Unilateral disarmament- New Labour = Old Labour

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Fri May 30, 2008 11:34 am

So in spite of the MoD and all of the armed forces representatives insisting that cluster bombs are a necessary evil in the country's arsenal in order to try and preserve the lives of service personnel, Gordon one eyed Scottish bastad Brown decides to ban them cos he thinks they're a bit nasty.

Wnker.

It's not even as if he's got anybody else to stop using them- the yanks, russians and chinese are refusing to stop using them so he's basically acting like some jumped up little tosser who thinks that he has some sembelance of importance and is trying to get popularity back by the potential sacrifice of British troops.

Total wnker.

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Fri May 30, 2008 11:42 am

Mr Ripper wrote:

So in spite of the MoD and all of the armed forces representatives insisting that cluster bombs are a necessary evil in the country's arsenal in order to try and preserve the lives of service personnel, Gordon one eyed Scottish bastad Brown decides to ban them cos he thinks they're a bit nasty.

Wnker.

It's not even as if he's got anybody else to stop using them- the yanks, russians and chinese are refusing to stop using them so he's basically acting like some jumped up little tosser who thinks that he has some sembelance of importance and is trying to get popularity back by the potential sacrifice of British troops.

Total wnker.

Unilateral disarmament and stopping the use of cluster bombs are miles apart

Old Tory = Old Tory

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Fri May 30, 2008 11:43 am

TalbotAvenger wrote:

Unilateral disarmament and stopping the use of cluster bombs are miles apart

Because?

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22655

I'm hardly a card carrying leftie but cluster bombs are a nasty piece of kit. I've seen them in action and honestly, they are an inhuman monstrosity.

Not only are they fairly indiscriminate, they make the area unsafe for decades.

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Fri May 30, 2008 11:48 am

Mr Ripper wrote:

TalbotAvenger wrote:

Unilateral disarmament and stopping the use of cluster bombs are miles apart

Because?

Because it really relates the context of unilateral nuclear disarmament, rather then cluster bombs

And if the Tories thought for one minute it may win them votes, they would go along the same path

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Fri May 30, 2008 11:54 am

I never mentioned anything about nuclear.

That's just you jumping to conclusions in order to try and deflect from the statement in the original thread.

Are you a politician?

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Fri May 30, 2008 11:55 am

Mr I wrote:

I'm hardly a card carrying leftie but cluster bombs are a nasty piece of kit. I've seen them in action and honestly, they are an inhuman monstrosity.

Not only are they fairly indiscriminate, they make the area unsafe for decades.

True.

But do they save the lives of UK service personnel who would otherwise have to do the job by other means?

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Fri May 30, 2008 11:57 am

Mr Ripper wrote:

I never mentioned anything about nuclear.

That's just you jumping to conclusions in order to try and deflect from the statement in the original thread.

Are you a politician?

No I am not and no

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22655

But do they save the lives of UK service personnel who would otherwise have to do the job by other means?

They do indeed but maybe we'd be be better off not invading other peoples countries. In my view the armed forces are there to defend British people not go off taking control of other lands. We've always come off worse when we've tried that.

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Fri May 30, 2008 12:09 pm

Mr I wrote:

They do indeed...

So why remove them completely from our capability?

The bloke is a Grade A cockgoblin.

Mr I wrote:

...but maybe we'd be be better off not invading other peoples countries. In my view the armed forces are there to defend British people not go off taking control of other lands. We've always come off worse when we've tried that.

I concur.

Cornelius Atweasle · **Posted:** Fri May 30, 2008 1:24 pm

Nobodys Hero wrote:

Why do we need ANY foookin Bombs?

Unless you, so proud to be British idiots, really DO believe that without them, some jumped up Arab state would immediately attack us.

We are a small insignificant island in the middle of the sea.

Its about time we just looked after ourselves......and let other war mongering countries bomb the fooook out of each other.

I love the way "WE" believed the reasoning behind us having US nuclear missiles aimed at Russia installed here.

It was to stop us being bombed by the nasty Ruskies..................... rolfl

Was it foooook you thick bounders..................it was to stop the Yanks being bombed by the Ruskies. :laugh:

Hook line and fooookin sinker.

Fat hippy! :laugh:

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37241

There's a bit of double standards at play here, the present stock is indeed being scrapped unilaterally, what they are also doing is developing a new generation of cluster weapons. You must remember that the term cluster weapon is referring to the means of delivery of small bomblets designed to saturate an area as well as deny the area to the enemy by sowing some with time settings as in the case of say an enemy airfield... the new version will be more discriminating and smarter, is I believe the jargon.
As for them being nasty, all weapon systems are nasty and the one with the best system for eliminating the enemy is the one who writes the history books about the war they won.

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Sat May 31, 2008 4:39 pm

Nobodys Hero wrote:

Why do we need ANY foookin Bombs?

Unless you, so proud to be British idiots, really DO believe that without them, some jumped up Arab state would immediately attack us.

We are a small insignificant island in the middle of the sea.

Its about time we just looked after ourselves......and let other war mongering countries bomb the fooook out of each other.

I love the way "WE" believed the reasoning behind us having US nuclear missiles aimed at Russia installed here.

It was to stop us being bombed by the nasty Ruskies..................... rolfl

Was it foooook you thick bounders..................it was to stop the Yanks being bombed by the Ruskies. :laugh:

Hook line and fooookin sinker.

Thanks for that Henry Kissinger :roll:

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