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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 8:43 pm 
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barker lacks pace up front and he looked absolutely knackered so why wasnt he replaced with foley? sctatchinghead
robbie elliotts freekick late on should've been left to richie humphreys banghead


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barker lacks pace up front and he looked absolutely knackered so why wasnt he replaced with foley? sctatchinghead
robbie elliotts freekick late on should've been left to richie humphreys banghead


Or Lidds perhaps?

Good performance from Pools and deserved three points, was gutted when that equaliser went in!
That fantastic run by James Brown was worth the entrance fee alone and would have been a cracking
goal....... if it had gone in of course!

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 Post subject: Re: pace up front
PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:36 pm 
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barker lacks pace up front and he looked absolutely knackered so why wasnt he replaced with foley? sctatchinghead
robbie elliotts freekick late on should've been left to richie humphreys banghead


Richie Humphreys should not be allowed near a free kick IMO i agree with Smythe give it too Liddle. I also agree with Elliott had his best game for pools clappp


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Elliotts defending wasn't the best but it was still better than it has been in recent weeks, but the balls he was putting in from corners and free kicks were absolutely superb


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 Post subject: Re: pace up front
PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:46 pm 
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Elliotts defending wasn't the best but it was still better than it has been in recent weeks, but the balls he was putting in from corners and free kicks were absolutely superb


Exactly clappp


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 Post subject: Re: pace up front
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so why if they were superb did we not make anything of them
he is not a dead ball specialist yet takes all the dead ball kicks why?

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so why if they were superb did we not make anything of them
he is not a dead ball specialist yet takes all the dead ball kicks why?



like a number of pools' fans yesterday and today, you are ignoring logic in your haste to criticise a player. the fact that no-one other than nelse got on the end of one at least ten quality crosses or corners can't be blamed on elliott, can it ? sctatchinghead

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englishpoolie wrote:
robbie elliotts freekick late on should've been left to richie humphreys banghead


Behave! Humphreys has scored a couple of spectacular goals from range but ninety nine times out of a hundred they fly miles off target.


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Elliott's cross for the goal was superb.


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gremmlin wrote:
so why if they were superb did we not make anything of them
he is not a dead ball specialist yet takes all the dead ball kicks why?



like a number of pools' fans yesterday and today, you are ignoring logic in your haste to criticise a player. the fact that no-one other than nelse got on the end of one at least ten quality crosses or corners can't be blamed on elliott, can it ? sctatchinghead

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FOR A BALL TO BE A GOOD CROSS IT HAS TO BE DELIVERED AND MOST OF OUR CROSSES FROM DEAD BALL SITUATIONS WERE GARBAGE
HOW MANY TIMES DID WE WAIT IN ANTICIPATION AND WATCH THE LEEDS DEFENDERS WALK AWAY WITH THE BALL
ONE IN TEN IS A POOR RATIO stpid

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 Post subject: Re: pace up front
PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:28 pm 
Look you've made him shout now....... :roll: :roll: :roll:

It'll take ages and gallons of Horlicks to settle him down..... bbolt


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 Post subject: Re: pace up front
PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:49 pm 
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so why if they were superb did we not make anything of them
he is not a dead ball specialist yet takes all the dead ball kicks why?



Apart from the goal of course...... FFS


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aido87 wrote:
gremmlin wrote:
so why if they were superb did we not make anything of them
he is not a dead ball specialist yet takes all the dead ball kicks why?



like a number of pools' fans yesterday and today, you are ignoring logic in your haste to criticise a player. the fact that no-one other than nelse got on the end of one at least ten quality crosses or corners can't be blamed on elliott, can it ? sctatchinghead

talk sense man stpid


FOR A BALL TO BE A GOOD CROSS IT HAS TO BE DELIVERED AND MOST OF OUR CROSSES FROM DEAD BALL SITUATIONS WERE GARBAGE
HOW MANY TIMES DID WE WAIT IN ANTICIPATION AND WATCH THE LEEDS DEFENDERS WALK AWAY WITH THE BALL
ONE IN TEN IS A POOR RATIO stpid


but, you dribbling old fool, you were blaming elliott for the quality of his crosses into the box, which anyone without two fookin glass eyes would have seen were top quality.

GET A FOOKIN GRIP OF REALITY stpid


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so i have to take your word for it then :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: pace up front
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but i wont :sweeeet:

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 Post subject: Re: pace up front
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fine, keep posting shite and looking like a tit then.

its your right !!


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 Post subject: Re: pace up front
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as oppposed to your posts :shock:
elliott has probably had two good games since he came
not my fault that wilson likes to sign old players but when they can't compete he should hold his hands up
why do you think he has not been a regular if he is that good

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 Post subject: Re: pace up front
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as oppposed to your posts :shock:
elliott has probably had two good games since he came
not my fault that wilson likes to sign old players but when they can't compete he should hold his hands up
why do you think he has not been a regular if he is that good


that's got nowt to do with why i answered your original ridiculous post. i don't care whether elliott is a one legged shoe salesman from greatham and he's only just taken up football after a long career licking circus dwarves' arseholes. your criticism of him was that his crossing was shite because no-one (bar nelson) got on the end of them.

that, my friend, is utter cack. i know, you know it, and robbie elliott knows it.


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 Post subject: Re: pace up front
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you are still the angry young man from rivals you alwys were
and can still switch an argument to suit your self
i was merely pointing out how many times leeds just walked away with the ball from our dead ball situations yesterday we posed little threat from them apart from the one goal
we could all see it
now if elliot was taking all those free kicks which he was then we got a very poor return from what he did
if that is the best they can come up with after training all week then it was very poor indeed

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 Post subject: Re: pace up front
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dissecting your words is not changing my argument. try and keep up owld feller.

you said robbie elliott was poor because only one of his crosses was converted. what was he supposed to do, cross the ball, leg it into the area and convert it himself ?

reread your posts and come back when you can debate properly.

and for the record, i'm neither young nor angry, except when people post nonsense that neither makes sense nor is, in fact, true.


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so you are just a fan of elliot
so what
we are all entitled to our own opinion and mine is that his crosses led to one goal
and in my opinion that is not enough end product call it what you like
and i repeat how many times did they just walk away with the ball after those superb crosses
must have ben at least nine
but who was counting

and as i stated two good games up till now
is poor too and there is only you saying he had ten quality crosses so we will agree to disagree

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 Post subject: Re: pace up front
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That was Elliotts first half decent game in a pools shirt but he is still rubbish and not league one standard.
Considering he played premiership only a couple of year back he should be walking this league, if he's not upto it he should retire!!

Ali Gibb can knock a great ball in, doesn't make him a great footballer.

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so you are just a fan of elliot
so what
and as i stated two good games up till now
is poor too and there is only you saying he had ten quality crosses so we will agree to disagree


but i'm not a particular fan of elliott, that's the whole point. i'm just defending his performance on boxing day because it was nowhere near as poor a some posters are making out. perhaps chip is right, perhaps MOM is a bit strong. but if i'd based my preconceptions of elliott based on the drivel posted on here, i'd have turned up expecting a cross between charles manson and wayne bridge against croatia !!

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aido you cant have it both ways. if elliott has put 10 brilliant crosses into the box, then barker must be utter shite for not getting on the end of any of them.
when i learnt to play football a good cross is one that in a perfect spot for the attacker to head home.
some of elliotts crosses were well struck but were straight at the leeds centre halves.
you are of course entitled to an opinion. as is mr gremmlin.


chip, i don't want it both ways tho'. i counted probably eight good crosses that elliott put in during the 90 mins. when you learnt to play football, you must surely have also realised that sometimes centre-halves get there first. that doesn't automatically mean that it was a shite cross. barker was undoubtedly to blame for not converting crosses (i.e leeds, swindon, morecambe (?)), but just because all you lads have slated elliott this season, shouldn't mean that you can't give credit where credit is due. it just seems that if its not humphries, its gibb, or bullock, or elliott that's going to get it in the neck. we don't always have to have an escape goat you know. sometimes all eleven players do ok.

i absolutely respect everyone's opinion on here, that's the whole point of posting. however, when i disagree with it, i'm also entitled to reply.


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Unless you are really good at it, a free kick should never be attempted to be placed.Hugh Robertson could do it , The Humph done it a couple of times last year( Obviously flukes) and Elliot may of done elsewhere, but I always think just drive it as hard as you can at the wall and there is good chance of a deflection,chaos in goalmouth or it may even fly straight in. Elliots free kick against Leeds was pants.


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so aido if we are all entitled to our opinion then why resort to insults just because you dont agree

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because i get incensed when people change facts to suit the 'fashionable' points they're trying to make. if you look at it objectively, elliott had a good game. to criticise the lad because his free kicks and crosses weren't converted by the pools players in the box is just plain daft. if you agree his crossing was good, which a lot of people seem to, then you can't knock him for being on the free kicks.

perhaps i did get too annoyed over a relatively minor point, but just once i would like to see some of the longers serving board members not just back each other up for the sake of it, and then accuse others of 'twisting the facts' to suit an argument.

perhaps i can suggest (with respect) that you reread some of your posts and then tell me if i was the only one being insulting.


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Well compared to the Swindon match Elliot was a lot better, a lot lot lot better. I remember seeing Brackers and Robson getting tortured down the left at Lincoln last season but even that was better than Elliot against Swindon. Seriously you had to see it, he had a shocker.

Credit to him though, he performed better against Leeds and although I still worry when he has some actual defending to do his set pieces were on the whole alright but not great.

What I would like to see however is us to mix it up a bit, its like there is some kind of rule that Elliot must take every free kick and corner in a game and no one else is allowed near. At Swindon he had one free kick in 90 minutes that actually beat the first man yet even in the last minutes of the game he was still taking them.

We have other players in the side capable of taking free kicks so why not change it around? Humphreys, Liddle and even Boland can put decent balls in when given a chance and no I'm not saying that those three will put perfect kicks in every time but they shouldn't be prevented from taking them which looks like what is happening right now.

Look at the set piece that Godwin got his goal from earlier in the season. Why ever since have we tried the same old whip it into the box and hope for the best routine? Why do we not change it around at all?


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Look at the set piece that Godwin got his goal from earlier in the season. Why ever since have we tried the same old whip it into the box and hope for the best routine? Why do we not change it around at all?


What about Nelsons goal against Crewe?


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because i get incensed when people change facts to suit the 'fashionable' points they're trying to make. if you look at it objectively, elliott had a good game. to criticise the lad because his free kicks and crosses weren't converted by the pools players in the box is just plain daft. if you agree his crossing was good, which a lot of people seem to, then you can't knock him for being on the free kicks.

perhaps i did get too annoyed over a relatively minor point, but just once i would like to see some of the longers serving board members not just back each other up for the sake of it, and then accuse others of 'twisting the facts' to suit an argument.

perhaps i can suggest (with respect) that you reread some of your posts and then tell me if i was the only one being insulting.


like i said you are still the angry young man from rivals that is not an insult a comment
you have just said you get incensed
it is a football message board no more no less
and other than that comment i dont see an insult thrown your way as i dont get incensed over trival stuff like this
this board is a totally differant place to rivals and hopefully stays that way
as for back up from long serving members rolfl
i will slag them all off that is what we do on the bunker rolfl
if you want an angry debate you wont get it from me
and i have read the thread again and at least four times you threw insults my way
but hey it is christmas and i have been insulted by better posters than you

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i will slag them all off that is what we do on the bunker rolfl


Except Richie though ey Ian, we all know that he should be taking all of the free kicks and corners :wink: :wink: :grin: :grin:


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i never mentioned richie Ste
i was talking about slagging bunkerites off rolfl rolfl

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i was talking about slagging bunkerites off rolfl rolfl


Well that just goes without saying :laugh: :laugh:


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 5:06 pm 
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but just once i would like to see some of the longers serving board members not just back each other up for the sake of it, and then accuse others of 'twisting the facts' to suit an argument.


With respect, we 'longer serving members' shred each other for fun. It's what the place thrives on and the reason we get accused of being a 'clique.' It's because we know each other, no more no less, and when we had nowhere else to go we made the Bunker or rather we watched a poncy moisturised dancer make the Bunker and then beat him up for it.

You're in, therefore your opinion counts, and even if no-one agrees with it you are always welcome to state it. Luckily in the name of healthy debate you will always find a disclaimer.

Also, you will be perennially welcome to meet other Bunkerites and no-one as far as I know has ever maintained a Bunker argument over a pint.

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utter tosh
i would not have a drink with any of you :evil:

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 5:48 am 
Oh yeah, except him. :roll: :roll:

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you mean you did your usual trick
as always when visitors are in the millhouse they forget to keep one hand on their pint
so you sample all the full glasses :laugh:
claiming "sorry mate thought it was mine" :laugh:

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