WOMENS FOOTBALL

Smokin Joe · **Joined:** Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:13 pm **Posts:** 1151

Simon Grayson and his new look Pools squad could also do worse than take heed of the benefits of such determination. Despite the promising rebuilding process and pre-season performances Pools will not have anything like the best squad in the NL but such gaps can be bridged by sheer application and determination to win - or not lose - as the case may be. UTP!

dstanley5 · **Joined:** Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:13 pm **Posts:** 344

Smokin Joe wrote:

'England' - collectively - are definitely NOT great at winning football. However, the England womens team have certainly found a way to win tournaments, despite not having either the best team or the most cultured players. I thought Spain were easily the better footballing side tonight but they were absolutely clueless upfront. England to their credit dug in and battled through 90 minutes plus extra time, both sides scoring with free headers. Spain were as toothless in the shootout as they were in open play and the England keeper made their efforts look puny.

So, congratulations to the lasses on their latest success - if only someone could instil the 'We're English and Never Say Die' mentality into their male counterparts, 60 years of hurt without a single triumph to celebrate.

It's true that possession football is effective if you have top class strikers like Man City but possession on its own does not win games.

Down at the NL level a multitude of sideways passes is nothing more than time wasting. Bombarding the opposition penalty area at every opportunity is more effective at lower levels imho.

Kettering Poolie · **Posted:** Mon Jul 28, 2025 2:22 am

dstanley5 wrote:

Smokin Joe wrote:

'England' - collectively - are definitely NOT great at winning football. However, the England womens team have certainly found a way to win tournaments, despite not having either the best team or the most cultured players. I thought Spain were easily the better footballing side tonight but they were absolutely clueless upfront. England to their credit dug in and battled through 90 minutes plus extra time, both sides scoring with free headers. Spain were as toothless in the shootout as they were in open play and the England keeper made their efforts look puny.

So, congratulations to the lasses on their latest success - if only someone could instil the 'We're English and Never Say Die' mentality into their male counterparts, 60 years of hurt without a single triumph to celebrate.

It's true that possession football is effective if you have top class strikers like Man City but possession on its own does not win games.

Down at the NL level a multitude of sideways passes is nothing more than time wasting. Bombarding the opposition penalty area at every opportunity is more effective at lower levels imho.

Do you like 'teamsmanship' as well

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 9823

Well done Lionesses.

:happy-bouncygreen:

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 20040

dstanley5 wrote:

Smokin Joe wrote:

'England' - collectively - are definitely NOT great at winning football. However, the England womens team have certainly found a way to win tournaments, despite not having either the best team or the most cultured players. I thought Spain were easily the better footballing side tonight but they were absolutely clueless upfront. England to their credit dug in and battled through 90 minutes plus extra time, both sides scoring with free headers. Spain were as toothless in the shootout as they were in open play and the England keeper made their efforts look puny.

So, congratulations to the lasses on their latest success - if only someone could instil the 'We're English and Never Say Die' mentality into their male counterparts, 60 years of hurt without a single triumph to celebrate.

It's true that possession football is effective if you have top class strikers like Man City but possession on its own does not win games.

Down at the NL level a multitude of sideways passes is nothing more than time wasting. Bombarding the opposition penalty area at every opportunity is more effective at lower levels imho.

plus shooting on sight and not controlling the ball first taking too many touches. ok you might break a window at morrions a few times but eventually you,ll get it spot on. one thing i,ll never do is criticise a player for having a shot good or bad.

JohnnyMars · **Joined:** Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:24 am **Posts:** 2480

Whether you like ladies football or not, hats off to Lucy Bronze for playing the whole tournament with a fractured tibia. Respect!

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 9823

JohnnyMars wrote:

Whether you like ladies football or not, hats off to Lucy Bronze for playing the whole tournament with a fractured tibia. Respect!

No wonder we binned the sick noter.
bbolt

Infidel · **Joined:** Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:20 am **Posts:** 670

I enjoyed the whole tournament, I find it refreshing, and those that dislike women's football - I mean it's their choice but I feel they're missing out.

We'll done England Ladies....

Flying Hogans · **Joined:** Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:29 pm **Posts:** 5617

dstanley5 wrote:

It's true that possession football is effective if you have top class strikers like Man City but possession on its own does not win games.

Down at the NL level a multitude of sideways passes is nothing more than time wasting. Bombarding the opposition penalty area at every opportunity is more effective at lower levels imho.

You've got to get in range of the opposition penalty area first for that to be effective. Hopeful punts into the box are meat and drink to average NL defenders, as Pools have demonstrated time and time again in the last couple of seasons - even with a couple of big lads like Mani and Madine up front.

Nothing beats working the ball out wide and turning defenders so everyone except the opposition keeper is facing towards their goal.

PTID · **Joined:** Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:07 pm **Posts:** 4334

I'd say there's a strong argument that the lower the level of football the lower the rate of conversion of chances. Also better quality defenders and keepers make fewer mistakes. Tippy tappy sterile keep ball is ok if you're putting away 1 or 2 of a handful of chances. But if you haven't got the players to convert a high percentage of chances then you need to consistently make lots more chances for them.

Flying Hogans · **Joined:** Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:29 pm **Posts:** 5617

Infidel wrote:

I enjoyed the whole tournament, I find it refreshing, and those that dislike women's football - I mean it's their choice but I feel they're missing out.

We'll done England Ladies....

I watched all the England games and the Germany-Spain semi-final. Amazed France didn't go all the way as England were well beaten by them in the group stage and a late consolation goal didn't alter the result. That's not to say we wouldn't have turned them over in the final!

Overall, it was a good watch and the standard of play of the best teams was impressive - but there was a distinct lack of a cutting edge. Never seen so many games go to extra time. Fair play to the keepers, especially Hannah Hampton, but so many chances were wasted and the two penalty shootouts were shocking.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12382

JohnnyMars wrote:

Whether you like ladies football or not, hats off to Lucy Bronze for playing the whole tournament with a fractured tibia. Respect!

Agree wholeheartedly, that is one painful condition.

MutleyRules · **Joined:** Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:38 am **Posts:** 1520

JohnnyMars wrote:

Whether you like ladies football or not, hats off to Lucy Bronze for playing the whole tournament with a fractured tibia. Respect!

Didn't Beckham miss some games with a fractured toe nail?? :laugh:

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37823

MutleyRules wrote:

JohnnyMars wrote:

Whether you like ladies football or not, hats off to Lucy Bronze for playing the whole tournament with a fractured tibia. Respect!

Didn't Beckham miss some games with a fractured toe nail?? :laugh:

Nah…it was the nail varnish that was fractured.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37823

derwent wrote:

JohnnyMars wrote:

Whether you like ladies football or not, hats off to Lucy Bronze for playing the whole tournament with a fractured tibia. Respect!

Agree wholeheartedly, that is one painful condition.

From personal experience ….. banghea…..it hurts.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12382

Snowy wrote:

MutleyRules wrote:

JohnnyMars wrote:

Whether you like ladies football or not, hats off to Lucy Bronze for playing the whole tournament with a fractured tibia. Respect!

Didn't Beckham miss some games with a fractured toe nail?? :laugh:

Nah…it was the nail varnish that was fractured.

dstanley5 · **Joined:** Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:13 pm **Posts:** 344

I did not see the whole game but I thought the ref gave some very soft free kicks!

JohnnyMars · **Joined:** Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:24 am **Posts:** 2480

dstanley5 wrote:

I did not see the whole game but I thought the ref gave some very soft free kicks!

The Spanish ladies liked a dive or two, in fact they were nearly as bad as their men’s team…

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 20040

Infidel wrote:

I enjoyed the whole tournament, I find it refreshing, and those that dislike women's football - I mean it's their choice but I feel they're missing out.

We'll done England Ladies....

again its each to there own. never watched a second of it but that was the same with wimbledon tennis, the open golf or the lions ru in australia.

dstanley5 · **Joined:** Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:13 pm **Posts:** 344

Don't remember any of the current palaver after the men won the World Cup.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7633

dstanley5 wrote:

Don't remember any of the current palaver after the men won the World Cup.

Because you only had the BBC and ITV both which were in black and white, it was years later the final somehow was enhanced into colour.

Stocksfield_Poolie · **Joined:** Tue Apr 23, 2024 3:29 pm **Posts:** 1089

Did anyone kiss the England captain!

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 20040

dstanley5 wrote:

Don't remember any of the current palaver after the men won the World Cup.

the country and the world are a different place now. most items of news are made bigger since back then and sporting achievment are the worst. its not as if everyone was interested back then or now about sport, but you get the feeling from the media that you should be and are an oddball with an agenda if you are not. instead of being asked where you were when kennedy was assasinated the same question will be where wre you when some sporting achievement happened.

Smokin Joe · **Joined:** Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:13 pm **Posts:** 1151

Also note how governments of the day in the 21st century are quick to jump into the waves of hype that automatically follow British sporting success, feeding off the feelgood factor, seemingly attempting to take some credit and boost their popularity. The majority of the England 1966 World Cup winning team had to wait donkeys years for some kind of recognition. Contrast that with sporting honours these days where MBE's, OBE's, knighthoods and damehoods are dished out like Brownie points. It will be interesting to see the current Govt reaction should the England men's team actually manage to end 60 years of hurt next summer. (And no, I haven't been snorting anything).

Ozzy Saltburn · **Joined:** Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:34 pm **Posts:** 3850

Smokin Joe wrote:

Also note how governments of the day in the 21st century are quick to jump into the waves of hype that automatically follow British sporting success, feeding off the feelgood factor, seemingly attempting to take some credit and boost their popularity. The majority of the England 1966 World Cup winning team had to wait donkeys years for some kind of recognition. Contrast that with sporting honours these days where MBE's, OBE's, knighthoods and damehoods are dished out like Brownie points. It will be interesting to see the current Govt reaction should the England men's team actually manage to end 60 years of hurt next summer. (And no, I haven't been snorting anything).

The last two performances don't bode well for the future.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37823

Smokin Joe wrote:

Also note how governments of the day in the 21st century are quick to jump into the waves of hype that automatically follow British sporting success, feeding off the feelgood factor, seemingly attempting to take some credit and boost their popularity. The majority of the England 1966 World Cup winning team had to wait donkeys years for some kind of recognition. Contrast that with sporting honours these days where MBE's, OBE's, knighthoods and damehoods are dished out like Brownie points. It will be interesting to see the current Govt reaction should the England men's team actually manage to end 60 years of hurt next summer. (And no, I haven't been snorting anything).

Aye politicians do like to ride the wave and wrap themselves in the flag as they elbow themselves to the front, ….it’s when they talk you realise the know bugger all on the subject and embarrass themselves to look the part.

Infidel · **Joined:** Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:20 am **Posts:** 670

Ozzy Saltburn wrote:

Smokin Joe wrote:

Also note how governments of the day in the 21st century are quick to jump into the waves of hype that automatically follow British sporting success, feeding off the feelgood factor, seemingly attempting to take some credit and boost their popularity. The majority of the England 1966 World Cup winning team had to wait donkeys years for some kind of recognition. Contrast that with sporting honours these days where MBE's, OBE's, knighthoods and damehoods are dished out like Brownie points. It will be interesting to see the current Govt reaction should the England men's team actually manage to end 60 years of hurt next summer. (And no, I haven't been snorting anything).

The last two performances don't bode well for the future.

No they don't.

With the men, there's usually something amiss. There's usually something going on that transpires to make them underachieve, misbehaviour (like the dentist's chair) for one.

Even when we had the so called "golden generation" we couldn't get it right and win something. Then (under Southgate) when we chanced our way in to the top end of tournaments, we blew it through lack of ambition - by not going for it enough.

In short, the ladies seem to have found that little bit extra with team spirit and bonding that makes them winners - while the men haven't.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 20040

Snowy wrote:

Smokin Joe wrote:

Also note how governments of the day in the 21st century are quick to jump into the waves of hype that automatically follow British sporting success, feeding off the feelgood factor, seemingly attempting to take some credit and boost their popularity. The majority of the England 1966 World Cup winning team had to wait donkeys years for some kind of recognition. Contrast that with sporting honours these days where MBE's, OBE's, knighthoods and damehoods are dished out like Brownie points. It will be interesting to see the current Govt reaction should the England men's team actually manage to end 60 years of hurt next summer. (And no, I haven't been snorting anything).

Aye politicians do like to ride the wave and wrap themselves in the flag as they elbow themselves to the front, ….it’s when they talk you realise the know bugger all on the subject and embarrass themselves to look the part.

if the men win in 2026 they,ll be all over there local football clubs making out they were fans of the game for years. wonder how many of them ill actually pay a single penny at any club in the country when they attend. another free day out with a sit down meal on top.

elwood · **Joined:** Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:31 pm **Posts:** 268

I guess at the moment the highlight of a woman football player's career is playing (and winning) for her country as that is where the majority of interest is in the women's game.

Unfortunately for the England men's team the money and fame are to be found in club football and FIFA have tried to make that even more so with that crazy World Clubs Cup or whatever it was called.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 20040

elwood wrote:

I guess at the moment the highlight of a woman football player's career is playing (and winning) for her country as that is where the majority of interest is in the women's game.

Unfortunately for the England men's team the money and fame are to be found in club football and FIFA have tried to make that even more so with that crazy World Clubs Cup or whatever it was called.

away from RL and RU at the top every other sport played only gets interest at international level as well. 20 over cricket at county level is popular but the county championship is a place to go if you want some quiet. most towns have a mens hockey club where you can represent the town but with less watching than a sunday league fixture on the rec.

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