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 Post subject: Re: Game No 42 - Away to Dagenham
PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2025 5:09 pm 
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Bag of shite.

Didn't even get to hear our goal as BBC Tees decided to go over to Ray Simpson at the Darlo match just before we scored.


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Huge opportunity missed today.

That said Halifax, Altrincham and Oldham are dead in the water and Sarfend managed to lose at home, so if FGR do the decent thing and put Gateshead away in the 5.30 kick off - the Fat Lady hasn't quite sung for Pools yet. :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Game No 42 - Away to Dagenham
PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2025 5:12 pm 
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I never thought we would make the play offs but so many sending offs and stupid decisions from players with no discipline. Off to bed now been saying for ages should cancel my subscription . Following Leeds at least they are entertaining


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 Post subject: Re: Game No 42 - Away to Dagenham
PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2025 5:23 pm 
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harrogatepoolie wrote:
2 points dropped. Season over . Massive clear out. It’s a joke club with a joke team who treat their fans like shit. Who would invest in this train wreck of a club


Stevenson should be fined at least a weeks wages. Getting a soft yellow for mouthing off is pure self indulgence and is the antithesis of team work!

Drawing is no different to losing in terms of a teams success. Holding out for a draw was not the way to be successful today. Even with a man down there should have been a big effort to win? Taking Cleary off was not correct.
The two points lost today have removed the outside chance of doing anything this season.

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 Post subject: Re: Game No 42 - Away to Dagenham
PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2025 5:38 pm 
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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
I sincerely apologise for the false hope.
Fcuk of Sing ASAP ya bastad.


I do not blame the players today who fought like fook for over a hour on a day that was hot weather. I cannot believe Stephenson although a young lad would say something ( what else if not sctatchinghead ) that after getting booked just 5 minutes previous that gets him sent off. Thought the referee was a fooking disgrace ( not sour grapes but FACT ) he gives a penalty when he had no choice what else could he have done but forgets to book the player who constantly fouled our forwards time and again without getting a single warning. A player who grabbed hold of Mani by the waist ( a clear penalty ) yet got away with it. Even the honest commentators said after seeing the replay it was a clear penalty. Then back to the first half Joe got brought down from behind in the box again it should have been a penalty. The manager I applaud for being both positive and organised a manager who I hope is given the backing and the tools to see what he can produce next season. One last thing though RAJ PLEASE FINALLY F*** OFF AS FAR AWAY FROM OUR CLUB AS POSSIBLE. rakxe


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 Post subject: Re: Game No 42 - Away to Dagenham
PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2025 6:44 pm 
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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
I sincerely apologise for the false hope.
Fcuk of Sing ASAP ya bastad.


Not your fault Kevin, But i do accept your apology :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Stevo is playing with his heart, NOT his brain.


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 Post subject: Re: Game No 42 - Away to Dagenham
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If we’d almost got playoffs would have just been an excuse to stick with the shite we have, massive clear out of players and staff needed


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 Post subject: Re: Game No 42 - Away to Dagenham
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Stephenson has been poor in every match since he came back, f*ck knows what they're coaching him but last season he looked a very bright prospect, this season he doesn't get forward enough, doesn't tackle, and can hardly pass the ball a couple of yards. Where's the real Stevo gone?


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 Post subject: Re: Game No 42 - Away to Dagenham
PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2025 7:22 pm 
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Now that the season for Pools is over, it is annoying to look back and realise how easy it should have been to be in the playoff places. Losing at Ebbsfleet, players getting sent off for mouthing off at referees, drawing games due to opponents' late equalisers, etc. A half decent manager could have sorted such things and increased our points total by a dozen or more, even with the current modest squad of players!

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 Post subject: Re: Game No 42 - Away to Dagenham
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dstanley5 wrote:
Now that the season for Pools is over, it is annoying to look back and realise how easy it should have been to be in the playoff places. Losing at Ebbsfleet, players getting sent off for mouthing off at referees, drawing games due to opponents' late equalisers, etc. A half decent manager could have sorted such things and increased our points total by a dozen or more, even with the current modest squad of players!


I would go a step further and suggest any older more experienced Pools supporter could have achieved the playoffs this season. See its the passion love and respect thats always missing in most of these frog hopping managers. They simply do not and never will understand the real meaning of the word passion :roll: How strange the Dorking manager / owner keeps achieving outstanding things for his Micky Mouse club...Yes you got it passion. :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Game No 42 - Away to Dagenham
PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2025 7:40 pm 
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Is it difficult to tell players that if one or two of sending off yellows are 'soft' it will result in a large fine. I do not think that many of Cloughie's players would have relished an early return to the dressing room after being sent off for a soft yellow!

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 Post subject: Re: Game No 42 - Away to Dagenham
PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2025 8:34 pm 
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Stevo was sent off for a second yellow card given for encroachment on the free kick, not for dissent.


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 Post subject: Re: Game No 42 - Away to Dagenham
PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2025 9:30 pm 
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Disappointed we've blown it today. But think we can all agree that it wasn't down to today's performance. 17 draws, 3 managers, countless missed goalscoring opportunities, many needless suspensions and injuries to a lesser extent are what have cost us a play off spot. And that is without the sideshow of what's going on behind the scenes.

Stability is what we need going into next season.
Raj will now shuffle off, after the prospect of a the playoffs finally evaporated. Got to to give Mr Smithers a chance to build a successful squad for next season. Think he deserves a chance to get it right from the start. Players will stay, if there is a smooth transition of both power and a plan for next season. Get rid of Smithers at this point and the whole thing potentially becomes even more of a circus, in my opinion


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 Post subject: Re: Game No 42 - Away to Dagenham
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Mctee1908 wrote:
Stevo was sent off for a second yellow card given for encroachment on the free kick, not for dissent.


Doesn't really matter now, though given he was booked only five minutes previously, he should have retreated if that were the case.


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 Post subject: Re: Game No 42 - Away to Dagenham
PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2025 9:57 pm 
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He had retreated the full distance, but was trying to charge the shot down. They did a routine where one guy stepped up to hit it, but dummied it, then a second guy ran up and actually hit it, Stevo started running to charge it down expecting the first guy to hit it, so by the time the second guy took the kick, Stevo couldn’t stop his momentum and was already half way towards the ball, so was booked for encroaching.

My point is that it wasn’t that he lost his head, it was just a bit of inexperience, and he got caught out by the dummy. If the first guy had hit it, then there wouldn’t have been an issue. He needs to be smarter than that, but he will learn.


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 Post subject: Re: Game No 42 - Away to Dagenham
PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2025 10:22 pm 
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Kettering Poolie wrote:
Disappointed we've blown it today. But think we can all agree that it wasn't down to today's performance. 17 draws, 3 managers, countless missed goalscoring opportunities, many needless suspensions and injuries to a lesser extent are what have cost us a play off spot. And that is without the sideshow of what's going on behind the scenes.

Stability is what we need going into next season.
Raj will now shuffle off, after the prospect of a the playoffs finally evaporated. Got to to give Mr Smithers a chance to build a successful squad for next season. Think he deserves a chance to get it right from the start. Players will stay, if there is a smooth transition of both power and a plan for next season. Get rid of Smithers at this point and the whole thing potentially becomes even more of a circus, in my opinion

Got to agree.

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 Post subject: Re: Game No 42 - Away to Dagenham
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He had retreated the full distance, but was trying to charge the shot down. They did a routine where one guy stepped up to hit it, but dummied it, then a second guy ran up and actually hit it, Stevo started running to charge it down expecting the first guy to hit it, so by the time the second guy took the kick, Stevo couldn’t stop his momentum and was already half way towards the ball, so was booked for encroaching.

My point is that it wasn’t that he lost his head, it was just a bit of inexperience, and he got caught out by the dummy. If the first guy had hit it, then there wouldn’t have been an issue. He needs to be smarter than that, but he will learn.


That's how I saw it too - and a referee who was slightly less dog shite (and he really was) would have cut him some slack, had a stern word, and would not have ruined the game.


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 Post subject: Re: Game No 42 - Away to Dagenham
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In my experience, for him to get sent so early, suggests he must have said something abusive towards the referee. If this was the case then I am pleased he was sent off, should be more of it.

Hopefully he will learn from it. He is a player with a good physique who has come through the ranks, and we need to start keeping, rather than getting rid of every season, rinse and repeat.

Reminds me of Kenton Richardson, and look what he is doing for Gateshead this season.


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 Post subject: Re: Game No 42 - Away to Dagenham
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Missed yesterday's game due to Sky not connecting us until tomorrow. Looked to me like D&R could have had about 8 before they finally equalised.


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 Post subject: Re: Game No 42 - Away to Dagenham
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Should've brought on a more defensive player for Madine after the sending off imo and played with Cleary and Mani looking to break quickly.
Wouldn't have taken Cleary off, and certainly wouldn't have brought Fev on when we were down to 10, we needed someone who could cover the pitch and chase things down.
Charman and Folarin brought nothing to the game whatsoever.
Liked the way Miley charged in when Charman was getting pushed about, good to see he's got a bit of passion as well as footballing ability, possibly a future Captain?


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 Post subject: Re: Game No 42 - Away to Dagenham
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loyal_fan wrote:
If we’d almost got playoffs would have just been an excuse to stick with the shite we have, massive clear out of players and staff needed


We need to end the shit of signing up our shit out of contract players late in the summer when nobody else wants the.
Fergy Fevs etc.
MannyD needs to leave its 100% obvious he doesn't want to be at Pools and Mancini needs scattering.

4 overated players who just ain't promotion material.

Looks likely we Gunna have to go down the Miley route n try n cherry pick the topish up n coming north east youth talent even if a tad of patience is needed.

Yes a few mite think I'm fulla shit.
That will never be a problem like. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Game No 42 - Away to Dagenham
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sctatchinghead refred violin This bank holiday in August.
Don't rule out a hattrick ov being 2 0 up n getting beat 3 2 again.
Eh :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Game No 42 - Away to Dagenham
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PTID wrote:
Stephenson has been poor in every match since he came back, f*ck knows what they're coaching him but last season he looked a very bright prospect, this season he doesn't get forward enough, doesn't tackle, and can hardly pass the ball a couple of yards. Where's the real Stevo gone?

he is a young lad plying in an average team and like last season he will have good and bad spells. being a defender you notice him more than somebody in mid field who are having an off day. if dodds had been fit he would not have become a regular in the side and blame the manager more than him for his handling of the lad.


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 Post subject: Re: Game No 42 - Away to Dagenham
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That's my point Accy, last season he looked a really bright prospect now he looks out of his depth and has no confidence whatsoever. I don't blame the kid, why are the coaches not getting better out of him, we know it's there?


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 Post subject: Re: Game No 42 - Away to Dagenham
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Mctee1908 wrote:
He had retreated the full distance, but was trying to charge the shot down. They did a routine where one guy stepped up to hit it, but dummied it, then a second guy ran up and actually hit it, Stevo started running to charge it down expecting the first guy to hit it, so by the time the second guy took the kick, Stevo couldn’t stop his momentum and was already half way towards the ball, so was booked for encroaching.

My point is that it wasn’t that he lost his head, it was just a bit of inexperience, and he got caught out by the dummy. If the first guy had hit it, then there wouldn’t have been an issue. He needs to be smarter than that, but he will learn.

did not see the game. did the ball hit him when he was encroaching. most games players do similar but get away with it if the ball does not hit them as i expect that was the case with him.


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PTID wrote:
Should've brought on a more defensive player for Madine after the sending off imo and played with Cleary and Mani looking to break quickly.
Wouldn't have taken Cleary off, and certainly wouldn't have brought Fev on when we were down to 10, we needed someone who could cover the pitch and chase things down.
Charman and Folarin brought nothing to the game whatsoever.
Liked the way Miley charged in when Charman was getting pushed about, good to see he's got a bit of passion as well as footballing ability, possibly a future Captain?

still waiting to see folarin do anything apart from his winning goal last week. are we stuck with him for next season.


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 Post subject: Re: Game No 42 - Away to Dagenham
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Mctee1908 wrote:
He had retreated the full distance, but was trying to charge the shot down. They did a routine where one guy stepped up to hit it, but dummied it, then a second guy ran up and actually hit it, Stevo started running to charge it down expecting the first guy to hit it, so by the time the second guy took the kick, Stevo couldn’t stop his momentum and was already half way towards the ball, so was booked for encroaching.

My point is that it wasn’t that he lost his head, it was just a bit of inexperience, and he got caught out by the dummy. If the first guy had hit it, then there wouldn’t have been an issue. He needs to be smarter than that, but he will learn.

did not see the game. did the ball hit him when he was encroaching. most games players do similar but get away with it if the ball does not hit them as i expect that was the case with him.


Difficult to see, I think it hit the wall then bounced back off them and hit Stevo in the back of the leg. It was harsh, but was correct to the letter of the law.

The confusion was increased because the referee told them to reset and take the free kick again, and waited until the ball was back on the correct spot, and the wall was formed again before going over to give Stevo his second yellow. Normally you would see the yellow card given before the play was reset.


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