to me what this ten man wall is all about
it sounds like the management are so desperate to get a point away that we forgot to mark the opposition and all 9 players all lined up to block the free kick
if this is training ground tactics then we have had it
if the keeper needs a nine or ten man wall then he should not be in the job
but from what i heard from the ground and on the commentary it sounds like it was the management instruction
UNBELIEVABLE

I heard Jeff Stelling mention that Ian and thought he must have be a wind up.

Since I gave up hope, I feel so much better

i am so glad i am retireing from all this stress

It always looks darkest.... just before it goes totally black.

oh turn the light on mr snowy its not that hard

So, as you you have given up hope, then there is no point taking pleasure in what was giving you pain, unless you get off on it?

Taking a defeat is not the hardest thing to carry, listening to people like you gloat on defeat, frankly turns my stomach, and there are many of you.
Optimist?
Pessimist?
vulture is more apt

You are a an artist of a thousand characters and cartoons, living up to them all

It must be nice in Snowyland

Bet it never snows

Give it a rest eh?

Not sure how many were in the wall and who should have been marking who, but it was schoolboy stuff, they simply passed it past the wall and he sidefooted it in.
Liddle and Porter were the 2 players walking back looking a little sheepish as if one of those was responsible to pick up.
Management decision ? are you lot for real

Surely the management....sorry, Danny Wilson takes training and instructs players what to do at defending free-kicks? Porter looking sheepish as if he should have picked someone up?....what sort of manager would have their most mobile striker back in defence picking up players at free-kicks?...a manager who hasn't got a clue?

The free kick was 1 yard outside the box, dead centre, we have 9 outfield players on the pitch, if the goalie decides he wants 7 in the wall who do you expect to be back picking up or should Porter have stayed up front showing off his mobility.

Yes you should have Porter up-front showing his mobility

If the ball had been cleared by Pools upfield, who better to get hold of it and hold it up waiting for the support?

Is that you Danny

I could say the same to you.... blind optimism tends to 'smart' after a while ....
As for Snowyland...? when it rains we put up an umbrella, we don't try and ignore it and hope the sun will come out.
Tell you what....if you don't like my posts, put a poll up and if I lose I'll sail off into the sunset and never go on a board again, I'd hate to be a burden.......

A Poll...

I was referring to the fact that you appear extremely smug when pools get beat and seem to revel and take enjoyment from it.

Of course you revert to the old chestnut of optimism v pessimism v realism as a basis for your argument as if everyone falls neatly into one of those categories and is bound by it zzzzzzzzzz

The only people I know who take as much enjoyment as you in a pools defeat are the Loids

My original post was not meant be a popularity contest not quite sure how you worked that one in

I never used to, but now I like snowy
so there

1 nil

I can feel the football lifeblood draining out of me ..........................................................
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In a series of several comedy goals we've shipped this season that was the worst.

The blame the manager is ridiculous though do you expect a manager to have tell experienced professional footballers that you actually have to mark someone stood on his own 8 yards from your goal It's about having organisers and leaders on the pitch. What's Micky Barron being doing lately? Shit I've just realised I'm beginning to blame the manager as well

john is it not the keeper who lines up his wall
if he needs 7 then the others would have or should have been allocated people to mark
this is a practiced tatic of managers and coaches and they get it rght on the training ground
or he starts bellowing from the side line as there was no mention of bellowing then the manager must have been happy

Hang on Mr Gremmlin, 9 outfield players, 7 in the wall leaves 2,Porter up front touching his toes and doing press ups to show us his mobility in case we cleared it leaves 1.
They've got 10 outfield players, 2 or 3 marking Porter just in case cos he's very mobile laves 7, 3 over the ball, leaves 4 totally unmarked, take your pick which one to mark.

Last seaon I was slagged off for being one of the last people to defend Wilson, even when I was beginning to have my doubts... but it came right....now I'm accused of being a smug pessimist... So it can't be my viewpoint...just my style eh? ..... it can cut, but it's funny how some people come on with a vitriolic outburst against the team and you don't bat an eyelid...I make an innocent comment on this post meant for someone else, you make assumptions and go into attack mode.... as for taking enjoyment in defeat... if I didn't care, I wouldn't bother coming on here in the first place would I..........
p.s it's called gallows humour...

i just dont know what you are getting at here or just trying to be clever but
if we were down to ten men defending a free kick and they all line up in the wall it seems obvious to me and i have never played at a reasonable level that the attacking players would use their advantage and pass the ball round the wall if our attackers were as you say limbering up in the centre circle keeping two or three defenders occupied then it is up to the manager to sort it out in training
ok these people who say once they cross that white line it is up to the players is rubbish
i still say the manager is ultimately responsible for what goes on on the field if he dosent get what he wants from players he removes them from the field of play
his job is on the line if he can't get them to do what he wants then he has to go
i honestly think it is just a matter of time before we see a change in this position couple of games if there is no turn around

???????

Mr Gremlin, the mention of Porter being up front was to a response by someone saying thats where he should have been and not defending, and that it was Wilsons fault that our most mobile player was back defending instead of being up front waiting for the clearance.
As for training to defend a freekick in that position, how can you, it needs to be done at the time by the team based upon how the opposition shape to take it, and it probably would have been if Collins had stayed on, but the first bit is to get as many in the wall as the goalie asks for I'd have thought, it usually is.
I also agree his job is on the line and the results and performances will determine his future.
I personally hope he stays and turns things round because I think he realised early on that most of the old favourites needed to go, but was probably tied by the outrage he'd have suffered if he'd scattered too many at once, releasing Effion caused enough of a backlash and ill feeling towards him! but I think now even the fans are realising it's a whole new team was needed and he's starting to get to that.
The problem he'll have is getting the team spirit that the last team had, because that carried us through numerous games.

Better than half an orange.

I don't think there was a backlash as such when Effion left, a few people were sad to see a good solid player like him leave has he had been a loyal servant to the club and I had a touch of regret over his departure as I always considered him a good squad player.... as for Wilson starting to get a whole new team ...do the maths, he started doing that a long time ago, there's not many of the players from the pre Wilson era left.

oi snowman i was just going to say that
as for getting shot of most of the old favourites he would have been in a bloody sorrier state now if he had after what he attempted to bring in he has had to revert to the old guard plenty of times this season
only sign better than what we have
he could be done under the trades discripton act for that one

Long live Snowy

dear sir
due to the current uncertainty that prevails
the light at the end of the tunnel will be switched off indefinitely