matty robson

[Cowboy]

Not in a minority of one anymore mate!

I think he is a very promising player - but he is most definately NOT a left back!!!!!!!

We should put Humphries back there (unless we are bringing one in) & put Robson back on the left of midfield where he may have an impact

[Snowy]

and yet these same moaners are loathe to slag off players who hide during games or play the ball backwards/sidewards all game.

robson is playing out of position, but thats hardly his fault. he isnt picking the team.

i refuse to boo one of our own lads unless he is blatantly not trying. at the moment he is one of very few players in our side who when he gets the ball you actually think " something might happen here."

theres a bloke playing in front of him who has been anonymous this season.

I DARE YOU TO NAME HIM

[poolpower]

you are right chip we need to do something on set pieces as we look as if we are just hitting it in and hoping
four games in we should have some sort of play worked out on the training ground to give a better option than a cross to the back stick

Dimi needs credit for the ball that he put in which led to our goal
maybe he was as desperate as the fans for us to get something from the total pressure we put on them in the second half

i would give matty mom for that performance yesterday

[mr plow]

Totally agree that Matty is getting a raw deal from the MHMs behind me (although sometimes they have made me laugh in the past).
Matty is a good attacking left winger who at least tries to get forward and make something happen.
We need a proper left back brought in to play behind him, something we haven't had since Mark Robinson in my opinion.

[katcha]

i was pissed off yesterday with the amount of rarfs moaning about matty when he tried a right wing cross - playing 433 he is knackered for when he tries to cut inside as there is no cover from humpty for his left back slot - also he didnt get much change yesterday out an experienced and tough bastard of a right back - he still did more yardage than most and the constant criticism must cease [smilie=pdt_aliboronz_03.gif]

[Mr Irrelevant]

I go along with the majority. I don't have a bad word for the lad but I do agree his best position is on the wing and not as a left back. That said, when called upon he gives it everything which is more than can be said for a good few others.

[Fensy]

During the first half there were numerous occasions when Matty had the ball looking to play it down the line but the forwards first instinct was to go central which left acres of space down the side. If we go back to 4-4-2 matty must be one of the first names on the team sheet as the left winger, he tortured their full back for fun yesterday. There was also a point in the 2nd half when he gave the full back a 3 or 4 yard head start in a 10 yard race for the ball and still easily beat him to get the cross in, I didn't realise how much pace he actually has.

[katcha]

aye fensy, he still did well yesterday against him - when he plays a weker full back he'll have a game a la giggs. he can't be the escape goat here

[parmopooly]

I agree with Dibble here.
Matty Robson is a Northern League player. If you want pace, get Linford Christie in the team. I want someone who kicks the ball to his own team mates. If he can't pass the ball properly at left back, then he has NO chance of doing it in midfield, where it is more congested and he has even less time to think about it. He isn't very bright to start with (as anyone who's listened to Pools World last season will testify) and he hasn't got ANY kind of football brain at all - head down and run. Paul Robinson used to do that, but at least he had the ability to keep the ball and scored a few goals along the way. Neale Cooper realised though, that the team ethic and good team players are for the greater good so he got rid. Boyd and Porter were/are skilful players, but more importantly they were/are good team players. Robson doesn't have a clue what the game is about - me and Dibble are right and the rest of you are wrong on this one, I'm afraid.

[Trapper]

I agree that Matty puts in 100% effort but is that enough to warrant a place in the team-simple 10 yard passes are chipped in the air when they need to be on the deck.
Must admit he has nothing in front of him and he's certainly not the worst in the team.
I hope Porter is not going to be one of these players who wants out when things are not happening for him-we need big performances from our big players. :???:

[Mr Irrelevant]

I agree that we can't live on effort alone but if the rest of the team had put as much passion and effort into the games over the last 12 months as he has then we would not be in the 4th division.

[parmopooly]

ability has to come into it, though. Robson doesn't have much at all in that department.

[Fensy]

He has been named in League 2 team of the week though as a left midfielder as well



http://www.football-league.premiumtv.co.uk/staticFiles/88/7a/0,,10794~31368,00.pdf

[Snowy]

At the end of the day, we had a load of balls into the box and god knows how many corners..... how many did we actually win..? This team may be technically good, but it has no fire in its belly, there's no will to win.

[3Quid]

Midfield:_____Robson____Boland____Sweeney____Liddle____

Boland will bring out the best in Sweeney,hopefully back to the player he was 2 years ago.

[parmopooly]

Matty Robson is SHITE - full stop. Spennymoor United, if you're reading this, come and sign him before Saturday.

[Montpoolier]

Matty Robson is SHITE - full stop. Spennymoor United, if you're reading this, come and sign him before Saturday.

Look can you stop messing around and get to the point you're trying to make?

[aphemia]

Finally someone talking sense.

People can harp on as long as they like that Matty is a winger not a full-back, but my main issue with him is his passing. If he can't find a man (I don't care whether it's forward, sideways or backwards) with all the time a full back gets on the ball how on earth would he manage it when much more pressured in midfield where more often than not he will receive the ball and have one or two right on him.

I agree, he isn't a full back. His defending is too naive and he's not getting any better. His poor distribution is gifting the opposition the ball in midfield meaning we get caught our with men ahead of the ball as we push forward in possession.

We need a new left-back, and Matty to be a decent sub who can come on down the left wing and run at tired legs.

[Tax Paying Poolie]

robson is clearly a controversial subject. someone paid to watch football has put him forward for inclusion in the league 2 team of the week. some people have said he was our best player on saturday and some have said he was our worst. and i can genuinely see both points of view. some of his distribution on saturday was very poor. but he was also at the heart of almost every positive thing we did, and he did produce 2 fantastic runs/crosses in the second half.

my original point was simply that it seems unfair to single him out every week. on saturday tinks and ritchie were awful and were rightly substiuted. brown lost possesssion almost every time he touched the ball by trying to do too much, and the welshman was his usual ineffective self. when the going gets tough some people hide. this is something that can never be levelled at robson and for that alone he deserves credit.

I rate Matty Robson very very highly and don't think he deserves the abuse he gets, but he has to sort his sort his passing out. I'd love to see the statistics of his passing on Saturday, I'd say about 75% went straight to the opposition, some weren't his fault but the majority were.

At least he has the guts to run at defenders and have a go at the opposition, its more than the other 10 are willing to do most of the time.

[parmopooly]

the thing here is, Humphreys and Tinkler have produced the goods for HUFC in the past (yes I know that's gone now, but they have at least done it). Robson has not, and never will do it. Until he's gone and better left sided players are brought in, people cling to the hope that he will turn out alright. He won't. Sorry to say it, but if he hasn't improved his basic ball skills by now he never will. If we want pure pace and no skill, let's get Linford Christie, Alan Wells, Carl Lewis or Ben Johnson in the team. Myself, I prefer players such as Hugh Robertson who could put the ball anywhere he wanted.

[BritishWestHpool]

The ridiculous thing is: I've seen Matty put some outstanding crosses in from the byline on those occasions he's played as a winger and has managed to get there. Ok, he's put the ball in the crowd a canny few times as well. He has the ability and speed to beat a man. He's certainly nowhere near as bad as Istead. I believe he has the ability and suffers pretty badly from confidence. Chip is right in that he gets shed loads of stick, much more than others, and especially from what the players call the "Rat Run" (the millhouse side of the pitch). To have any kind of assessment he needs to play as a winger for a sustained spell, which is something he hasnt done much. A hard forward would help, as would plenty of practice on crossing. Then he could be very effective. If we keep playing him at left back he'll definitely be at Spenny pretty soon.

[Cowboy]

I prefer players such as Hugh Robertson who could put the ball anywhere he wanted.

WHAT?????!!!!!!!!

God help us all

[parmopooly]

so Hugh couldn't pass the ball or hit the target when shooting? Or put in a decent corner?? If you think Robson is better Mr Cowboy you have been looking the other way!!!!

[Snowy]

Robsons weakness is his inconsistency, he goes from brilliant to downright stupid seamlessly. There is a feeling amongst part of the crowd that if a player's 'home preoduced', they have to turn a blind eye to their failings, I've never subscribed to that myself and fact is...we've been struggling to fill the left back position for several years and we're no further forward.

[Mute Witness]

Robson's crossing has got a bit worse this season, when he first got into the team he wasn't too bad. Tommy Butler was good at taking on players and had no final product but he didn't get as much stick as Robson.

Out of the whole team, Robson gets the most stick and it must get to him eventually. If you feel shit, you play shit.

The thing I like about Robson is that he gives 100%. I find myself moaning about players that I don't feel give 100%, such as Bullock, Daly and quite a lot of the team at the moment.

He can cross, I've seen him cross well! Maybe it was last season but he hasn't lost it. There's been times when he's had fuck all to cross to. You can't cross to nobody. Instead of criticising Matty, look at those players who fail to make runs into the box.

[katcha]

it be the formation - he's not allowed to cut inside as there is no cover, so he has to push to the byline staying close to the other line that runs down the side of the pitch, the ball out line for a throw in, what are these called.

[Cowboy]

so Hugh couldn't pass the ball or hit the target when shooting? Or put in a decent corner?? If you think Robson is better Mr Cowboy you have been looking the other way!!!!

I wouldn't say better neccesarily, certainly not at left back which isn't his position!

However!!!!

Robertson could take a corner - yes, he was good on free kicks - yes, but IMHO he was a poor left back, was too heavy, unfit & couldn't run - just my view like but I thought he was a big left foot & sod all else & if you take off the rose tinted specks I think you may agree

[parmopooly]

ok then -i'll resort to using facts!!! How many goals did we concede when the back four consisted of Ross/Nelson/Westwood/Robertson?? His positional sense was good, so he wouldn't get caught out by marauding wingers half as much as any other left back we've had for years!! He knew how to link up with Humphreys on the left side, both when we had the ball and when the opposition had the ball. I think we conceded something like one goal in seven or eight away games in succession the season before last with that back four (just over Dec-Jan-Feb time). If Robson had played during that time, I'm willing to bet that this statistic would be greatly different and we would not have played at Cardiff at all. Our win ratio with Hugh in the side was also very high, according to Montpoolier (who could back this up if he was here I'm sure).

[Mr Irrelevant]

Note to everyone: When arguing your case with statistics, make sure you're not up against Mr Mad John :oops: :oops:

[Snowy]

His goal against Luton was my favourite ever...!

[LeicesterPoolie]

http://www.hartlepoolunited.premiumtv.c ... 77,00.html


Says it all really

[Cowboy]

His goal against Luton was my favourite ever...!

So is it a case of his being thought worthwhile for one goal? Daly gets that used against him the other way

We all have our views - I didn't rate him, good at set pieces not much else my view won't change, Parmo Dibble etc won't change end of really

[parmopooly]

let's agree to disagree

[Cowboy]

Fine by me mate

[Snowy]

His goal against Luton was my favourite ever...!

So is it a case of his being thought worthwhile for one goal?

NO, it's a case of him scoring my favourtite goal, he could have only ever played one game as sub and came on 2 mins into injury time, that doesn't change a thing. The goal is what's being discussed.

[Salty]

it be the formation - he's not allowed to cut inside as there is no cover, so he has to push to the byline staying close to the other line that runs down the side of the pitch, the ball out line for a throw in, what are these called.

touchline?

[katcha]

ah cheers NaCl

[Cowboy]

let's agree to disagree

I am not agreeing to that.

Well go forth & multiply then