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 Post subject: Kiegan Parker
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the gadgie touted about by some on here has signed for Huddersfield


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 Post subject: Re: Kiegan Parker
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Bloody hell, I really thought he would be going to a bigger club than Huddersfield!!!

Shame Wilsons on holiday....


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Again our policy not to sign anyone before august the bloody 10th or whatever bites is in the bum again!

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 Post subject: Re: Kiegan Parker
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Again our policy not to sign anyone before august the bloody 10th or whatever bites is in the bum again!



Or the fact he will be on a stupid amount of a wage, perhaps , mayhaps, or just maybe?


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Not really, Blackpool we're at our level only a couple of years ago, why would Huddersfield offer more money than us too?

Ok I don't know the ins and outs of the deal, my point was simply... we rarely ever sign players in the early parts of pre-season, and a lot of the 'better' released players get snapped up during this period.

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 Post subject: Re: Kiegan Parker
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Yubep wrote:
Not really, Blackpool we're at our level only a couple of years ago, why would Huddersfield offer more money than us too?


'Cos they've just pulled in 1.5 million of season ticket sales?? sctatchinghead


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An outsider would think that our fellow centenarians in Huddersfield are a much more progressive club than ourselves wouldn't they? sctatchinghead


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 Post subject: Re: Kiegan Parker
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We'll probably end up with Brandon.


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 Post subject: Re: Kiegan Parker
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An outsider would think that our fellow centenarians in Huddersfield are a much more progressive club than ourselves wouldn't they? sctatchinghead



Or they may think he went to a club that has just pulled in 1.5 million pounds in season ticket sales, have a much larger population and a much larger commercial setup

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 Post subject: Re: Kiegan Parker
PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 6:15 pm 
And a rarfy, belligerent, cocky new Chairman that, once they've swallowed several millions of his new money, will put them in a debt situation that will damage them for years??

Watch THAT space.... :grin: :grin: :grin:


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What a waste of money.
He might score a few goals, but the bloke lives the lifestyle of David Beckham in his own mind.


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We'll probably end up with Brandon.


I fkin hope not. :evil:

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 Post subject: Re: Kiegan Parker
PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 9:44 pm 
chip fireball wrote:
Gerry Mandrake wrote:
What a waste of money.
He might score a few goals, but the bloke lives the lifestyle of David Beckham in his own mind.


he was released by blackpool so huddersfield paid nothing for him. under what possible circumstances is that a waste of money ?

he is exactly the sort of player pools should be trying to sign.

however with hartlepool united having shut down for 2 weeks it would be difficult for them to sign anyone.

or tell the paying public when they can buy season tickets.

or how much they will be.

anyone know when pools reopen again ?



He'll be a waste of money 2yrs into a 3 year contract when he has scored about six goals

He went to Huddersfield because they will be able to double what we can in wages

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 Post subject: Re: Kiegan Parker
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He wanted over 4k a week from Blackpool.
I've seen him play a few times & he didn't look interested.
He didn't score all of last season, I believe, playing in 25 games.
His last season in league one he scored 15 goals in a very good Blackpool side that finished 3rd (Morrell scored 20 that season), before that 12 - Barker scores more than that.
In 10 seasons as a pro he's scored mroe than 10 goals 3 times, never scoring more than 15 in a season.
& His off-field behaviour is questionable to say the least.
But honestly, what do I know? yawn2


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TickhillPoolie wrote:
We'll probably end up with Brandon.


I fkin hope not. :evil:


Maybe you'd prefer Uncle Mort?

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 Post subject: Re: Kiegan Parker
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chip fireball wrote:
i hear pools are planning a great season ticket deal to fans. god knows when it will be announced as the club seems to be closed for the holidays at present.


I keep hearing stuff like this, but also seem to recall that the last official statement on the subject from KH said that prices would be the same as they were this season.

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 Post subject: Re: Kiegan Parker
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chip fireball wrote:
the general admission prices were frozen, but the accepted wisdom is that season ticket prices will be subject to some tweaking. i.e anyone buying one will be able to get a second one at a reduced rate.


A second one at a reduced rate?

What fkin good is that to me? I only need one ticket to get in.

They can go and fk themselves if they do that, they'll not get any of my money if I'm subsidising other fkers.

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I'm not kidding when I say that I would seriously consider not going at all if they wanted to charge me more than they were charging other people.

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I'm fortunate that I don't have economic constraints to worry about at the moment, although if I had to pay for kids aswell as myself then that would change.

I simply wouldn't be able to bring myself to pay more than other people out of principle as I would refuse to be made a mug out of. That aint an idle threat either.

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 Post subject: Re: Kiegan Parker
PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 12:06 pm 
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I'm fortunate that I don't have economic constraints to worry about at the moment, although if I had to pay for kids aswell as myself then that would change.

I simply wouldn't be able to bring myself to pay more than other people out of principle as I would refuse to be made a mug out of. That aint an idle threat either.


I've told you....find a non-season-ticket-holding-Bunke-regular to link up with, then share the cost. Interested partakers can contact me and I'll partner you all off in the required way :wink:


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grabec wrote:
Mr Ripper wrote:
I'm fortunate that I don't have economic constraints to worry about at the moment, although if I had to pay for kids aswell as myself then that would change.

I simply wouldn't be able to bring myself to pay more than other people out of principle as I would refuse to be made a mug out of. That aint an idle threat either.


I've told you....find a non-season-ticket-holding-Bunke-regular to link up with, then share the cost. Interested partakers can contact me and I'll partner you all off in the required way :wink:


Nice gesture Grabs, but it's not really the point is it.

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 Post subject: Re: Kiegan Parker
PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 12:11 pm 
Only good football will bring in the crowds, not cheapo tickets
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 Post subject: Re: Kiegan Parker
PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 12:14 pm 
No I agree it's not. But when did trying to make a stand with IOR ever achieve anything, Mr Ripper? Threatening not to buy a season ticket will leave them totally unmoved

And, personally, there are now so many issues in the world, that I'd like to take up cudgels about, that there just isn't time for them all. Have to let a few of them pass :evil:


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You do talk shite.

Football is ruled by economics. If you're in a big city and have a big ground there is the potential to dramatically increase the attendance by lowering the prices - pile em high sell em cheap if you like.

In Pools case, last season's attendances were roughly 4500 on average: Now lets assume that the average price to get in was about £15 a game.

4500 x 15 = £67'500

If they knock them down to around a £10 average then being optimistic they might get another 1000 people through the door. That reduces the income to £55'000 a game. It's non sensical, particularly as the extra 1000 is best case scenario.

The people who want to go will, irrespective of admission price. Those that are apathetic won't. The key thing is not the cost of getting in, its what you see when the game starts. Pools last season served up dross game after game, thats why the crowds dropped.

Revenue pays the bills and you stay afloat.


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But when did trying to make a stand with IOR ever achieve anything, Mr Ripper? Threatening not to buy a season ticket will leave them totally unmoved


I wouldn't be "trying to make a stand with IOR". I would simply decide that they were trying to mug me off and refuse to be ripped off in return for loyalty over previous seasons. Hence I would stop going rather than stand next to somebody who had paid a fraction of the cost that I had for the same product.

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You do talk shite.

Football is ruled by economics. If you're in a big city and have a big ground there is the potential to dramatically increase the attendance by lowering the prices - pile em high sell em cheap if you like.

In Pools case, last season's attendances were roughly 4500 on average: Now lets assume that the average price to get in was about £15 a game.

4500 x 15 = £67'500

If they knock them down to around a £10 average then being optimistic they might get another 1000 people through the door. That reduces the income to £55'000 a game. It's non sensical, particularly as the extra 1000 is best case scenario.

The people who want to go will, irrespective of admission price. Those that are apathetic won't. The key thing is not the cost of getting in, its what you see when the game starts. Pools last season served up dross game after game, thats why the crowds dropped.

Revenue pays the bills and you stay afloat.



Much if not all of what you say is true regarding the size of the ground and the potential market.

But also the mental barrier of not getting change from a 20 note also effects peoples views, even if only subconciously.

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 Post subject: Re: Kiegan Parker
PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 12:21 pm 
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But when did trying to make a stand with IOR ever achieve anything, Mr Ripper? Threatening not to buy a season ticket will leave them totally unmoved


I wouldn't be "trying to make a stand with IOR". I would simply decide that they were trying to mug me off and refuse to be ripped off in return for loyalty over previous seasons. Hence I would stop going rather than stand next to somebody who had paid a fraction of the cost that I had for the same product.


Well, OK, but it's making a stand in the sense that, if you partnered someone who hasn't at the moment got a season ticket, you could get in to matches cheaper than you have this season


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Well, OK, but it's making a stand in the sense that, if you partnered someone who hasn't at the moment got a season ticket, you could get in to matches cheaper than you have this season


But why should I have to?

And what if you can't "buddy up" in the way that you suggest?

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 Post subject: Re: Kiegan Parker
PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 12:31 pm 
Mr Ripper wrote:
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Well, OK, but it's making a stand in the sense that, if you partnered someone who hasn't at the moment got a season ticket, you could get in to matches cheaper than you have this season


But why should I have to?

And what if you can't "buddy up" in the way that you suggest?


I know.
You shouldn't have to. But I'm just saying that IF this kind of offer is put in place, then there's the option of playing it to your advantage. You might decide you won't be put in that position and that's commendable (possibly), but if you decided that, then you're making a stand.
In real terms you could lose out in not getting a season ticket under the new rules (you might feel rewarded in having taken the moral high ground, but would that make up for not watching Pools any more?), and IOR wouldn't care less.

Personally I might not buy a season ticket :wink:


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Back on planet Earth, the club has to sustain itself. It's not as simplistic as you make out. If you reduce the admission price you also reduce your turnover. By doing that you reduce your ability to sign better players because of the salary cap.

If you can show me how the revenue is guarenteed an increased by dropping the price then I'll happily concur.


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By the way, this offer is clearly an attempt to increase the crowd and thus increasing revenue. It's designed so that if you entice a friend to buy a season ticket then you both win. The season tickets are up by one and you and your mate get a £200 ticket.

As for existing Season ticket elite members; find a friend.


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 Post subject: Re: Kiegan Parker
PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 12:35 pm 
Nobodys Hero wrote:

Its foookin barmy.


Yes, it's barmy, but if they did it no-one would be surprised.
But in Ripper's case he does know non-season ticket holders...you and Chip for a start. Possibly others that I haven't noticed


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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 12:35 pm 
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By the way, this offer is clearly an attempt to increase the crowd and thus increasing revenue. It's designed so that if you entice a friend to buy a season ticket then you both win. The season tickets are up by one and you and your mate get a £200 ticket.

As for existing Season ticket elite members; find a friend.


I've just said that :roll: confised


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...but would that make up for not watching Pools any more?), and IOR wouldn't care less.


In the short term I'd miss not going to the match every week.

In the longer term I'd spend my money joining the golf club and play golf on a saturday afternoon instead cos at the moment it isn't worth paying the membership cos of the amount of time I spend watching Pools.

Like I posted previously a while back, Pools have been my number 1 priority for as long as I can remember but as I get older my views on that start to change a little.

If they price it right (and fairly) and if they provide entertainment they'll continue to get my support and my money. If they try and piss me about or expect me to watch crap week in week out for a small fortune then I'll lose interest quickly.

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As for existing Season ticket elite members; find a friend.


Everybody that I know who would be interested in going to Pools already has a season ticket.

The idea that there are enough folk on The Bunker without a season ticket (who would want to get one) to buddy up with every existing season ticket holder is probably optimistic at best.

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I sympathise with Mr Ripper, it can't be easy having to fork out for two season tickets. Then theres the cost of travelling up the road every other week as well. Poor luv.


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I agree with the early bird discount we used to have on season tickets. I think that should be re-introduced.


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I sympathise with Mr Ripper, it can't be easy having to fork out for two season tickets. Then theres the cost of travelling up the road every other week as well. Poor luv.


sctatchinghead

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I agree with the early bird discount we used to have on season tickets. I think that should be re-introduced.


I concur.

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Dibble, Pools doesn't operate in isolation, the rest of the league are trying to improve the team as well. That doesn't sit very well with less revenue or the possibility of more revenue but with the 'wing and a prayer' caveat included.


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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 12:43 pm 
Mr I wrote:
I sympathise with Mr Ripper, it can't be easy having to fork out for two season tickets. Then theres the cost of travelling up the road every other week as well. Poor luv.



If you want me to partner you with Mr Ripper for season ticket purposes, you've only to say :wink:


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What have pools got to lose?


So they reduce them for one season to about £200.

And say that it is a special deal for the centenary.

Then they put them back up to £350+ the following season cos they didn't get the expected increase in quantity that would make it worthwhile.

Loads of people would then moan about a huge price hike from the £200 they had paid the previous year. Probably including you.

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For me it is important that we attract new regulars, that we get as many people through the turnstiles as we can. If that means dangling attractively-priced season tickets to new fans then I'm OK with it, and if I want to take advantage of that offer by sharing the cost then it's not hard to arrange. But the important thing is getting the gates up. I personally couldn't give a shite about getting special deals. I'm not bothered about getting priority tickets for cup games, I couldn't care less about a discount in the club shop. In short, I've never considered getting a season ticket to be about what's in it for me.

I've never been convinced by the argument about larger merchandise sales. The profit that Pools make from drinks, pies, programmes must be tiny. The only serious revenue generator on a matchday is gate money.


But what about Ripper's point about attracting new fans at the expense of alienating old ones? After last season, lots of people need a good reason to renew season tickets. Letting newbies have tickets cheaper than regulars ain't it


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For me it is important that we attract new regulars, that we get as many people through the turnstiles as we can. If that means dangling attractively-priced season tickets to new fans then I'm OK with it, and if I want to take advantage of that offer by sharing the cost then it's not hard to arrange. But the important thing is getting the gates up. I personally couldn't give a shite about getting special deals. I'm not bothered about getting priority tickets for cup games, I couldn't care less about a discount in the club shop. In short, I've never considered getting a season ticket to be about what's in it for me.

I've never been convinced by the argument about larger merchandise sales. The profit that Pools make from drinks, pies, programmes must be tiny. The only serious revenue generator on a matchday is gate money.


But what about Ripper's point about attracting new fans at the expense of alienating old ones? After last season, lots of people need a good reason to renew season tickets. Letting newbies have tickets cheaper than regulars ain't it


Well said Ms G. clappp

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You can play golf with me on a Saturday afternoon if they piss about too much with the prices. :laugh:

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Nobodys Hero wrote:
I agree with that as well.

But I am struggling to understand you all that seeem to be supporting the current price.


The current price with a 25% reduction on the old early bird scheme would be a winner for me.

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Nobodys Hero wrote:
I hate being ripped off.


That is exactly the point that I'm making when I say that I'd be livid if I was having to pay more than somebody else.

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It doesn't have to alienate regulars who have season tickets, as they are being given a simple method of reducing their own season ticket prices.



How is it simple if you don't know anybody else who is interested in buying a season ticket for the first time? stpid

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