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 Post subject: Serious Point Here
PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:16 pm 
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Whilst I may have been a cock at times before, I geniuenly think it's worth sticking with Wilson. The guy took you up, with little money, and in a season when many of you would have settled for a top seven place. He brought in the likes of Liddle, Barker etc who were both key players in you getting promotion.

He has proven he has what it takes, and just because you're on a bad run of form doesn't mean getting rid of the manager is the right thing.

OK, he may well of took a few clubs down, but most of those clubs were already on their way before he took over. He's been there and done it, so he'll know exactly what he needs to keep you up.

Honestly, how many of you would have settled for consolidation this season? I assume most of you would, as most teams that get promoted would be happy for a consolidatory first season. And thats exactly what you're doing now. you've played some of the biggest teams in the division and appaently more than matched them.

Do any of you know how much Wilson has to spend? Maybe he doesn't have the money to bring in the players he wants, maybe he went in for players but they went elsewhere or maybe he's still looking for the right players. I'm sure you'd rather he not sign anybody rather than buy someone just for the sake of it.

Shoot me down if you want, I'm just trying to give an outsiders opinion.

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 Post subject: Re: Serious Point Here
PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:20 pm 
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I'd be happy with consolidation this season but unfortunately we're that little too close to the bottom four for my liking right now.

Couple that with the style of football that he is making us endure and the fact that he isn't picking some of our better players (he can't blame lack of transfer funds for that) then you start to see why people are questioning his ability to do the job properly.

By finally dropping Jan Budtz at the weekend he went up in my estimations, if he could take it upon himself to recognise that Barker is not good enough for this division it would be another step in the right direction.

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 Post subject: Re: Serious Point Here
PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:25 pm 
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Matt staying up is the target for me and if we do stay up i will be well happy.

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 Post subject: Re: Serious Point Here
PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:33 pm 
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msnquaker wrote:
The guy took you up, with little money, and in a season when many of you would have settled for a top seven place


I never believed that anything less than the title would be good enough last season & I still feel that way now.We were let down once again.Danny Wilson does not excite or motivate me in any way,I feel as though we are just strolling along accepting whatever will be will be.We dont look as though we have any determination or fight.Thats the problem.

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 Post subject: Re: Serious Point Here
PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:05 pm 
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he split the back pairing up could do nothing to keep dimi
and not all the signings have benefited the team
he seems to want to pull apart what we had last season as if to say it is not good enough when just a couple of good acquisitions was all we needed if you wanted consolidation
one of his key phrases since he came was
"if it is not better that what we have then we dont want to know" well you either blame him or the club scouts for
what seems to be a few blunders on that front
i think he is either having difficulty bringing in players or he has to bring in old mates old being the operative word as i have said earlier who would put money into a team which was either going down or just going to scrape in this transfer window will make or break him

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 Post subject: Re: Serious Point Here
PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:13 pm 
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msnquaker wrote:
The guy took you up, with little money, and in a season when many of you would have settled for a top seven place


I never believed that anything less than the title would be good enough last season & I still feel that way now.We were let down once again.Danny Wilson does not excite or motivate me in any way,I feel as though we are just strolling along accepting whatever will be will be.We dont look as though we have any determination or fight.Thats the problem.


so we should have been favourites to win the league this year ? sctatchinghead


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 Post subject: Re: Serious Point Here
PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:18 pm 
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nah man, he means he still feels the same about last season, and he's probably right.

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 Post subject: Re: Serious Point Here
PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:12 am 
I admit at the start of the season with the squad we had/got I thought we would have been up there challenging for at least a play-off spot!!!! confised confised


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 Post subject: Re: Serious Point Here
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MutleyRules wrote:
I admit at the start of the season with the squad we had/got I thought we would have been up there challenging for at least a play-off spot!!!! confised confised


Agree with you there Mut. It's frustrating how things turn out though.


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 Post subject: Re: Serious Point Here
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It would be nice if Danny would show a bit of passion and also if he could actually pick the right team. Like someone said the other day Wilson is his own worst enemy because he does nothing to justify his decisions and keep or get the fans on side. Neale Cooper got away with starting Micky Nelson up front in a game before and got no grief because he explained his reasons for doing it.

The team at the moment are massively under achieving and Wilson is the man to blame, however getting rid of Wilson is a non starter for loads of reasons at this stage.


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 Post subject: Re: Serious Point Here
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Jonny wrote:
The team at the moment are massively under achieving and Wilson is the man to blame, however getting rid of Wilson is a non starter for loads of reasons at this stage.


What are these reasons, Jonny.
Getting the right replacement is obviously one,
but I seriously think DW's presence is affecting the players confidence.
They must be as bemused as we are, with some of his selections.

I would put Turner back in charge, until IOR go through their usual long winded replacement routine.
If we don't do it now, the danger is we could find ourselves back in divison 4

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 Post subject: Re: Serious Point Here
PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:17 pm 
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chip fireball wrote:
most managers are keen to get the fans on their side.

i dont understand wilson, and as he explains almost nothing he does i guess i never will.

he wouldnt get away with it at a bigger club as the media would drag the information out of him.

there are too many unanswered questions at the moment and as a result rumours start.


I suspect that more down to IOR restrictions than DW's personality.


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 Post subject: Re: Serious Point Here
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so why should the manager be restricted in telling the fans his reasons for things not working out

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 Post subject: Re: Serious Point Here
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LeicesterPoolie wrote:
Jonny wrote:
The team at the moment are massively under achieving and Wilson is the man to blame, however getting rid of Wilson is a non starter for loads of reasons at this stage.


What are these reasons, Jonny.
Getting the right replacement is obviously one,
but I seriously think DW's presence is affecting the players confidence.
They must be as bemused as we are, with some of his selections.

I would put Turner back in charge, until IOR go through their usual long winded replacement routine.
If we don't do it now, the danger is we could find ourselves back in divison 4



Reason 1 ) The transfer window. if we lose on friday we are almost in deep shit, but if we lose the following week we are up to our waiste in shite. A new manager would have very little time to bring in players to rectify the situation.

Reason 2) Wilson built a good team last year and many people are of the opinion that if we can consolidate this season and then clear out players who aren't good enough to be in a team challenging near the top of this league then we may do ok again. These players are the likes of Bullock, Gibb, Sweeney, Antwi, Eliott and Robson. Players like Richie Barker still have a lot to offer be he needs to be utalised as a squad player rather than first name on the teamsheet like it seems he is.

Reason 3) Although we all feel that Pools are under achieving things could be a lot worse....


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