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 Post subject: NELSON
PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:16 pm 
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Is soon out of contract , He has got to go , just not good enough and as soft as clarts .


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 Post subject: Re: NELSON
PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:22 pm 
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Dont just say rubbish!! Why!!!


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 Post subject: Re: NELSON
PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:26 pm 
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Well why does he have to go?

He's had an indifferent season, his first I would say.

He has had 3 different centre back partners, 2 different goalkeepers to play infront of, 7-8 different right backs to play alongside and 2 different left backs.

You can't blame him for being up and down in my opinion.

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 Post subject: Re: NELSON
PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:35 pm 
Yubep wrote:
Well why does he have to go?


Because we conceded 63 league goals so far in 44 matches and he's supposed to be instrumental in stopping that happening?? :roll: :roll:

Maybe?? confised


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 Post subject: Re: NELSON
PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:36 pm 
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I can blame him for letting his hair grow though. It's more than coincidence that as his hair went up his performance went down! :evil:

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 Post subject: Re: NELSON
PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:53 pm 
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it reminds me a bit of Linda Lovelace. She was always up and down.

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 Post subject: Re: NELSON
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Pooliekev wrote:
Yubep wrote:
Well why does he have to go?


Because we conceded 63 league goals so far in 44 matches and he's supposed to be instrumental in stopping that happening?? :roll: :roll:

Maybe?? confised


Is he responsible for every single goal conceded like?

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 Post subject: Re: NELSON
PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:10 pm 
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Nelson is a quality centre half and paired consistantly with Ben Clark he's even better. This is not where our defensive problems are. As I and others keep repeating; we do not possess a decent full back so the likes of Nelson gets pulled out of position to cover for the inadequacies of others. I suspect he doesn't trust the goalie either so we get the same effect.


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 Post subject: Re: NELSON
PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:17 pm 
Yubep wrote:
Pooliekev wrote:
Yubep wrote:
Well why does he have to go?


Because we conceded 63 league goals so far in 44 matches and he's supposed to be instrumental in stopping that happening?? :roll: :roll:

Maybe?? confised


Is he responsible for every single goal conceded like?


Of course not. But his job description must contain the phrase 'stop the opposition scoring goals.' :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: NELSON
PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:30 pm 
I think it's worth reading more into these quotes from Mr Wilson in today's Northern Echo;

"I've learned a lot about the defenders all season and not just them- players who have come back and looked very good in the division last season maybe aren't as good as they think when they step up a level"


"Last time around in this division, the club was relegated and they struggled. Some of the players have struggled again so what do you do?"

Now out of the players left in the squad from last time Humphreys, Clark, and Sweeney have all recently signed new contracts this only really leaves Nelson, if he didn't think those three were good enough surely he wouldn't have offered them new deals? I wouldn't be surprised if Nelson's place at the club was hanging by a string looking at those comments.

He's had a poor season but we all know he's been excellent in this division in the past, he has also had to play in a ever changing defence and in front of cockfingers. He must be accountable for his own form but you can see reasons for it, and I'd love for Wilson to take some responsibility for own his own decisions for once. Decisions like not replacing the Greek with someone with real fingers and splitting up a centre back pairing that kept clean sheets for a half a season albeit in the fourth division.

If we did let him go you'd see a long queue of clubs wanting to sign him that I have no doubt about which tells you something.


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 Post subject: Re: NELSON
PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:01 pm 
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Since he joined us Nelson has played every season but one at this level.
So the term "stepping up" is hardly appropriate. The season we signed him, he was arguably the best signing any club in the division had made.
In other words if Wilson's comment is supposed to apply to Nelson it's complete shite.
Nelson might be less effective than when he was with Westwood but making a step up has bog all to do with it.

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Nobodys Hero wrote:
Players need to go:

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Why?

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 Post subject: Re: NELSON
PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:08 pm 
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I think the main reason he hasn't been in the team is because there hasn't been a spare place for him. I had the impression he was developing nicely under Scott.
But then Wilson got Liddle and Boland and effectively shut the door on him.

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 Post subject: Re: NELSON
PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:08 pm 
Richard M. Head wrote:
In other words if Wilson's comment is supposed to apply to Nelson it's complete shite.


It's completely shite if you apply it to any of the players as they've all featured regularly in teams that have nearly been promoted from this level. I have a feeling he's having a dig at Nelson, just my opinion like.

He wants to have a look at what he brought into the club last summer and how many of them featured in Saturdays team.


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 Post subject: Re: NELSON
PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:01 pm 
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what is odd to me about the rantings of wilson is he says two years ago some of these players struggled with this division last time they were in it
how the hell does he know that
he is a man lost in a a fog of his own making

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 Post subject: Re: NELSON
PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:09 am 
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Nelson needs to stay. He's fantastic when he's paired with Clark, I just think he's Samson in reverse. He's been pretty poor this season but it's his first since he joined the club - even when we went down he was pretty good.

I think Ronaldo's not taking everything into account. There's no confidence in the keeper and it shows. I'd keep Arran as a back up and train him up but I also think we need a better goalkeeping coach. And, of course, a decent keeper.


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 Post subject: Re: NELSON
PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:33 pm 
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The play offs were three years ago. Players deteriorate as we can clearly see from our squad so what they could do in 2005 isn't relevant in my book.

The squad wasn't good enough in 2006 to stay in this league, we went down but were good enough to come straight back up. In my book this is more a relection of the poor quality of Div 4 rather than our players suddenly becoming world class. Back in Div 3 again and a lot of the same players are struggling. How can you come to any other conclusion than they are not good enough?

Nelson isn't a problem, he's trying to carry a poor goalkeeper and two poor full backs.


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 Post subject: Re: NELSON
PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:49 pm 
Mr I wrote:

Nelson isn't a problem, he's trying to carry a poor goalkeeper and two poor full backs.


You're almost getting to Jonny on Spot levels with your digs at Humphreys!! :laugh:

Humphreys isn't a left back, but I reckon he does a pretty decent job personally, I can only remember witnessing one 'nightmare' from RH this season and that was at Doncaster when he had no protection with Foley on the left wing. Nelson has had a far worse season in terms of his own performance than Humphreys, having a poor full back doesn't make you hack the ball anywhere or make basic errors. There are reasons but he has to be accountable for his own performance.

At the of day I'd again blame the manager he's the one who's had midfielders playing full back all season, I wouldn't slate the lads who have been asked to do a job in that position. McCunnie who was overrated in that position earlier in the season is also as much of a midfielder playing full back as Sweeney has been.

Oh and he did sign and start the season with a left back......Robbie Elliott. Enough said.


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 Post subject: Re: NELSON
PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:04 pm 
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You've just answered your own point; he's not a left back. Thats exactly what I'm saying, he's a make do left back and as such is very limited. In midfield he's a far better option but as a full back, ok for league 2 but not league 1.

By the way, Elliott has never been a full back.


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 Post subject: Re: NELSON
PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:26 pm 
Mr I wrote:
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By the way, Elliott has never been a full back.


He was about ten years ago at Newcastle and Bolton, it's been a long time since he has regularly played in that position. He should have played a few times ahead of Antwi at centre back as he's never been given a chance to play in his proper position. It is no surprise he's been a nightmare at full back really, but that's what Wilson signed him as he's played in that position from the outset.


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 Post subject: Re: NELSON
PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:50 pm 
Michael Nelson. Quite simply THE best signing ever made by Hartlepool United. rolf


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 Post subject: Re: NELSON
PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:20 pm 
the problem is the manager, not nelson, all will be sorted for next season.


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 Post subject: Re: NELSON
PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:43 pm 
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With some of the line ups this season especially at the back you can not blame michael nelson even though he could of done better on certain occasions Nelse has been a good servant to this club and has been instrumental at times he deserves to stay at the club even if he is a back up to clark and collins (if they keep themselves fit :roll: ) if not there is no one at this club id rather have center back with clark or sam than nelson and if nelsons performances improve for next season maybe back in the first team confised


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