All of Englands layabouts, punks ,hippys and pok's classmates are kicking off in London at the moment over wealthy people

go out and get a job would be my reply

why is it in these demo there always full with students and scruffy gets and not a normal person among them. What have they got to worry about apart from when their next student loan or dole payment comes in. They always seem to love a good demo "oh rupert I remeber the G8 summit in scotland I was there with Bob Geldof"

Get the water cannon on them they could all do with a good wash

Also they arnt doing a lot for the economy with this from the bbc:

Police estimated that up to 4,000 protesters had gathered in the City of London. Police leave during the summit has been cancelled and six police forces are involved in the £7.5m security plan.

That's a canny armoured vehicle they've manged to get their hands on, it looks real...
..... bloddy hell it is real!

Over to Mr I to confirm...is it genuine? Is it a Saracen? And where on earth have they managed to get one of those from?

By the way, has anyone seen Mr I today?

I wonder how much the miners strike cost to police all those years ago?

Miss.

B5.

See one of them has been found brown bread.

Hopefully it was that crusty with the bloodied face who was taunting the rozzers, fingers crossed.

That American bloke?

You mean, the first African-American President of the United States!!!

That doesn't preclude him from being a cnt though.

He's still a w**ker regardless of colour of skin/nationality etc

Why? (apart from him being a Yank obviously).

Bit early to tell yet isn't it?

I fully concur.

I hope the pig is dragged over the coals for it, typical bully boy policeman. Let's wait and see eh? Another white wash methinks.

He should be sacked and go to jail for a good bumtubbing off the big black men.

Saw it myself, the poor bloke didn't seem to be doing anything.

He collapsed and died round the corner, no doubt they'll close rank and say he was starting himself and say the heart was unrelated to him being pushed over. Had the news agencies not got hold of that footage nothing would have ever have been said.

Shades of Blair Peach, who was killed similarly by a police baton. At least he was peacefully protesting I suppose, which is more than this poor bloke was doing.
But the police always have an answer. Apparently, then, it was Blair's fault for having an unusually thin skull.

Clearer footage on the Guardian website....

http://www.guardian.co.uk

I havent seen that until now and its is shocking the bloke was minding his own buisness and just got "attacked" is that was the other way round the man would be in jail facing manslaughter charges

Let the media start by calling a spade a spade. The attack was a crime.

Whether it gets to be a whitewash or not depends on whether the public (the G20 protesters or any other current of opinion) is prepared to make an issue of it.
I've seen similar protests in France over police crimes and they eventually led to the perpetrator being seriously condemned. Once you get a pig to stand trial before a jury, no amount of whitewashing can overturn the jury's verdict.

It seems the reaction not only from bloggers but politicians from all parties has been favourable so far. Even Boris Johnson has expressed his 'serious concerns' about the footage. It would totally sicken me for there to occur something along the lines of what happened during the Jean Charles de Menezes trial; CCTV footage 'disappearing', officers lying etc. However, I wouldn't put it past the Met.

I've seen similar protests in France over police crimes and they eventually led to the perpetrator being seriously condemned. Once you get a pig to stand trial before a jury, no amount of whitewashing can overturn the jury's verdict.

We will be able to see this with our own eyes in the next day or two when the jury brings the verdict in of the cop who killed the innocent 16 year old school girl who was just crossing the road.

Just because the pigs work in law enforcement they seem to think they make their owns laws.

ACAB

I agree with all the comments but in this case one bad apple doesnt ruin the bunch. I think in general the police do a great job and in every occupation you get idiots who skive, cause trouble and who people who work with them cant understand how they can keep their jobs. Its highlighted cases like this one involving clearly a power hungry idiot who thinks they can take the law into their own hands that cause such bad publicity for the police.

I'm sick of telling you lot

ACAB

You know which part of my council tax had the highest increase

The old bill, thats who

Full pension, too lazy to get out of their nice warm police cars to scatter the little shithouses who continually break bottles, drop litter and generally cause a nuisance on a Friday night in any give town

Didn't a copper who was on 10 years sick leave(slight exaggeration) get caught either reffing a Pools game or running one of the lines?

'One Bad Apple'....

Thing is Mr.Compo that type of stuff would have and will have been happening all day by the boys in blue....we all know what they can get like at Football!!!!

I was at Halifax when the police over reacted to us standing in the little "alley" between they away and home end beacuse they over booked as it was on sky and thinking that they had saftey form for the new away end. However when you say "stuff like this was happening all day" granted wasnt a lot of the "force" used by police warrented to the layabouts and treehuggers that we smashing the place up. Granted this attack was uncalled for act to a person who was minding his own buisness given by a power hungry git who shouldnt be in the police. People always remember the bad topics and not the good the police do, apart from that one innocedent at Halifax, which I still blame on the stewards, every time I have come across the police they have done a good job.

'Layabouts and treehuggers' - how ignorant can you get?

I am not being ignorant at all if you read ealrier on this post I mentioned the fact that the majority of people who were there looked like students, environmentalists and generally people who were hell bent on causing trouble, they out numbered the "real" protestors about 8:1. Were were the real people who were effected by the goings on in the current crisis like me oh yeah thats right I was at work.

Compo, how on earth does one look like an environmentalist or a tree-hugger? That aside, people have a right to their opinions whatever they look like and whatever they wear. You don't just arrest them or beat them up because they have unorthodox views.

It seems that a decision was taken high-up, before anything even kicked off that the demonstrators were to be treated as thought they were breaking the law. For instance, at mid-night on April 1st, teams of 'baton-wielding police' were sent to clear the peaceful protestors at Bishopsgate, at a time when Police thought no media would be around to record their actions. That seems very worrying to me.

Sorry I think you are missing my point which is that I dont disagree with people protesting peacefully or having different views to mine, they point I was making that this attack on a seemingly innocent party was an isolated inncodent and the majority of police dont just beat them up or arrest them beacuse of their views.

And with regard to your comment about decision to treat everyone as though they were braking the law i am not so sure, I heard a comment from a chief police officer that they should treat people in that area as though they were part of the demonstration not breaking the law. And lets be frank if you were in charge of the opperation of the policing for the demo, how would you approach your officers. There are lots of demo's in london that are peacefull its the fact it was the G20 and we all know that some idiot protesters go there not to demo peacefully but to go to cause trouble.

This was an isolated inncodent of a whole day issued by an individual and not representative of the police as a whole in my opinion.

Well to be honest we will never know but dont you think we would have heard other people who were handelled by the police in this way as they would have went to the media following the result of this man death.

OK, I've missed the point. So what was the point in calling the protestors "students...scruffy gets...abnormal people......layabouts...tree-huggers" etc, if not to imply that these are people whose opinions are not to be taken seriously???

Dont think I said abnormal people but I stand by my other comments as a mear discription of how their apperence was in my eyes, just like sussex who said that in the first comment on the thread. This does not detract what they are saying and their right to say it as I agree with there points that the fat cats have messed up the system and something should be done, however they majority of the people who this crisis really effects couldnt go to the demo because we were all at work, something I feel a lot of the people that attended their dont due to being students etc so why were they there in first place. maybe some of the people at demo were unemployed due to them loosing it in credit crunch which is shocking.

But we have heard! There are numerous clips of footage and reports on blogs that detail other acts of police brutality that day! As Grabec mentioned, the police stormed the Bishopgate climate protest camp and set about people, supposedly because they knew no media would be around. The fact that a person has died has cast a shadow over the other reports as the media seem to want to closely focus on this case, and I don't blame them. The Met have a lot to answer for, not only for the way they acted but also for their immediate (lying) response to the death.

Mate, students are suffering! I have plenty of people of mates who left Uni last June, yet are still unable to get jobs for love nor money. Maybe it's not as drastic for them as it is for a bloke trying to support his family somewhere, definitely not, but unemployment is unemployment however you look at it.

Totally agrre that something should be done, but the police are not all to blame is my point what about the protestor who smacked a officer over the head with what looked like a massive bit of wood. People have a bad opinion of the police and these sorts of actions do nothing to help this point, however I wont change from my opinion that police on a whole do a good job

[quote="Compo"]why is it in these demo there always full with students and scruffy gets and not a normal person among them. /quote]

And you're wrong in your last post.....making derogotary remarks about people's appearance does detract from what they are saying. That's why the tabloids do it a lot...saves them from having to listen and make informed responses

Havent I just said " I agree with thier points that the fat cats have messed up the system and something should be done," I seem to remember a man who looked like a scruffy oik with mad hair making some of the greatest comments and mathmatical formulas the world has ever seen and a guy dressed in a robe sandles and glasses also saying a lot of sence in India.

So you have. The trouble is you've said all sorts of other things too, not all of them entirely consistent.

Or coherent.

sorry but yes I have, 1) main point that police as a whole do a good job and should be judged on this one innocent alone, 2)some of the demo were hell bent on causing trouble and not all were there for legitimate reasons, 3) i agree with their right to demo peacefully and do agree with what they are saying.

I think that is true with the nature of my posts and don’t want to come across as a git but just because I don’t come across in a coherent concise liberal manor some of the things I said could be taken out of context. I to was a student and know that its hard living on a meagre budget and find work following studies is difficult. Just I feel that the same “crowd” no matter of the aim of the protest always appear to be there.

I think that we aren’t going to see eye to eye or agree with each others points.

He'll come out for a cigarette, a coffee and a press conference

"how on earth does one look like an environmentalist or a tree-hugger?"

I've heard it often enough on here to believe that a lot of people admire the French for always being ready to get off their arse and protest.

Have you seen what a lot of them look like?

Anyone read the Sun today about the innocent By-stander minding his own business blah blah