Interesting.....

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4525584a1823.html

I don't like the look of this.

i dont like the look of this

its simple enough joel is under contract for another year which he previously agreed to if he wants to go and play for wellington they offer a transfer fee pools find acceptable and pools let him go

its not rocket science is it

the pfa should advise joel that he has a contract with pools so its up to the club to agree to let him go

also has joel broken any rules by agreeing a contract with another club while employed by pools

The contract may have been agreed to by someone representing Porter.

I hope he stays because he is going to be very hard to replace...

but joel would have to have given them permission to represent him

He probably did but technically he was out of contract until his year option was activated wasn't he?

As far as i know you can speak to clubs as long as there is less than 6 months to run on your contract?

So if he stays, which is the probable option, we have a striker who doesnt want to be here ! Great eh !!

well was he though he had a contract up to june 30th with a further years option so was he free to talk to other clubs but he will be in jan 2009

all the more reason to play well and make wellington part with some money to get him over there

moore didnt settle here joel has
boydy thought he was better than he is and thought little hartlepool were holding him back
how do you know pools arent paying joel what hes worth

the article the other week about stopping if he gets a 3 year contract was his get out clause
he can try and get away and keep the fans on his side by saying i would stop but i need a 3 year contract knowing 1 wouldnt be forthcoming so he can bugger off into the sunset
given his injury record while he has been here would you sign him up for 3 years (serious question)

Dig em out chip, dig em out........

The club should pay him what he's worth..... FFS I'm sure he's not on buttons and the club has acted within its right to extend his contract or what ever the term is, he signed it of his own free will back whenever

Is it only me that think Saint Joelo might try and fook of for nowt, well it won't happen, IOR will make sure of that

If I'm honest - no I wouldn't

But I would use the contract option to squeeze a fee out of Wellington Phoenix

No point in keeping a player who doesn't want to be here - he won't perform anyway, take the money & put it to getting a decent replacement (problem is out manager hasn't the best record at signing players - at least entertaining ones)

Chip would, chip loves him, Chip would give him a fifty year contract even if his legs fell off.............

If he goes then there will be no tears on my face, tbh aslong as he is replaced (unlike moore) i will be happy for him to move on !! So there is no need to go and dig posts out chip, my opinion hasnt changed.

If he stays we will see him every now and then in between injuries with a bit of skill every now and then.

If he goes though what is the kit man gonna do, he wont need to get grass stains off his shorts when he plays!!

We received half a million pounds for Adam Boyd an absolute master stoke selling him for that after the injury plagued last season he had at Pools, we won promotion easily and Boyd has his Luton contract ripped up at the end of that season, as good a piece of business as you will ever see on Pools part.

We also received a fee for Moore, and Tranmere went through the correct procedure to sign him.

If Porter has agreed a deal with Wellington while he still has a year option here he is completely out of order and would go way down in my estimation. This year option was mentioned by the Wellington boss months ago, and he even said it was 50:50 as it was Pools call.

It is massively different how can you not see that!!?

Unfair that

Joel is a bloody good player - but I suspect there are more problems to come with his knees (hence I wouldn't give him a three year contract)

Ok i'll re-phrase it, Joel can be a great player, but you dont see enough of it and if he doesnt want to be here then welcome to the board !!

Why didn't his Dad sign him in the summer then when he was free agent, surely that would have been a bit easier?? Oh and why did he nearly sign for Oldham?

They paid a fee for him when if his desire was to play for his Dad he wouldn't have ended up at Pools in the first place.

Fair point about family

I would still have a fee though - he is under contract so we are entitled to ask for a fee (even though, on reflection it will not be re invested in new players)

so moores fee wasnt spent on a specific player but we loose £750000 a year unforgivable
you slated moore for doing what joel wants to do
you make out that you are in the know with what players at pools earn
joel should put a transfer request in and do it the honourable way instead of trying to con the fans

I don't see what could be gained by digging out any old posts where people have constructively criticised a player's performance other than for you to say 'I told you so'.

I stick by any assessment I made of any player at any time, if they go on to prove me wrong (which Joel has done convincingly) then that's fine by me. I would rather be proved wrong than right.

the one thing nobody on here knows for certain is what Porter himself actually wants.

to agree a contract with wellington could have been backup to not getting a new contract with Pools. he may be happy to stay with us and may try to discuss an extra year on his contract. who knows?

however i do beleive pools have done this to get a fee. even if its a daft 50,000 its money that could be put towards the fee for duffy for example.

Joel is my favourite player of all time and i would be devastated to see him go. but we all move on, and i would love to see duffy or that lad bishop from bury sign for us.

good luck Joel, whatever happens.

It's possible that Joel doesn't know what he really wants, or he is prepared to go with either option & make the best of it. I agree with misterb2001, good luck to Joel whatever happens.

i was away in prague at the weekend playing in a footy tournament with one of mackay's mates - on the friday he was texting him to found out if he'd been kept on and confirmed that he had.

anyway i asked him if he knew about any of the other players and he said all he'd heard was that our star striker (i presume porter!) had been offered a new contract but on less money...

clearly this is a rumour from a squad player to a mate - so take this post in the manner it's meant - not really sure if them taking up an option on his contract fits with talk of him being offer a new one but on less....

Ian Moore went because he didn't sit well with the idea of three hours training and five hours driving a day. He lives in Warrington doesn't he?? He gave it a go, it didn't work, he left.


But don't let that get in the way of a good, but inexorably flimsy, theory.....

I think this confirms ADG's wind-up theory.
I leave it to the reader to count how many times Craddock started ahead of Porter and vice versa.

Your heard star striker and thought Porter, strange, I thought Foley

Nobody made way for him initially. Craddock started just once in front of Porter.

Cheltenham: Craddock on bench, eventually comes on for Thompson
Northampton: Ditto
B'muff: Craddock starts, Joel on bench, Mackay comes on for Craddock then Joel comes on for Foley.
Oldham: Craddock and Porter both on bench. Joel comes on for Vince Barker after 20 minutes. Craddock plays no part.
Gillingham: Joel starts, Craddock on bench and plays no part.
Huddersfield: Ditto
Tranmere: Joel starts, Craddock on bench, eventually comes on for Mackay. Joel taken off after 84 minutes due to injury.

And that is the whole of the Craddock history.

In all Joel missed 100 minutes of play out of 720 during that period. Hardly enough for him to get upset about.

fook the big nosed little ingrate. two dodgy knees and a shyte attitude. the only thing he's good at is teapotting

skippy and chippy up a tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-GEE

no seriously, pay him whatever he wants and guarantee him a start every week

I want Porter to stay but I want him to be happy. I wouldn't force anyone to continue living at the other side of the world if they didn't want to.

He's no Jack Ross.

The comments questioning his ability are insane.

The comments questioning his attitude are insane.

He has been nothing but brilliant towards Hartlepool fans. There is a good player/fan relationship going on there and this mess doesn't dent it.

But if Wellington Pheonix get their way then it could put future contracts in jepordy as players will try and game the system when they have the clause where their contract can be extended by a year.

"We haven't moved any closer but we're still tapping away." Well Wellington you can stop tapping away as you won't get anywhere as our club is run like a business and believes in the value of contracts. If you think Joel is worth it then start acting serious and make an offer instead of trying to get a feebie.

It's a mess for Hartlepool and for Joel. I have no sympathy for Wellington.

If Porter does leave then I wish him the very best.

Fuck him.

chip !! you didn't.....did you ???