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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:57 pm 
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You are lucky being able to get any sort of money on. I can get zilch on with nearly everyone!


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Wasn't Dave Jones in the Monkeys?

Sounds like a good appointment and he would bring a great tune to run out to.

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Limits with sky let you win a 100 at whatever price you bet at I think

Doubt you will lose you VC account just for betting on that at 16/1 they know they won't make money out of them more an advertising tool than a betting market


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:58 pm 
A regular poster on the other board reckons he got told weeks ago about Dave Jones!!!! :shock:

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The 6 members of the other board probably!!!! confised


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I've edited my post....it wasn't 2 weeks ago....it was WEEKS ago!!!! :laugh:


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Do they still create multiple usernames on that board so it looks busy?

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sure, can't have everyone using the same username, gets kind of confusing otherwise


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Wasn't Dave Jones in the Monkeys?

Sounds like a good appointment and he would bring a great tune to run out to.

Well, you've got a choice of two options.....

I'm a believer......or ...... Daydream believer....... Time will tell. :laugh:

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Do they still create multiple usernames on that board so it looks busy?


It seems so!!!! :laugh:


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I couldn't care less who knew or who before. I just put it up like anyone as that's what I heard and thought it was in everyone's interest. Seems a bit weird people wanting to say I knew all along before X,y and Z.

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I couldn't care less who knew or who before. I just put it up like anyone as that's what I heard and thought it was in everyone's interest. Seems a bit weird people wanting to say I knew all along before X,y and Z.


X, y and z don't know guano. I knew way before them.


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Chip Fireball wrote:
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From what I have heard... the stories of an ex premier league manager taking over is correct. Quite where the money from all this is coming from I have no idea, .


I would imagine there is a fair chance Hignett was on the standard Pools 12 month rolling contract so it may not have cost much to pay him off, especially as the OS states he left by mutual consent.

Jones must be about 60 year old, he hasn't worked for 3 years and his last job didn't end well. He's also only had the odd season in the Premiership and has managed for the most part in The Championship. I cant imagine folk are exactly banging down his door with job offers, nor do I think his wage demands would be excessive.

Lets for arguments sake say he comes in on 2 grand a week. Pools probably can pay his first 2-3 months salary out of the gate receipts from the Grimsby game. It takes the pressure off Coxhall and buys him a bit more time with the fans to get investors in.

And of course there is still the BIG January announcement to come yet, which could be news that we have been bought out by billionaires.


As others have said - if Jones is the next gaffer - I hope he has the bottle to out the owners if there is something untoward going on behind the scenes. Dave Jones would be one of our more exciting managerial appointments of recent years but it certainly wouldn't totally clear up my serious concerns regarding all things Pools at the moment.

I have no doubt there will be a minority who will greet such news with the "he's an ex-Premier League manager so we must have money in the bank" attitude ...


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Got to feel some sympathy for Craig Hignett in these circumstances, even though he'll have known all about the possibility Coxall would tap someone a new manager up, seeing as how he was tapped up himself to fill Ronnie Moore's boots a year ago.

In the week before the Grimsby defeat he was allowed to sign Kavanagh on loan and Rodney as "one for the future," and was still talking about getting a replacement for Curtis Fleming in as coach. That's not to say the wheels weren't in motion behind the scenes before then, but losing to Grimsby was obviously the tipping point.

Anyhow, I wish Higgy all the best for the future. My attitude to him has really changed in the last month/six weeks or so as it became clear just what a pig's ear Coxall and co. are making of the club's finances. Hignett telling the truth about players having to be sold and Coxall denying it on twitter has been on a par with the last months of IOR and John Hughes.

I'm resigned to the fact that Nathan Thomas will be sold before the transfer window closes. Whoever comes in has got a hell of a job on his hands.


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As I said earlier the biggest disappointment was that you didn't manage to get a bet on it at 16/1. sadx


Or has he got more inside info and declined the bet


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How come you now have to be a member to read the other board?

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What other board?

All I know is there are 434 people viewing this one.

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Malcolm Dawes Knew My Father wrote:
Got to feel some sympathy for Craig Hignett in these circumstances, even though he'll have known all about the possibility Coxall would tap someone a new manager up, seeing as how he was tapped up himself to fill Ronnie Moore's boots a year ago.

In the week before the Grimsby defeat he was allowed to sign Kavanagh on loan and Rodney as "one for the future," and was still talking about getting a replacement for Curtis Fleming in as coach. That's not to say the wheels weren't in motion behind the scenes before then, but losing to Grimsby was obviously the tipping point.

Anyhow, I wish Higgy all the best for the future. My attitude to him has really changed in the last month/six weeks or so as it became clear just what a pig's ear Coxall and co. are making of the club's finances. Hignett telling the truth about players having to be sold and Coxall denying it on twitter has been on a par with the last months of IOR and John Hughes.

I'm resigned to the fact that Nathan Thomas will be sold before the transfer window closes. Whoever comes in has got a hell of a job on his hands.


I hope he gets another chance somewhere else because for a few months last season the bloke was a bresh of fresh air and things were genuinely looking promising. I admire the fact that he wanted to try and get playing good football but it's not worked out. I don't know if it's true but it sounds like he's had a tough 12 months in his personal life, maybe that has had an impact on his job? A few bad decisions regarding player retention and signings maybe in not the right areas of the team but I reckon we've had far worse managers have a go at what is becoming an increasingly difficult job. It's started to get to the stage were he was getting abuse and ridicule from certain quarters like that shite on Facebook last night so he's probably best off out of it.


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Think the last 2 posts plus the quoted one from Mally Dawes sums it up for me. Feel a bit sorry for Hignett, some bad decisions and bad luck plus the off field issues seem to have broken him. For me he's carried himself with dignity to the end and we've certainly had many worse managers in our time.

The crew on Facebook are clueless mind, personally abusive and seem to think anyone passing the ball wants binning. Let's hope the new manager gets the blend right, doesn't abandon the football but adds some steel down the spine of the team (if he has the funds/ability to do anything of course)


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 10:01 pm 
Ronnie Moore on twitter, " Can`t wait to get back" :o


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Surely not Ronnie Moore again... Although his Twitter bio is 'GIVE US A JOB' so probably take any cut price wage route back into the game


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It doesn't take a great of understanding in this instance somebody Tweeted him asking how he is and he said 'fine can't wait to get back' he means get a job and get back in football. The Tweet above is from a Pools fan were he says he hopes to come back and watch a game soon.

Nothing to see at all. Moore seems a good bloke without an ounce of bitterness about the club even straight after he got sacked.


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Mind I've just clicked on the bloke Tweeting him :shock:

Sending him his mobile number and asking him to text him, borderline stalking. Unless It's that bloke who got the mutant Ronnie Moore great escape tattoo and he's after a bit help for laser surgery!?


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I'm sure operation Yewtree have got close to taking a couple fairly seriously.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:36 pm 
They constantly slagged The Bunker off on Daz's old board and continue to do it on the new one!!!!
But then every fortnight or so they say let's have a truce but within a couple of days it's back to normal....mental!!!!
You get a few remarks on here about their board and they all have a dicky fit!!!! :laugh:


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As I said yesterday, it was crazy that he was left in charge yesterday, days after the world and his dog knew his job had been offered to someone else. How many of us would go into work and put in a full shift the day before we were getting the boot ?

I know last year when I got told I was getting made redundant I had minimal incentive to work hard during my notice period.

Might as well have sacked him last week and stuck Collins in charge for the game.


Went through redundancy myself about 2 years ago. It was not good - lost staff left right a centre whilst a few of us tried to hold everything together until the end. For that I have sympathy with Hignett.

Giving what's been said and with the three winding up orders, is that the bigger problem the players have? Every summer there is a release list of footballers, some of whom struggle to find a club - those lads being paid late and possibly facing financial struggle in the future, no matter how much they try and block it out, it will be causing them a distraction.

Shame for those involved, with the exception of the chairman, still I suppose he has the skin of a rhinoceros and will let all the criticism wash over him.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:39 pm 
I agree with most posts above....I feelfor Hignett....his hands were definitely tied....good luck to him for the future!!!!

Whoever the new manager is I can't see much changing....so good luck to him aswell!!!! confised


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Pools have spoken to four potential managers for the job so far....


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They constantly slagged The Bunker off on Daz's old board and continue to do it on the new one!!!!
But then every fortnight or so they say let's have a truce but within a couple of days it's back to normal....mental!!!!
You get a few remarks on here about their board and they all have a dicky fit!!!! :laugh:


I was a member of 'IntotheBlue' for a bit and used to post every now and then, as me and the username I've always used. In the end I got sick of being routinely insulted and I mean called a prick and wanker regularly so I messaged Mr Yloop and got him to delete my account. Not that I was bothered greatly being abused by people who didm't know me from Adam it just got a bit pointless every trying to contribute with the 'debate' That was three or four years ago and it was from all the usual suspects involved with this embarrassing shite now. Some people on here don't help granted but it's been going on for years on that side across various forums. I don't know who he is but is that 'Richo' lad he is just about the worst and always has been for slagging people off he probably doesn't even know, and ironically and quite comically that's what he gets dead upset about. It also seems way more of a clique than this place has ever been, they're as thick as thieves (no pun intended :laugh: )

As I said the other day I don't want to get involved in all of this really but I suppose I am doing now but is unbelievably sad behaviour.


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Pools have spoken to four potential managers for the job so far....


They probably want it to come out like that when Jones in unveiled tomorrow.


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Malcolm Dawes Knew My Father wrote:
In the week before the Grimsby defeat he was allowed to sign Kavanagh on loan and Rodney as "one for the future," and was still talking about getting a replacement for Curtis Fleming in as coach. That's not to say the wheels weren't in motion behind the scenes before then, but losing to Grimsby was obviously the tipping point.



Hignett did not sign Rodney 100% fact.

He was signed by coxall or someone else at the club.

Hignett was adamant he would not get a game for him.

Just another thing wrong at the club.


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In the week before the Grimsby defeat he was allowed to sign Kavanagh on loan and Rodney as "one for the future," and was still talking about getting a replacement for Curtis Fleming in as coach. That's not to say the wheels weren't in motion behind the scenes before then, but losing to Grimsby was obviously the tipping point.



Hignett did not sign Rodney 100% fact.

He was signed by coxall or someone else at the club.

Hignett was adamant he would not get a game for him.

Just another thing wrong at the club.


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Has anyone EVER taken a post by Monkeybutt seriously ?


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Regarding the other boards, I've never been a member of any of them and the occasional visits told me why. Most posts are repetitive one line burps and they can hardly be called flowing or active. I call them nodding dog notes, as they're a bit like a private club for like minded people . A sort of cross between The League of Gentlemen and a North Korean chat line.
The thing about this board is it's busy, there's a wide choice of views and everybody doesn't agree with each other, which generates debate. Which is what it's all about.

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Regarding the other boards, I've never been a member of any of them and the occasional visits told me why. Most posts are repetitive one line burps and they can hardly be called flowing or active. I call them nodding dog notes, as they're a bit like a private club for like minded people . A sort of cross between The League of Gentlemen and a North Korean chat line.
The thing about this board is it's busy, there's a wide choice of views and everybody doesn't agree with each other, which generates debate. Which is what it's all about.


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There's been quite a serious allegation made on FB by Craig Hignett's Daughter that the players haven't been paid "for weeks". I would hope she's got some proof, as that is pretty naughty.


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I keep hearing the doubts and concerns about this (lack of wages etc) , but we have just signed Rodney - surely if we were struggling to pay wages month to month; the long term strategy would be out of the window?!


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Coxall quote in the mail...

Coxall added: “We should not even be talking about relegation at this club. I really felt that this season we would be better than that. This season we have had the biggest playing budget for some time at the club. That is why our situation is so disappointing.

Read more at: http://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/foo ... -1-8335573


Biggest playing budget for some time. Hmmm

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Coxall is either one of the most disorganised people ever to run a football club or a massive bullshitter who knows fine well what he's doing. I could be wrong but bullshitting away while taking a good wage and using the club as security for loans seems likely to me.


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MutleyRules wrote:
They constantly slagged The Bunker off on Daz's old board and continue to do it on the new one!!!!
But then every fortnight or so they say let's have a truce but within a couple of days it's back to normal....mental!!!!
You get a few remarks on here about their board and they all have a dicky fit!!!! :laugh:


I was a member of 'IntotheBlue' for a bit and used to post every now and then, as me and the username I've always used. In the end I got sick of being routinely insulted and I mean called a prick and wanker regularly so I messaged Mr Yloop and got him to delete my account. Not that I was bothered greatly being abused by people who didm't know me from Adam it just got a bit pointless every trying to contribute with the 'debate' That was three or four years ago and it was from all the usual suspects involved with this embarrassing shite now. Some people on here don't help granted but it's been going on for years on that side across various forums. I don't know who he is but is that 'Richo' lad he is just about the worst and always has been for slagging people off he probably doesn't even know, and ironically and quite comically that's what he gets dead upset about. It also seems way more of a clique than this place has ever been, they're as thick as thieves (no pun intended :laugh: )

As I said the other day I don't want to get involved in all of this really but I suppose I am doing now but is unbelievably sad behaviour.


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There's nothing like not getting paid to give rise to high feelings. Some people will be more vociferous than others. Some are more prone to exaggeration than others.
It seems sure that a pay date was missed, but from there to the serial non-payment of players is a bit of a jump. It'll all come out in the wash.

As for who signed Rodney, it's pretty clear that if they knew they were putting Hignett on a bus then he wouldn't be signing anybody. That doesn't tell us who did sign him like.

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There's nothing like not getting paid to give rise to high feelings. Some people will be more vociferous than others. Some are more prone to exaggeration than others.
It seems sure that a pay date was missed, but from there to the serial non-payment of players is a bit of a jump. It'll all come out in the wash.

As for who signed Rodney, it's pretty clear that if they knew they were putting Hignett on a bus then he wouldn't be signing anybody. That doesn't tell us who did sign him like.



Maybe someone with a Sheff Wed connection?

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There's been quite a serious allegation made on FB by Craig Hignett's Daughter that the players haven't been paid "for weeks". I would hope she's got some proof, as that is pretty naughty.


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There's been quite a serious allegation made on FB by Craig Hignett's Daughter that the players haven't been paid "for weeks". I would hope she's got some proof, as that is pretty naughty.


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They constantly slagged The Bunker off on Daz's old board and continue to do it on the new one!!!!
But then every fortnight or so they say let's have a truce but within a couple of days it's back to normal....mental!!!!
You get a few remarks on here about their board and they all have a dicky fit!!!! :laugh:


I was a member of 'IntotheBlue' for a bit and used to post every now and then, as me and the username I've always used. In the end I got sick of being routinely insulted and I mean called a prick and wanker regularly so I messaged Mr Yloop and got him to delete my account. Not that I was bothered greatly being abused by people who didm't know me from Adam it just got a bit pointless every trying to contribute with the 'debate' That was three or four years ago and it was from all the usual suspects involved with this embarrassing shite now. Some people on here don't help granted but it's been going on for years on that side across various forums. I don't know who he is but is that 'Richo' lad he is just about the worst and always has been for slagging people off he probably doesn't even know, and ironically and quite comically that's what he gets dead upset about. It also seems way more of a clique than this place has ever been, they're as thick as thieves (no pun intended :laugh: )

As I said the other day I don't want to get involved in all of this really but I suppose I am doing now but is unbelievably sad behaviour.


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respect brother.


Have I got a stalker here!?

With all due respect I did post something like 'wow you talk some shite' the other day but it was in response to you making the hysterical claim that our current squad wouldn't be competitive in the conference. How else would you like me to describe that comment?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:59 pm 
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Great way to cut costs:
Get rid of two players from the wage bill.
Lose the assistant manager and now the manager.
Club now has less outgoings, that should cheer GC up!
Not one penny I suspect has come out of GC's money to run this club.
We now have at least 2 loans set against the fixture and fittings to pay the bills.
Serious cash flow situation, talk of players not being paid, unpaid bills to HMRC. Probably more demands from HMRC over the coming months or so.
Plans about the millhouse development being put about (pie in the sky, in my opinion).
Players playing as if they are not interested and probably most want out, (who wouldn't if you are not getting paid)
And this Plan B was probably to run the club into the ground, get relegated, walk away leaving the club owing lots of money and the fans end up with no club.

Or I could just be being a touch cynical......


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 Post subject: Re: Hignett gone....
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Didnt Jones say in a very recent interview he nearly accepted a job but turned it down late on? Was that us?

I may be imagining the above like.

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