Go back to sniffing glue our kid.

A lot of business owners and some commentators are sounding like the same group who said similar things when the minimum wage was introduced. The world was going to end.
Undeniably there will be business owners who will take advantage and use it as an excuse to make more money - 'ah well, we've had to put 50p on a pint to cover NI you see.'
Let's see how it pans out and happy to accept I could be wrong in time and it's all a terrible mistake, but not just yet! Let's discuss again in a year and see what effect it's had.

I was more of a Gas man.

It seems that businesses think that profits always need to increase and will set prices/staffing levels to make that happen. Is any business prepared to say "well we'll need to take a hit in my profits as well to help out my staff/customers"?

My suggestion for raising a bit more from the rich is to not let clever accountants reduce the tax level below the average level paid by PAYE workers. It is simply not right for the likes of some top football players to pay next to nothing whilst most PAYE workers have nothing more than the basic allowance free of tax.

Another thing that has always confused me is why does the house buyer have to pay the duty? Making the seller pay the duty would help first time buyers.
Most property sales involve a profit for the seller so it seems logical that they pay the duty.

I was working for a bank in Newcastle in 1996 when Labour were setting their stall out for the election and minimum wage was on the agenda and the amount of business owner customers who predicted millions of unemployed was off the scale. Never happened

Raising Minimum Wage is obviously a good thing but trying to pretend it along with higher employer NI contributions won't affect jobs, price of goods, business failures, etc
Hans Christian Anderson wouldn't even try spinning that yarn.

Well makes a change from horror stories.

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And we thought Labour were for the working person.

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Aye,30 years ago

Can't even define what a working person is. Can't define what a woman is but people voted them to be our government?

Catch is they can be as generous as they like with the minimum wage, somebody else will be picking up the bill and won’t cost them a penny.

Raising the minimum wage creates more revenue for the government via N.I.and tax.

Private schools taking the government to court over the introduction of VAT on fees,
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c98d3xr0290o

Most businesses will say they need to increase profits so they can make investments but some individual one are under pressure from the shareholders to increase profits to increase dividend payouts.

The U.K. infrastructure roads, schools, hospitals etc are crumbling and has been for years due to lack of investment.It has to be fixed, Labour is borrowing the money, would you rather pay more income tax to fix it, the U.K. pays one of the lowest income tax in Europe ranking 13th.

The overall tax bill is the highest it's ever been since 1948? Naive in the extreme to believe that Income Tax is the only tax we pay.
On top of that the cost of living is through the roof.
Nothing at all in that budget to help most people. The OBR forecasts that by the end of this Parliament the average wage will be up £13 pw - in real terms that will be a reduction after inflation / shrinkflation / legalised theft by the likes of utilities companies in the form of the standing charges / green taxes etc

Trade
The OBR predicts that Brexit will reduce the volume of UK imports and exports by 15%. This is expected to reduce the trade intensity of the UK economy, which in turn will lower productivity.

I don’t think it’s all down to this weeks Budget if we are taking the OBR view.

then how many businesses had to increase what they paid to employees once it was introduced and how many more gave poor wage rises until eventually they paid the minimum wage. suppose you could argue due to the british work ethic they were paying too much to some anyway whose idea of work was doing as little as possible.

thats because workers only see the amount of income tax and NI they pay as other taxes are hidden.

always makes me smile when a big business releases its profits say 4 million. the year before they made 6 million but make out they have made a loss from the previous year. no they made a profit of 4 million and thats it.

The money markets haven’t crashed like they did with the Truss budget, they dipped yesterday but are steady away today which might be an indicator that Reeves budget isn't all bad ?

Showing your true colours now Comrade…..

VAT …WHY….?
VAT was introduced in 1974 as a part of the price we paid for joining the EU.
We ain’t there anymore so why are we stilling paying this consumption tax…?

it replaced purchase tax we previously had to pay which was on most goods purchased. problem was it seemed to be added to price of these goods rather than replacing it. my most hated tax of all as its the same percentage you pay no matter how much money you have or earn. think all metrication we had prior to joining the common market to make us the same cost everyone extra with the rounding up rather than down that was done to push something nobody actually asked for. its a con as when fuel goes up 2p a litre it feels less than saying its 9 and a half p per gallon which once would have been the case or close on 2 bob in old money. just imagine the uproar if that had happened pre d day.

Well if the " budget isn't all bad " what is it then. This labour lot will go down in history as the worst ever to govern our country and " two tier " the worst prime minister of all time.

I know it replaced purchase tax but the UK controlled it……but begs the question why a purchase tax?
Simply because they daren’t put it on income tax for backwash.

C’mon Accy …if you were getting paid £500 a week and it was dropped to £350 you wouldn’t be happy and say no problem I still got paid.

After 4 months in power how can you come to that conclusion ? what was the alternative, 14 years of a Tory government who brought the country to its knees and lined the pockets of their own with the supply of PPE mostly faulty and rotting in warehouses.

Most likely move next door to the Sunaks in California in 2029.
Pair of corrupt Bullshitters.

would not mind if that was the dividend i earned from my shares on top of my wage or pension.

None of them give a flying fook about any of us FACT. They all line their pockets from local councils to government. Alternative well we don't have one and thats exactly the way they like it. Its all just a " big soap opera " played out by actors on a political stage to convince the " voters " they have a real say in the future of the Country. I can see right through them and have done for many years now. Despite me sometimes saying I voted Reform I never vote full stop its just a wind up. It's my personal opinion that all these parties are in it together and laugh like fook at all of us whilst sipping the very best champagne on offer.

cue for a new reality show there.

I’m talking about businesses not individusls

Worse than Liz Truss?

In a nutshell.
Professional Lieing Bastads.

Something we all agree on

Nope she crashed the markets and forced up interest rates in a matter of hours, the Bank of England had to step in.

Kin'ell Leggie...can't you remember the last 5 Tory PM's??

Yes I can remember each and everyone of the foookers. The worst for me personally was Cameron but the way Starmer has started tells me he will be wearing that crown shortly.

Not a chance.

Bless them, Parliment Bar Prices.

What’s Starmer done to upset you Leggie, I doubt you personally will be affected by the budget not unless you run a business, I don’t particularly like home but at least give him a couple years not months.

Why should there be a bar, does or did anyone have one where they used to work ?

Dumb and dumber …talk about I’m alright Jack…..if it affects business, YOU pick up the bill……..isn’t it time to drop the Mr Neutral charade and admit you’re Labour Party plant doing a piss poor impersonation of an innocent abroad…..giving Starmer a chance is like standing on the bridge of the Titanic with the water round your waste and thinking the Captain knows what he’s doing.

Actually it's none of your business why I believe Starmer and Labour are crap.

Labour have been in Government for just 3 months trying to sort out the mess caused by 14 years of absolute shite and alls what they get on the bunker is the likes of the above.
I can't remember this much shit been aimed at the tories in the 14 years they were in.
3 months.

The Tories were totally fooking clueless but my personal view is this lot will be worse.Time will tell

Aye time will tell.
I just can't believe they took away the WFA....I reckon that will come back to haunt them....fecking idiots!!

But howay....3 months....even Sarl got longer!!

Well if the " budget isn't all bad " what is it then. This labour lot will go down in history as the worst ever to govern our country and " two tier " the worst prime minister of all time. [/quote]
Kin'ell Leggie...can't you remember the last 5 Tory PM's?? [/quote]

Yes I can remember each and everyone of the foookers. The worst for me personally was Cameron but the way Starmer has started tells me he will be wearing that crown shortly. [/quote]

What’s Starmer done to upset you Leggie, I doubt you personally will be affected by the budget not unless you run a business, I don’t particularly like home but at least give him a couple years not months.[/quote]
Dumb and dumber …talk about I’m alright Jack…..if it affects business, YOU pick up the bill……..isn’t it time to drop the Mr Neutral charade and admit you’re Labour Party plant doing a piss poor impersonation of an innocent abroad…..giving Starmer a chance is like standing on the bridge of the Titanic with the water round your waste and thinking the Captain knows what he’s doing.[/quote]

I am neutral Snowy, I am not defending Labour but at least give them a chance after all the years the Tories had in power.