it remains to be seen whether the Southport murderer was radicalised.

No Kev you’re suffering from ‘The kings new clothes’ syndrome…in other words you’re just telling it as it is……The truth.

Doubtless we’ll be told on the twelfth of Never or somewhere around that date.

Has Starmer sacked Jess Phillips for her comments on the Birmingham mob ?

What did she say? Has a Labour politician finally grown a pair and dared say anything uncomplimenatry about the religion of peace?

Seems she doesn't have a problem with masked men with machetes' defending'their area to me....Yep,Birmingham of all places

Well a person in Rotherham brandished a gun inside the holiday Inn. It's all over YouTube if it's real footage that is extremely scary

It's definitely a 2 way scenario. These acts of Violence.
Surely there will be no protests from any side organised for Saturday when 15000 Birmingham City fans will be exiting St Andrews at 19:30.

I can see football games in the big city's being used as an excuse to carry on this carry on Unfortunately.

Probably rose through the ranks with very little time on the beat by passing some form exams/tests like my niece, 44 years old and a Chief Inspector, spent very little time on the beat, straight from uni into the Policeforce.

Apparently a large percentage of recruits only have 4 years experience……and now they need a degree.
Can’t we just employ those who can handle themselves and possess lot’s of common sense….?

Now you're just being daft.

some seem earmarked for promotion once they join whilst others have to fight there way up to find a glass ceiling. bit like the situation with football referees where before they blow a whistle some get pushed more than others. seeing the number that actually go to university now there are bound to be some who get nowhere and leave the police for other jobs. there must be hundreds of plod below the ranks of inspector and above.

The senior officers who appear on TV now look like bank clerks…and to be honest would you follow them into any scenario…well possibly out of curiosity,…..but they’re hardly inspiring.

As with the other nights, most arrests will be made after the event using camera footage. People are now being charged, link below. Another myth debunked. No double standards, just another lie to enrage the racists.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0jpwnj7g46o

they need to actually look the part of what people in general expect and can look smart in uniform. of it might not make em super cops though and should only be the deciding factor between the candidates all similarly suited for the job.

That incident was marked by a complete absence of police.
I’ve encountered stealth aircraft but stealth coppers are a new experience.

if all this footage is so good then what could they actually do with it for us who just go about our lawful business if someone decides that business is not as lawful as we think it is in the future. no wonder there are conspiracy theories abounding.

Truth quotes made out to be lies n myths.
Classic wordtwistery antagonist false accusations from Macker.
Who knows he's wrong as the video evidence in Birmingham shows.
Muslims commitng crimes.
Dangerous driving.
Assault on white guy outside pub.
Carrying offensive weapons (which police should of attended to ASAP)


So these 2 tier quotes are certainly not lies.

End of chat.

The bloke on the electric bike riding up to the female reporter was quite shocking too, as she looked really scared, then trying to slash the Sky News van’s tyres.
Can’t beat a bit of reasoned debate

Whilst I accept that many of the protests have been initiated by right wing extremists, I believe that many of those who turn up are ordinary, non political, folk who find it to be the only way of expressing their despair at the number of immigrants benefitting from free tax payer funded healthcare, accommodation, food, education etc when resources are stretched to breaking point.
I also believe that the reaction to the current numbers of illegal immigrants being experienced would be exactly the same if they were eskimos hence it has little to do with colour or religion!

But that point wasn't a lie?

Plenty of footage of the guy with the knife and being arrested, Even citizen journalists on Youtube have posted the video evidence of him being bundled into the van?

People heard that there's never been a naughty immigrant and bless their souls they believe it.
Absolute truths are very hard to find.

I have heard that diversity is our strengh. I have thought about it and concluded it is bollocks.

I'd agree, diversity is causing huge division within communities and the country in general. Too many factions wanting everything their way and instantly. Don't know what the answer is?

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The part that was a lie was that he was a Muslim, which is the part that they claim caused the mosque attacks. It was a guy called Jordan Davies. There are photos of him online along with some of his social media posts encouraging people to come and protest.

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/li ... 654007.amp

And they are in the process of arresting them, so the 2 tier claims are utter nonsense. There is absolutely no evidence to support any of it. It’s an old EDL myth to try and sow division.

You’re obviously very comfortable in being played by racist millionaires like Farage, Yaxley-Lennon and the like, and take all their lies as gospel. That is your perogative. They continue to make all their money while their followers who have acted on their incitement are thrown in jail.

Most choose not to be so gullible.

No photo’s… ……apart from the 70’s Vauxhall Viva which is innocent.
I like to see them to compare them.
I ‘m a bit old school in that I like too see a picture of the incident and a picture of the accused, just for reference.

19 of the 49 chiefs are women, so not even half.
12 of 38 PCC’s are women so less than a third.

And…

And about 95% of them were chosen by gender rather than ability to do the job I'd guess.

You really are a bunch of old fashioned gadgies!! Ha

And some of you young uns are naive beyond belief. Don't you realise that positive dis rimination is still discrimination?

Maybe you have inadvertantly hit on something here Mr Mikey.
Like Mr Jonjo I inwardly noted the women coming on in these troubled areas and now you have kindly showed the ratios, is it possible that the areas bossed by women are more affected than the ones bossed by men. thus giving the impression that women had taken over these jobs. Maybe they just can't do the job.
Just a thought but it is interesting to say the least, don't you think.

Or maybe those places just have more angry white blokes with a love of smashing up long standing local businesses, burning libraries and looting Lush?

By old fashioned do you mean experienced????
In my lifetime I have seen masses of change but the question that keeps coming up is has all this change been for the better. Starmer keeps spouting that the country needs change and he and his cohorts seem hell bent on making changes. Time will tell whether the country is better or worse off in five years time.
Around 10 million pemsioners aren't dancing in the streets over the change to their situation so far are they.
The word change has been rammed down the electorate's throat by the Labour Party. How long do you think before the electorate start ramming it back. HA.

The figures I can find say 35% of PCs in England and Wales are female so they are over represented further up. Whether that's due to direct entrant opportunities attracting more women because they don't have to do any Policing I dunno. Maybe they're just better leaders, I dunno.

There is good and bad in every culture, religion and race. The general mood at the moment is that even handedness is missing between them.
We had all these minority groups fighting and campaigning that the minority should be treat the same as the majority.
We're now witnessing the wheel turning the full circle and the majority are complaining and campaigning for even handedness. They want to be given the same recognition and treat in the same manner and the evidence is growing that they're not getting that. It used to be the far right spouting hatred and questioning immigration policy, now ordinary folk are voicing the same concerns. Labelling them far right alongside extremists and angry white blokes isn't going to make them go away. It will only alienate them even more.
The divide is getting wider and pigeon holing people who are genuinely concerned isn't going to bridge the gap.
I think there needs to be a general toning down of the language.

If people want to line up with the far right, then they're in their gang as far as I'm concerned.

When you’re out on your paper round do some grown up thinking,
The last 30 years of my working life was for female bosses, which was brilliant because my background was not their background. So I was left to my own devices.
Before that it was all male bosses and right hard faced bastards, but you knew where you stood, so that suited me too…I’d have a female boss every time, no problem.
There, there.

Crack on with your stereotyping

They're not lining up with them though. That's where you miss the point completely.
The majority of people demanding immigration is sorted out have been no where near a riot. Like me for instance. I have never been in a riot in my life, never marched in protest and never deliberately set out to destroy other people's property.
I want to know why people invading this country illegally can get dental treatment on the NHS and I have to pay for it. Like this weeK my treatment is costing over £500. That's on top of the announcement that I've lost my winter fuel allowance This is the sort of thing that is getting people's backs up.We are treating lawbreakers whilst ignoring our law abiding citizens and we're fed up with it. When we've got the backbone to make sure that every one of our kids doesn't live in poverty then we can help others. My philosophy is we look after our own first before we consider looking after others. Would you make your kids go without food whilst looking after somebody else's kids........no you wouldn't.
There has to be a limit to this scenario and ordinary people are demanding it.
Using your philosophy, people who willingly allow or back illegal immigration are in the same illegal law breaking gang.

Yeah, to be fair I missed smashing gravestones to throw at the police.

Brilliant honest on the money post if I am allowed to say under the new laws

I'm not missing the point, I'm on about the people who go out on these bullshit 'protests' which without a doubt are organised by far right figures. If people go out on these kick offs alongside people singing Tommy Tommy Tommy Robinson, supporting it, they are in that gang.
I have no problem with people having opinions, I'm all for it, I have some opinions people don't agree with, however smashing shit up, looting Greggs and slapping pakis about... Or standing along side people doing that and cheering and goading is not opinion. It's arseoles doing arseoles stuff.
Isnt being British about a sense of fair play, manners and trying to do the right thing?

But you're happy enough to use the p*k1 word. Bit hypocritical.

Just a thought, but these boat arrivals are all coming here by illegal means. Shame they can't fast track the judicial process for them.

I was using it ironically, get over it.

That’s a good lad …keep it up.

Snowy so you haven't actually watched any News coverage for the past week or so?
Kin'ell!!
I'm lost for words and I'm actually.......never mind.