Maybe I'm old fashioned

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:58 pm

and perhaps I don't understand the law of the land as well as some

But....

Why has the tool in this link been give unconditional bail??

http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/Th ... 3447587.jp

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22629

Agreed. Violent crime, particularly with weapons should not be walking the streets. On the other hand he's not convicted yet so is innocent until proven guilty.

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:05 pm

Mr I wrote:

Agreed. Violent crime, particularly with weapons should not be walking the streets. On the other hand he's not convicted yet so is innocent until proven guilty.

But wasn't he in possession?
In addition if there was witnesses and CCTV footage which showed use of the knife, to me that's enough for a spell in the jug

Warwick Hunt · **Posted:** Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:11 pm

The law is a joke..

If the guy who was being threatened managed to punch him, then he would probably have got a bigger conviction

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22629

TalbotAvenger wrote:

Mr I wrote:

Agreed. Violent crime, particularly with weapons should not be walking the streets. On the other hand he's not convicted yet so is innocent until proven guilty.

But wasn't he in possession?
In addition if there was witnesses and CCTV footage which showed use of the knife, to me that's enough for a spell in the jug

Oh I agree with you but all of those things are for the court to convict on not the Police. Might I suggest Voltaire is relevant here?

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:29 pm

Mr I wrote:

TalbotAvenger wrote:

Mr I wrote:

Agreed. Violent crime, particularly with weapons should not be walking the streets. On the other hand he's not convicted yet so is innocent until proven guilty.

But wasn't he in possession?
In addition if there was witnesses and CCTV footage which showed use of the knife, to me that's enough for a spell in the jug

Oh I agree with you but all of those things are for the court to convict on not the Police. Might I suggest Voltaire is relevant here?

Things have moved on since then....., : I mean there wasn't hundreds of snot nosed little scroats like that one running around carrying blades safe in the knowledge they have a good change of getting off scott free!

I thought the law HAD been changed regarding carrying a blade, if it hasnt, it bloody well should

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22629

The only way this government will change the law is to tax knifes.

The Lightning Tree · **Joined:** Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:30 pm **Posts:** 5804

Bring back National Service :evil:

Dugoutpaddy · **Joined:** Sat Sep 02, 2006 10:23 am **Posts:** 1772

The Lightning Tree wrote:

Bring back National Service :evil:

They just have mate, but instead of serving in the armed forces and learning first hand about rules etc this form of national service means forcing them into work experience and cheap college courses, Which we did in the 70's but really excelled at in the 90s hence the fookin state we are in now rage

I guess I was brought up in a Patriarchal society and we are now firmly in the bosom of a Matriarchal.

If the bastads don't wanna learn through ten years of schooling what is the point of sending them back to college AND PAYIN THE FOOKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!AAAARRRGHHH rage

Fook me that was a rant, :uhoh:

garthwd · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:23 am **Posts:** 791

Whilst I agree in the main with the National Service argument, that scummer who urinated on that dying woman was an ex-soldier so it doesn't always work.

GroovyCrimes · **Posted:** Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:01 pm

Quote:

Gray, who has 21 previous convictions and was in breach of his licence when he committed the offence, pleaded guilty to carrying a blade.

Maybe theres a case for him being remanded in custody.

3pint wonder · **Posted:** Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:17 pm

maybe you could get in touch with our local useless mp to ask whoever is secretary of state this week why scum like this keep walking

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22629

garthwd wrote:

Whilst I agree in the main with the National Service argument, that scummer who urinated on that dying woman was an ex-soldier so it doesn't always work.

He served 2 months before being binned.

Maybe I'm old fashioned

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