what if you call someon a ginger bastard but you’re dyslexic ?

Funny nobody mentions the Manchester airport fiasco any more. Filmed evidence of Police Woman been battered and has to be passed to CPS as to wether bring charges.

And once again I agree with you.

All part of the Takeover unfortunately.
World War 1n2 pointless now.

Snowy gives as good as he gets.

they are just giving ammunition to people by showing a bias where if something was made of it they could prove people were racist and not worried about a country they and their ancestors have lived for hundreds of years and not just a few generations at best. if we went to there lands of birth we all know we,d have to tow the line they expected like it or not.

fuck the gingers i have never fancied them and i make snowy a dark haired lad in disguise. i,ll admit i,m a gingerist or a gingerphobe.

I don't think the English would be stupid enough to go into an Arab Muslim state country and even think about breaking the law.
While them lot have zero respect for our law because they know how to get away with it.

from their point of view you cannot blame thm one single bit in their actions and all the blame lies at the feet of us and the law makers and enforces that all it to happen. what would our reactions be on anything if there seemd to be no comeback on our decisions we make.

Only just came across this thread. Oh my god. Seriously? All muslims living in this country have zero respect for the law. That's your view? "Them lot"? And we wonder why the North East is looked at as backward, knuckle dragging.

From a footballer upsetting a few neanderthals by celebrating in front of them to islamaphobia in one thread. As for the "whataboutery" 3 Asian thugs putting two police officers in hospital is not an excuse for demonising a whole religion! How many police officers were hospitalised in the recent riots? As for the other pathetic justifications for racist behaviour - you go into an overweight persons place of work, for example a restaurant, and call them a fat ****, or call the receptionist at your local Health Centre a ginger *****, or abuse a disabled person at work, and see if you have no consequences!

It beggars belief that people are happy to routinely abuse players at a football match for 90 minutes, then cry like babies when they get a bit back.

My personal philosophy is 'stick to the football' - bit awkward when football threads take a turn like this one, but it's always the same whenever Effiong's name comes up.
What sticks in my mind is Gus Mafuta's reaction to the the abuse Effiong got... to say that he wasn't impressed would be putting it very mildly.

If you are in an heated exchange with a ginger and their eyes moisten, don’t think it’s tears, it’s the temper kettle boiling…..and the mist descends.

Well said Herr Flick.

Never got that excited by opposition players celebrating to want to abuse them, what’s the point.

point is that at a match everyone is different. you see some just sit there through a game and hardly move never mind get excited. others are wound up from the pre match toss up. for me football gets many more wound up than being stuck in a motorway traffic jam that includes players as well as fans. must admit that on many occasions i have come out of games and thought whats the point of it all.

I fully appreciate that everyone has a different trigger point, merely pointing out maybe I’ve now reached the stage where you just move on quickly and disregard these things….bigger things in life to worry about.

Mr Flick rightly points out that it isn't fair to tar all muslims with the same brush but then goes on to decribe north easterners as knuckle draggers. This is where the racist card argument falls down. To call muslims "them lot" is racist but to call northeasterners "knuckle draggers" isn't. Hows about stopping and thinking and considering there are muslims amongst the NE community so are they knuckle draggers and is calling a muslim a knuckledragger classed as racist.

You left out ‘backward’…you have a point Mr D.
Of course there are some ‘backward knuckle draggers’….but to apply that title to an entire region is incorrect.
And who looks down on us in such a stereotypical way….

TownEnd is volatile most times, Stopped going in there myself.

In answer to your ? Snowy.
I would say the Governments.

I never give the opposition players the satisfaction of getting angry/upset.
When Michael Nelson scored on his Norwich debut at Pools he raced back to the dugout to celebrate and loads of Pools fanscwere jumping up and down and racing down the steps to abuse him, on the camera footage me and my lad were sat behind the dugouts a few rows back looking like the game hadn’t started.

When he scored he actually fist pumped and started kissing his new badge infront of the townend. He milked the goal and gloated to wind them up. Not a great way to return to a club who really helped promote you to a big club big wage level. Extremely disrespectful to supporters who loved the bloke.

Correct… Labour think the North East is their trained puppy, The Tory’s think ‘why bother’ they’re a hopeless case and the Lib Dem’s think the North East is ‘a land far, far away of which they know little’ and have no intention of trying to.

Covolan, annoying git, but a decent keeper.
I dare say if Pools had signed him you’d find fans can be complete hypocrites.

Mr Derwent...No HE doesn't describe North Easteners as knuckle draggers. HE says we are perceived that way....by others in other words.

Sorry, I missed out HIS descriptive word backword. He wrote it and HE could have made it clear that HE didn't agree with the title given to the NE but HE didn't do that did HE.
Just like "that lot" are perceived as "them lot".
Me, I see everybody as equal and abuse of ANY kind is exactly what it is, it is abuse. All lives matter to me, as do all races and all religions. All rioters and law breakers should be dealt with the same treatment and as equals under the law but the people who continuously wave the racist card are actually bigger racists than the people who they attack and expect different treatment for different miscreants which is why the two tiered criticism is rife.
If you want equality for all and respect for all then you have to give the same regard for all.
High horses are dangerous animals to ride, the fall is steeper and bigger.
Keep yer powder dry.

Or colour blind.

We still haven’t been told who it is exactly who looks down on us.

But Herr Flick didn't describe all the North East as knuckle draggers. If you can't see that...well...it beggars belief.

Think that quote is all inclusive.

What beggars belief is your total misunderstanding of the words used.
The North East means all of it and "them lot" means all of them. If you mean something different then you have to use different words.

What's knuckle dragging?

Them lot
Your lot
You People
Monkey Hangers
Micky mouses
Jocks
Paddys
Taffs
Cloggers
Nips
Kiwis
Ah bless Snowflakes.
W o r d a g e,!!!!

'And we wonder why the North East is looked at as backward, knuckle dragging.'
Doesn't sound to me like somebody personally referring to the north east as the following, instead sounds like someone summarising what other parts of the UK (mainly/exclusively southern) have referred to the north east as in the past.

Thank you Krampesh. Hopefully he/they'll understand now that it wasn't Herr Flick labelling all from the North East as knuckle draggers. Took some work though.
Now expect a lot of words from Derwent...twisting it again and actually saying nothing but the opposite.

Indeed.

just a generalisation at the end of the day like other regions. scousers being thieves, scots and yorkshire being tight fisted, brummies being thick, southerners untrustworthy and so on an on. out of every group you,ll find somebody like that even those not from that area.

The posters who normally have an answer for everything gone quiet.
Is it because there's no such wordage
Maybe do-gooders language.

So what does it mean?
Never heard of it.
Educate me!!

All answer welcome

So is Derwent not allowed an opinion, Without ridicule.

Exactly right.
Mutley describes that as perception. which it is. However there is one major difference, when Muslims are herded together under a banner it is racism.
It is common practice to refer to various groups as "that lot" but not for Muslims. Yet they want to be treat the same as everyone else. I treat everyone the same, including them.
That's the bit people who carry the race card around in their top pocket don't understand. It is they who are making an exception to the norm, not me.
Tough shit.

When Muslims are trying to set fire to Working Mens Clubs with people inside, then we can all be lumped together.

if we all ignore generalations of people you have to then guage em on the few you meet. meets a couple of decent ones then they are all decent meet the opposite then they are scum. if being a knuckle dragger means people have not fallen for the present views on things many have not bought into to then it might not be too bad being discribed like that. anything must be better than being part of the new left wokeraty that i,d guess those of the proper keir and his ilk would be turning in their graves if they new.

Of course he is.

Going by the Oxford Dictionary..
A big stupid man who thinks and behaves in simple basic ways
A bit like calling someone a Neanderthal, strong but not the sharpest knife in the box.
Not a compliment Kev.

actually it sounds a compliment when you hear the so called elite talk and the crap they come out with.

What's a Neathanderal?

Thank you

Our lass married one according to her