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 Post subject: New England Manager - who?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:07 pm 
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Martin O'Neill for me. He should have had it last time.


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totally agree he gets the best out of players and is no sloutch with tatics and playing to ego's

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 Post subject: Re: New England Manager - who?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:19 pm 
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Does Brian Ashton know anything about footy?

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 Post subject: Re: New England Manager - who?
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I suspect Mr Ashton doesn't know that much about managing a rugby team either. Apparently after the SA game there was a 'clear the air' meeting about tactics. According to Ian Robertson on Radio 5, the team put forward their ideas about tactics and strategy and Ashton went along with it.


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 Post subject: Re: New England Manager - who?
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wouldn't you? they're all 18 clem and fit as fook and he's about 5 ft 8 and 10 stone wet threw....I'd listen meself like

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 Post subject: Re: New England Manager - who?
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Sounds like he's a good number 2 but crap as a first team manager. Now who does that remind me of?


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 Post subject: Re: New England Manager - who?
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Mr I wrote:
I suspect Mr Ashton doesn't know that much about managing a rugby team either. Apparently after the SA game there was a 'clear the air' meeting about tactics. According to Ian Robertson on Radio 5, the team put forward their ideas about tactics and strategy and Ashton went along with it.


Er, isn't that an example of GOOD management? Listen to what your employees have to say, find out the problems, discuss solutions, and adapt procedures to suit?
I'm sure Mr Ashton didn't just say "drive yourself, bus".

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 Post subject: Re: New England Manager - who?
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when booby robson did the same thing they said he was a great manager.
all that matters is the end result

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The point I'm making in around about way is that I suspect that the bus is driving itself. Albeit with 15 very good navigators.


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 Post subject: Re: New England Manager - who?
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Mr I wrote:
Sounds like he's a good number 2 but crap as a first team manager.

Stop being daft John; he took over a team that under his predecessor had gone from being World Champions to losing 13 out of 22. Nine months later he has them in the World Cup Final. But because you've read some hearsay article about what went on in a dressing room he's a crap manager. stpid

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 Post subject: Re: New England Manager - who?
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Mr I wrote:
Sounds like he's a good number 2 but crap as a first team manager.

Stop being daft John; he took over a team that under his predecessor had gone from being World Champions to losing 13 out of 22. Nine months later he has them in the World Cup Final. But because you've read some hearsay article about what went on in a dressing room he's a crap manager. stpid



Fair comment, I'll consider myself admonished. :uhoh: :uhoh:


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 Post subject: Re: New England Manager - who?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:46 pm 
Mr I wrote:
Martin O'Neill for me. He should have had it last time.



As long as it isn't an Englishman with 'passion' and the usual shite tagged on the end

Bring back Sven, or if he won't do it Guus or big Phil or someone, anyone but Big Sam or the like


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 Post subject: Re: New England Manager - who?
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Who is big Phil? sctatchinghead

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 Post subject: Re: New England Manager - who?
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Mourinho. Or Neale Cooper.


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 Post subject: Re: New England Manager - who?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 6:10 pm 
Richard M. Head wrote:
Who is big Phil? sctatchinghead



Luiz Felipe Scolari


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 Post subject: Re: New England Manager - who?
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Mr I wrote:
Martin O'Neill for me. He should have had it last time.


O'Neill would be good, but the big question is does he want it? I think he's a bit too canny to take it, he values his privacy and knows he'd get none as England boss.

I think even failing to qualify won't see McLaren gone just yet, so unless he falls on his sword we're going to be stuck with him. It's a thankless job in any case, the first thing you have to be able to do is deal with all the big reputations and egos and get them to listen to you. Easier said than done.... In some ways that I think means it has to be someone with experience in managing big name players, and I have to say I think Mourinho would be an interesting choice on those grounds alone - again, if he wants it. I really don't think that there's too many English managers out there that have shown they can tame the prima donnas, if Allardyce does well with Newcastle he'd have to be favourite but beyond that - who would the likes of Lampard, Ferdinand, Rooney have respect for?

The big problem now for England though is that anyone with any sense will look at the sky-high expectations (ie Quarter Final of WC/EC at the minimum), the way you get treated by the press in your professional AND personal life (pretty much every boss from Bobby Robson onwards has had the knives out for them at some point), and think long and hard about whether it's worth even a million pound or more salary....

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 Post subject: Re: New England Manager - who?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 2:47 am 
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Richard M. Head wrote:
Who is big Phil? sctatchinghead



Luiz Felipe Scolari


And to think he would have been Manager NOW if it wasn't for the thick as feck fecking FA!!!! :evil:
Apparently he'd agreed to take the job after last years World Cup but he didn't want it made public until the World Cup was over....the FA wanted to announce it straight away so big Phil walked!!!! :evil: banghead :evil:


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 Post subject: Re: New England Manager - who?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 3:35 am 
Scolari, I think?? Turned it down last time the minute the press pack turned up asking if his missus shagged about.

I think in a tournament, there comes a point where the team have to take over. I mean how many times have you heard that the coach/manager can't do anything once the players cross the white line?? They got hammered against South Africa and you'd have to be a pretty strange professional if you were made to look that ordinary in front of the world and didn't care. I suppose there was a lot of home truths spoken, a lot of blame allocated and a plan forged as to what they were going to do about it. If I was the coach, I'd have stood back with a grin the size of Texas on my face and watched a winning mentality develop before my eyes. The cheek of that try against France didn't come out of any training manual it came from experience and opportunism. They knew they'd got the wrong bloke at full back for France and they went straight for him and scored.


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 Post subject: Re: New England Manager - who?
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and think long and hard about whether it's worth even a million pound or more salary....


For a million quid, I'd willingly become the most despised man in the country
to quote Spike Milligan," They say money doesn't make you happy, but I'd like the opportunity to find out."

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 Post subject: Re: New England Manager - who?
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Danny Wilson for England

and we'll have Mourinho.
Can you just imagine it
Cech, in goal, behind JT and Ben Clark

Liddle and Lampard in the middle

and

Drogba and Joel up front

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 Post subject: Re: New England Manager - who?
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Although he hasn't had much experience managing English players, Arsne Wenger would be by far the best man for the job. Apparently David Dein scuppered any chance of that happening last time, now he has gone, the FA should pull out all the stops to get him.

Failing that Mourinho would be my next choice, although that would mean Lampard getting back into the team.


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 Post subject: Re: New England Manager - who?
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Although he hasn't had much experience managing English players, Arsne Wenger would be by far the best man for the job.

If the French had any sense they'd have made him their own manager years ago.
Raymond Domenech's feat in getting France to the WC final was a wing and a prayer job, much like Brian Ashton's with England Rugby. If they had Arse as manager the sky would be their limit. Thank fook they don't have him! :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: New England Manager - who?
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harry redknapp please.

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harry redknapp please.


:shock: stpid

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 Post subject: Re: New England Manager - who?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 3:38 pm 
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Danny Wilson for England

and we'll have Mourinho.
Can you just imagine it
Cech, in goal, behind JT and Ben Clark

Liddle and Lampard in the middle

and

Drogba and Joel up front

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


All very tongue in cheek I know, but if Lampard EVER signed for us, I'd stop going

He is a bigger sac de plum then bounder boy Stevie


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