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Montpoolier · **Posted:** Wed Feb 06, 2008 2:31 pm

LDB wrote:

Has to be the worst formation in football. Bar none.

Pools played it at Donny. Stevo did it against Port vale the day we went down.

England under 21's started that way last night.

And Brazil played it 1970 when they administered the most savage mauling there's ever been in a world cup final. Weird eh?

Tax Paying Poolie · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:18 am **Posts:** 9053

4-5-1 can only work if you have sensational midfielders that are far greater than the opposition, Chelsea have done it as they have Lampard, Cole, SWP etc running things and Man U have had Giggs, Scholes, Ronaldo etc.

4-4-2 every time for me. Two decent full backs (ideally not your best attacking midfielder if possible) and two out and out wingers. Easy.

Montpoolier · **Posted:** Wed Feb 06, 2008 2:36 pm

I still reckon you can't beat 2-3-5. :wink:

Richie's Shirt · **Joined:** Sat Apr 14, 2007 9:57 pm **Posts:** 14

errr. didnt England play 4-3-3 in 1966? bbolt

JohnnyMars · **Joined:** Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:24 am **Posts:** 2471

According to the Mail last week we played a 4-3-2-1 formation at Donny - new one on me I must say

Tax Paying Poolie · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:18 am **Posts:** 9053

Richie's Shirt wrote:

errr. didnt England play 4-3-3 in 1966? bbolt

yeah and they only drew in the final! :sweeeet:

Montpoolier · **Posted:** Wed Feb 06, 2008 2:40 pm

JohnnyMars wrote:

According to the Mail last week we played a 4-3-2-1 formation at Donny - new one on me I must say

Seemed more like 3-2-1-0 on the night!

parmopooly · **Posted:** Wed Feb 06, 2008 2:59 pm

Crouch is a stringy piece of piss

norgepoolie · **Posted:** Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:49 pm

MadJohn wrote:

LDB wrote:

Only in England do we have rigid formations that restrict players.

John Barnes and Chris Waddle would murder teams today...............but they spent all of their time tracking back to help out the full backs. stpid

I'd say that applies to the national team more than the clubs. When they run into top-class opposition in major tournaments, the opposition coach just says "hmmm, England. Two centre backs, one better in the air, one better on the deck; two central midfielders, one holding, one attacking; two full backs who overlap, two wingers who track back, one big fella, one goalhanger, zero flexibility, one piece of piss"

The best summing up of the England team I have seen.

clappp

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

did the england u21's win last night?

christ if a 3-0 win to u is failure you must have high standards

Tax Paying Poolie · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:18 am **Posts:** 9053

Yubep wrote:

did the england u21's win last night?

christ if a 3-0 win to u is failure you must have high standards

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Wed Feb 06, 2008 4:24 pm

Tax Paying Poolie wrote:

4-5-1 can only work if you have sensational midfielders that are far greater than the opposition, Chelsea have done it as they have Lampard, Cole, SWP etc running things and Man U have had Giggs, Scholes, Ronaldo etc.

4-4-2 every time for me. Two decent full backs (ideally not your best attacking midfielder if possible) and two out and out wingers. Easy.

Is it only me that fails to see how 'good' Lampard and Weasle eye Terry are?

Hopefully Cap' might be able to coach the crapness out of them, it will be a hard task mind you!

Or am I being too negative and they really are 'up for it' and 'world class'??

Tax Paying Poolie · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:18 am **Posts:** 9053

TalbotAvenger wrote:

Tax Paying Poolie wrote:

4-5-1 can only work if you have sensational midfielders that are far greater than the opposition, Chelsea have done it as they have Lampard, Cole, SWP etc running things and Man U have had Giggs, Scholes, Ronaldo etc.

4-4-2 every time for me. Two decent full backs (ideally not your best attacking midfielder if possible) and two out and out wingers. Easy.

Is it only me that fails to see how 'good' Lampard and Weasle eye Terry are?

Hopefully Cap' might be able to coach the crapness out of them, it will be a hard task mind you!

Or am I being too negative and they really are 'up for it' and 'world class'??

Terry is excellent, a great leader and you can't argue with the defensive record at Chelsea over the last few years. It's a shame the bloke is a tosser really. World class? Not far away IMO.

Lampard is an excellent Premiership footballer but has failed consistently on the international scene. He has scored 20+ goals every season for the last four seasons and is nicely set to do it again this year. The fact he has never done anything on the world scene surely say he isn't world class?

Terry is the better of the two and I reckon if Capello can get the best out of the pair then they have the potential of world class players but I don't think either player has time on their hands to get the full potential of the supposed Capello revolution

Tax Paying Poolie · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:18 am **Posts:** 9053

MadJohn wrote:

Still, at least there is a fine captain in Steven "Stevie G" Gerrard, who gives the ball away more often than any international midfielder I can remember. The plastic scousers in the pub tell me he's world class as well. He's fooking bobbins.

Can't agree there. I like Gerrard even if he doesn't have tendencies to shoot from 55 yards out regardless of who he has infront of him.

His sublime individual performance against AC Milan in the CL final and his goal against West Ham in the FA Cup final against West Ham that forced extra time are probably two massive reasons why the scousers love him.

I did after laugh when he talked about 'his hell' when Chelsea were trying to sign him and he couldn't decide whether to stay or not. I don't know how the poor lamb fought through it!

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Wed Feb 06, 2008 4:53 pm

MadJohn wrote:

Still, at least there is a fine captain in Steven "Stevie G" Gerrard, who gives the ball away more often than any international midfielder I can remember. The plastic scousers in the pub tell me he's world class as well. He's fooking bobbins.

I'm suprised he lasts so long on the pitch with a peanut for a heart

Long legged hubcap stealing bin dipper

Kolley Kibber · **Posted:** Wed Feb 06, 2008 5:05 pm

MadJohn wrote:

Still, at least there is a fine captain in Steven "Stevie G" Gerrard, who gives the ball away more often than any international midfielder I can remember. The plastic scousers in the pub tell me he's world class as well. He's fooking bobbins.

Spot on MJ! The bloke is an awful passer who is almost painful to watch at times. What the fuck is with him and the stupid long hit and hope balls he seems to always play? He also has a tendency to try and do everything by himself, further disrupting his team's play.

BillinghamPoolie · **Posted:** Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:27 am

Tax Paying Poolie wrote:

I did after laugh

Was that a 'Leedspoolie' moment there or a little sarcasm?

Tax Paying Poolie · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:18 am **Posts:** 9053

BillinghamPoolie wrote:

Tax Paying Poolie wrote:

I did after laugh

Was that a 'Leedspoolie' moment there or a little sarcasm?

Sarcasm!

Tax Paying Poolie · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:18 am **Posts:** 9053

btw that Gerrard bloke set both England goals up tonight, didn't he?! :wink:

BillinghamPoolie · **Posted:** Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:40 am

Don't know I was watching a much more entertaining game at the time. :laugh:

Fensy · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:15 pm **Posts:** 6471

Tax Paying Poolie wrote:

TalbotAvenger wrote:

Tax Paying Poolie wrote:

4-5-1 can only work if you have sensational midfielders that are far greater than the opposition, Chelsea have done it as they have Lampard, Cole, SWP etc running things and Man U have had Giggs, Scholes, Ronaldo etc.

4-4-2 every time for me. Two decent full backs (ideally not your best attacking midfielder if possible) and two out and out wingers. Easy.

Is it only me that fails to see how 'good' Lampard and Weasle eye Terry are?

Hopefully Cap' might be able to coach the crapness out of them, it will be a hard task mind you!

Or am I being too negative and they really are 'up for it' and 'world class'??

Terry is excellent, a great leader and you can't argue with the defensive record at Chelsea over the last few years. It's a shame the bloke is a tosser really. World class? Not far away IMO.

Terry is just a thug, yes he might posses leadership skills but as a player I reckon there are several others who should be ahead of him in the England team, players like Ferdinand, Woodgate, King, Upson, Taylor, Dawson

Yossarian · **Joined:** Sun Oct 28, 2007 5:29 pm **Posts:** 801

I'd have Les Dawson, Elizabeth Taylor and Jonathan King ahead of Wayne Bridge.

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