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 Post subject: Re: Ebbsfleet
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Shit game but I guess the result is the main thing


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Will take the win but that was a very poor performance against the worst team in the league

Whoever takes over hopefully a lot of these players are chased and take the manager with them


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Agree so many poor players . Need a full clear out. Not enough quality


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3-2 Folarin
Ebbsfleet can feel hard done by

I really don’t care…nothing personal Mr Loyal



Nothing personal taken--yes if we play shite every week and win I'd be happy,...but in the real world that doesn't happen--and its clear this team is far from good enough and a few end of season wins against shite shouldnt delude us.

Biggest issue is the midfield in this formation, always overrun, and needs Madine/Mani D dropping for an attacking mid to help out or better players than Miley and Sheron as the two...


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I'll take that...not the greatest of games but 3 points will do.
Did anyone else think that Parkes when he went ground grab the ball with both hands?? I'm 99% certain he did....need to see the replay.


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3-2 folarin


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Spennymoor win 5-4 on penalties


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Trouble on the pitch


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Very pleased for them


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MutleyRules wrote:
I'll take that...not the greatest of games but 3 points will do.
Did anyone else think that Parkes when he went ground grab the ball with both hands?? I'm 99% certain he did....need to see the replay.


I think he did but he also got a kick in the head


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 Post subject: Re: Ebbsfleet
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loyal_fan wrote:
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3-2 Folarin
Ebbsfleet can feel hard done by

I really don’t care…nothing personal Mr Loyal



Nothing personal taken--yes if we play shite every week and win I'd be happy,...but in the real world that doesn't happen--and its clear this team is far from good enough and a few end of season wins against shite shouldnt delude us.

Biggest issue is the midfield in this formation, always overrun, and needs Madine/Mani D dropping for an attacking mid to help out or better players than Miley and Sheron as the two...


Yesterday I praised the manager and said he will make mistakes and learn from them but fook me 2-1 up and takes off a player of Joes quality and brings on a now well over the top pensioner Featherstone. Terrible mistake to make a very negative substitution especially against a relegated team. We should have had Parksy sent off and a penalty given ( not seen it back ) but he seemed to dive on the ball goalkeeper style with both hands and grab the ball that looked a certain tap in. Then we look totally disjointed yet get a mad deflection into Folarin to score the most unlikely goal for years. Finally Folarin does something for his fee and even then the header only just passed the keeper. Are we seeing a turn of good fortune for the first time since we won the playoffs sctatchinghead maybe a crazy omen. :roll:


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Can't remember watching a scrappier Pools win than that in 50-odd years. Couldn't have complained if Ebbsfleet had won - they played far more football than Pools did. You'd think with Ebbsfleet looking like the 7 Dwarves in comparison to Mani and Madine it would be a good day for hoofball, but no.

A day when we got very lucky. I was stood level with their 6 yard box ready for a quick exit when Folarin's winner went in - he looked well offside.


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Can't remember watching a scrappier Pools win than that in 50-odd years. Couldn't have complained if Ebbsfleet had won - they played far more football than Pools did. You'd think with Ebbsfleet looking like the 7 Dwarves in comparison to Mani and Madine it would be a good day for hoofball, but no.

A day when we got very lucky. I was stood level with their 6 yard box ready for a quick exit when Folarin's winner went in - he looked well offside.


But it came of their player. :wink:


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Can't remember watching a scrappier Pools win than that in 50-odd years. Couldn't have complained if Ebbsfleet had won - they played far more football than Pools did. You'd think with Ebbsfleet looking like the 7 Dwarves in comparison to Mani and Madine it would be a good day for hoofball, but no.

A day when we got very lucky. I was stood level with their 6 yard box ready for a quick exit when Folarin's winner went in - he looked well offside.


But it came of their player. :wink:


Ah. Didn't spot that at the game.


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Me and BIG KEV are homing in. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Ebbsfleet
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Flying Hogans wrote:
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Can't remember watching a scrappier Pools win than that in 50-odd years. Couldn't have complained if Ebbsfleet had won - they played far more football than Pools did. You'd think with Ebbsfleet looking like the 7 Dwarves in comparison to Mani and Madine it would be a good day for hoofball, but no.

A day when we got very lucky. I was stood level with their 6 yard box ready for a quick exit when Folarin's winner went in - he looked well offside.


But it came of their player. :wink:


Ah. Didn't spot that at the game.


Yes it bounced off I think the back of his heel and bounced up and onto our players head and somehow a soft header went in off the keepers hand I think. :laugh:


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 Post subject: Re: Ebbsfleet
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We've got a real good signing in Miley imo, everything you want from a midfielder, tackles, a good engine, knows what's around him, and has a great range of passing. Should get better too given his age. Mom for me, and very easily so.


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We've got a real good signing in Miley imo, everything you want from a midfielder, tackles, a good engine, knows what's around him, and has a great range of passing. Should get better too given his age. Mom for me, and very easily so.


Agree - for me he's one of the few that had a decent game today. Plus Parkes, Mani and Cleary - who kept going and got his goal even though he had a tough time againt their no. 18 Carr, who I thought was excellent. Ebbsfleet have got him on loan from Ipswich.


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Yes, I thought their RB did very well against Cleary today. Best defender he's faced since he's been here.
It seems generally that our luck has turned, we wouldn't have won that a few weeks ago. We went through a spell where nothing fell for us in front of goal, keepers played out of their skins, refs seemed to give everything against us. Now we seem to be getting more of the rub of the green.
No way we'll win the next 5 though. Credit Limbrick for going for the win though.


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 Post subject: Re: Ebbsfleet
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In my view Limbrick was very lucky to get away with the three points from that game. Ebbsfleet were a much better 'footballing' side than Pools who looked pedestrian and devoid of ideas for much of the game. Although he was often shackled by the Ebbsfleet full back, Clearly once again delivered the goods and effectively won the game for Pools. Such a shame that he is not our player.

Not for the first time, Limbrick waited far too long before making changes with several players visibly struggling or simply ineffective. Pools midfield was ponderous and devoid of ideas without Mancini and at one stage resorted to the crab football that we thought had been all but eliminated under Limbrick. At times it looked like Pools were the relegated team with nothing to play for which was shameful. To be brutally honest we won't pick up another point this season on today's performance. Limbrick and the majority of his players need to step up their game significantly to have any hope of being retained under the new regime.


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Smokin Joe wrote:
In my view Limbrick was very lucky to get away with the three points from that game. Ebbsfleet were a much better 'footballing' side than Pools who looked pedestrian and devoid of ideas for much of the game. Although he was often shackled by the Ebbsfleet full back, Clearly once again delivered the goods and effectively won the game for Pools. Such a shame that he is not our player.

Not for the first time, Limbrick waited far too long before making changes with several players visibly struggling or simply ineffective. Pools midfield was ponderous and devoid of ideas without Mancini and at one stage resorted to the crab football that we thought had been all but eliminated under Limbrick. At times it looked like Pools were the relegated team with nothing to play for which was shameful. To be brutally honest we won't pick up another point this season on today's performance. Limbrick and the majority of his players need to step up their game significantly to have any hope of being retained under the new regime.


Spot on assessment Joe. For me the biggest mistake was putting on a negative slow holding midfielder ( Feathers ) for a player like Joe who can win you a game even though he is struggled to find his form since his return. It handed them the incentive to attack even more :wink:


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We missed Mancini big style.
Great result in the end.
Unfortunate with other results.
Get a fitish team out at Daggers next week and we go to Rochdale on Good Friday with a large following.
And its still alive.
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Definitely not a great watch, but it's results that matter and we got what we needed.
Might be a bit controversial, but Gray and Madine looked as if they weren't interested to me. Madine has never been the most dynamic but looked very lethargic. Joe looked to be going through the motions but played well within himself, looking after himself maybe so as not to get injured?


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Definitely not a great watch, but it's results that matter and we got what we needed.
Might be a bit controversial, but Gray and Madine looked as if they weren't interested to me. Madine has never been the most dynamic but looked very lethargic. Joe looked to be going through the motions but played well within himself, looking after himself maybe so as not to get injured?


Think a fair few are trying successfully to avoid injury.
Must think their agents are magicians for summer moves.
Unless this mathematical equation erupts into party time.
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We missed Mancini big style.
Great result in the end.
Unfortunate with other results.
Get a fitish team out at Daggers next week and we go to Rochdale on Good Friday with a large following.
And its still alive.
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Error its Oldham good Friday.
Which works out better than Rochdale.


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 Post subject: Re: Ebbsfleet
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Definitely not a great watch, but it's results that matter and we got what we needed.
Might be a bit controversial, but Gray and Madine looked as if they weren't interested to me. Madine has never been the most dynamic but looked very lethargic. Joe looked to be going through the motions but played well within himself, looking after himself maybe so as not to get injured?


Not sure about Joe, I thought it just wasn't his day but Madine definitely didn't look interested, Mani wasn't much better but seemed to perk up and put more effort into his game after Madine went off. Ebbsfleet had a game plan, stuck to it and almost secured a result. If they retain most of their squad they must have an excellent chance of an instant return from the League beyond the grave - although Spenny will be one of the favourites if they can hold onto Spike.


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Just watched the highlights...it made the game look like a cracker...which it definitely wasn't.
Noticed Pools never put on the Parkes 'handball' though.


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Big shout for Folarin too, took his chance well and probably deserves a bit of a run in the starting line up.


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did not see the game but it sounds like limbrick got it spot on by saying we have played much better but not got the rewards we should have done. is it a case of things even out across a season in the luck stakes. feel yesterday was a real banana skin type of game where the future ones are not.


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A lot of those players wont be here next season especially if we get to win the playoffs. :lol:

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A lot of those players wont be here next season especially if we get to win the playoffs. :lol:

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A lot of those players wont be here next season especially if we get to win the playoffs. :lol:

unlike last time there will be none going to a better club for a bigger wage.


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Might be a bit controversial, but Gray and Madine looked as if they weren't interested to me. Madine has never been the most dynamic but looked very lethargic. Joe looked to be going through the motions but played well within himself, looking after himself maybe so as not to get injured?


The idea that any of our players, but especially those two, are saving themselves for a move is for the birds. Cleary is the best player in a Hartlepool shirt by a distance - but his contract is with West Brom. Mani D has probably done just enough (14 goals) for another sideways move to somewhere like Solihull if that's what he wants. Mancini and Dodds are always injured. Madine has done well to get fit and scoring again but isn't pulling up any trees. Joe Grey has had a poor season by his standards and still looks short on confidence in front of goal.


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Might be a bit controversial, but Gray and Madine looked as if they weren't interested to me. Madine has never been the most dynamic but looked very lethargic. Joe looked to be going through the motions but played well within himself, looking after himself maybe so as not to get injured?


The idea that any of our players, but especially those two, are saving themselves for a move is for the birds. Cleary is the best player in a Hartlepool shirt by a distance - but his contract is with West Brom. Mani D has probably done just enough (14 goals) for another sideways move to somewhere like Solihull if that's what he wants. Mancini and Dodds are always injured. Madine has done well to get fit and scoring again but isn't pulling up any trees. Joe Grey has had a poor season by his standards and still looks short on confidence in front of goal.

could not agree more. we have not got a single player of our own who are even close to league standard either by age or capabilities. the best any could get would be a move like crawford got last season for those out of contract. then there is this thing about looking if they have no interest. how does anyone know this and if they do they should seriously look at doing a mind reading act.


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Madine and Gray were playing well within their capabilities, lack of interest or injury who knows? But fans can see who's putting 100% graft in and they weren't imo, Joe is normally a handful harrying and pressing defenders, he did very little of it yesterday, and there were a couple of opportunities to nick the ball when he hardly seemed to even try. Madine was going through the motions and never tried to win the ball back after being dispossessed, a very lazy performance imo.


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Just watched the highlights...it made the game look like a cracker...which it definitely wasn't.
Noticed Pools never put on the Parkes 'handball' though.


Lets hope Parkes is NOT a concussion injury.


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Job done. Agree with Limbrick, its a positive that Pools can now get 3 points, when they haven't played particularly well. In the past Pools lost games when they played poorly, in fact they often lost games when they played well, so its something. As I've said before, games v Boston and Ebbsfleet you'd expect to win, both sides were plucky and put up a fight, but we'll see if there has been any real improvement in away games at Gateshead and Rochdale, the Rochdale game being a must win, if we are to make the play offs as a 50-1 outsider. I would say York have as much chance of catching Barnet and Pools have of making the play offs. Need 3 points at Dagenham on Saturday, but I see this as possibly the most difficult game in the run in.

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Job done. Agree with Limbrick, its a positive that Pools can now get 3 points, when they haven't played particularly well. In the past Pools lost games when they played poorly, in fact they often lost games when they played well, so its something. As I've said before, games v Boston and Ebbsfleet you'd expect to win, both sides were plucky and put up a fight, but we'll see if there has been any real improvement in away games at Gateshead and Rochdale, the Rochdale game being a must win, if we are to make the play offs as a 50-1 outsider. I would say York have as much chance of catching Barnet and Pools have of making the play offs. Need 3 points at Dagenham on Saturday, but I see this as possibly the most difficult game in the run in.


Easiest game on paper.
But reckon we need a cameo 53 mins from Mancini.
Expecting a hard fought lucky 1 goal win.

Then the hope/Mathematics becomes reality.

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Madine and Gray were playing well within their capabilities, lack of interest or injury who knows? But fans can see who's putting 100% graft in and they weren't imo, Joe is normally a handful harrying and pressing defenders, he did very little of it yesterday, and there were a couple of opportunities to nick the ball when he hardly seemed to even try. Madine was going through the motions and never tried to win the ball back after being dispossessed, a very lazy performance imo.


Must be in Madines contact he doesn't have to run.
He Dosent even do the fast soldiers marching walk. bbolt :lol:


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Madine and Gray were playing well within their capabilities, lack of interest or injury who knows? But fans can see who's putting 100% graft in and they weren't imo, Joe is normally a handful harrying and pressing defenders, he did very little of it yesterday, and there were a couple of opportunities to nick the ball when he hardly seemed to even try. Madine was going through the motions and never tried to win the ball back after being dispossessed, a very lazy performance imo.


Must be in Madines contact he doesn't have to run.
He Dosent even do the fast soldiers marching walk. bbolt :lol:

do not think he looks any different from the first game he played for us. fine if he scores but not when he isn,t doing that or setting someone up to do it.


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Agree he looks more like the player he was when he first joined, but he was coming back from a very serious injury and long spell out of the game then. A few weeks ago he looked lively and was more involved in games, tackling back and doing at least some graft, the last couple of games.....


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PTID wrote:
Madine and Gray were playing well within their capabilities, lack of interest or injury who knows? But fans can see who's putting 100% graft in and they weren't imo, Joe is normally a handful harrying and pressing defenders, he did very little of it yesterday, and there were a couple of opportunities to nick the ball when he hardly seemed to even try. Madine was going through the motions and never tried to win the ball back after being dispossessed, a very lazy performance imo.


Must be in Madines contact he doesn't have to run.
He Dosent even do the fast soldiers marching walk. bbolt :lol:

do not think he looks any different from the first game he played for us. fine if he scores but not when he isn,t doing that or setting someone up to do it.


Made a great run to the near post on saturday, Then pulled back and left their defender marking fresh air.
Joe decided to shot, Madine just turned and walked away, I would have been on his case.


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really prolific strikers are rarely seen but somehow come to life in the box and score. how many opponents have we seen in the past who do naff all and we think whats the big fuss about them, they,d never get in a pools team. then they awake from their slumber and get the winner.


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