled as to who or why the booing was all about yesterday.

Incidentally, hats off to Mr Elvis on his committment to the seventies revival yesterday, even down to bringing back 'Poolie aggro'!


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it came as a complete surprise to me - we needed the fans to back the team for 90 minutes, most did but some didn't. I wonder if the boo-ers sang anything at all

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Top quality toe to toe in Gresty Road away end yesterday! No fcker was getting past me though cos I'm rock ard!! :laugh:

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