Darren Sarrl

loyal_fan · **Joined:** Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:15 pm **Posts:** 3688

waddell wrote:

Disappointed in the extreme with this outcome.
The press release is woefully inadequate and fails to give any explanation for what has just happened.
Not even a hint.
Don't expect the ins and outs but it should have contained more than it did.
Total disaster of a statement and only likely to lead to more of the usual shite allegations of penny pinching garbage we are used to, and lead to more disillusionment/discontent among supporters.
A complete gift to some with an agenda in my view.
Who was responsible for putting it together I wonder?
Was KP offered the job but turned it down?
Could terms not be agreed?
Did KP want to bring someone else in as his number 2 but was told no so upped sticks?
Has there been disagreement this week between KP and Monks/Board /others on the retained list/other issues in the lead up to this decision?
Maybe the ever constant nice blokes nose has been put out of joint yet again for some reason, leading to KP being shown the door?
Who knows... but the speculation will now go into overdrive because of this kind of crap and will do the club no good at all.
KP had success written all over him it was bloody obvious to anyone but a village idiot.
He will go on to success elsewhere I have no doubt.
As for the new bloke.
Well... A non league player of absolutely no note.
The best you can say is that he has some experience as a manager at this level.
But he's won absolute f/k all despite it and his C.V doesn't fill me with any excitement or confidence.
Sounds like a Curle/Askey C.V with less actual success in it.
A bland unexceptional journeyman type.
Has been accused of bullying before.. make of that what you will.
Complete load of bollox...cue the music..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XgakSxcHPE

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darren_Sarll
https://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/news/ ... ren-sarll/

FairPlay for coming on here and giving your opinion, let’s hope it works out and we have a good year next year
I don’t like how it was done but at least we not in limbo for months

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12320

Krampesh wrote:

derwent wrote:

Krampesh wrote:

Sarll has been watching us for months just listen to his interview for proof.
Phillips has been shit on big time. There was never any terms to agree to because Singh’s first choice for the job was getting it no matter what happened

I hope you are right and he has been watching us for months because if it is true he should have a good idea on who to get shot of.
Football is an area where people regularly get shit on but if no terms were on the table there was no offer surely, so how was KP shit on. Or do you know more.
If Sarrl was Raj's first choice why did he not appoint him before KP. We were told he was sacked by Woking last November so would have been a free agent.
Strange.

KP has been planning for next season, negotiating a contract and talking to players.
There were 2 rumours at the time, either we had to pay some compensation to get him out of his leave post Woking (something which happens a lot in football) or he watched us for a few games and said it wasn’t for him.

How would you negotiate a contract with no terms in it??? Now you say the rest is based on rumours. Not bothered with rumours mate ta.

Krampesh · **Joined:** Sat Jul 10, 2021 10:14 am **Posts:** 583

derwent wrote:

Krampesh wrote:

derwent wrote:

Krampesh wrote:

Sarll has been watching us for months just listen to his interview for proof.
Phillips has been shit on big time. There was never any terms to agree to because Singh’s first choice for the job was getting it no matter what happened

I hope you are right and he has been watching us for months because if it is true he should have a good idea on who to get shot of.
Football is an area where people regularly get shit on but if no terms were on the table there was no offer surely, so how was KP shit on. Or do you know more.
If Sarrl was Raj's first choice why did he not appoint him before KP. We were told he was sacked by Woking last November so would have been a free agent.
Strange.

KP has been planning for next season, negotiating a contract and talking to players.
There were 2 rumours at the time, either we had to pay some compensation to get him out of his leave post Woking (something which happens a lot in football) or he watched us for a few games and said it wasn’t for him.

How would you negotiate a contract with no terms in it??? Now you say the rest is based on rumours. Not bothered with rumours mate ta.

Assuming you’re being dense on purpose? A contract was being negotiated with the club but wasn’t finalised for a very obvious reason now.
I don’t know why Sarll wasn’t appointed in Jan but I know for a fact he was at the Kidderminster game in the directors back to be appointed as manager afterwards.

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4374

waddell wrote:

Disappointed in the extreme with this outcome.
The press release is woefully inadequate and fails to give any explanation for what has just happened.
Not even a hint.
Don't expect the ins and outs but it should have contained more than it did.
Total disaster of a statement and only likely to lead to more of the usual shite allegations of penny pinching garbage we are used to, and lead to more disillusionment/discontent among supporters.
A complete gift to some with an agenda in my view.
Who was responsible for putting it together I wonder?
Was KP offered the job but turned it down?
Could terms not be agreed?
Did KP want to bring someone else in as his number 2 but was told no so upped sticks?
Has there been disagreement this week between KP and Monks/Board /others on the retained list/other issues in the lead up to this decision?
Maybe the ever constant nice blokes nose has been put out of joint yet again for some reason, leading to KP being shown the door?
Who knows... but the speculation will now go into overdrive because of this kind of crap and will do the club no good at all.
KP had success written all over him it was bloody obvious to anyone but a village idiot.
He will go on to success elsewhere I have no doubt.
As for the new bloke.
Well... A non league player of absolutely no note.
The best you can say is that he has some experience as a manager at this level.
But he's won absolute f/k all despite it and his C.V doesn't fill me with any excitement or confidence.
Sounds like a Curle/Askey C.V with less actual success in it.
A bland unexceptional journeyman type.
Has been accused of bullying before.. make of that what you will.
Complete load of bollox...cue the music..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XgakSxcHPE

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darren_Sarll
https://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/news/ ... ren-sarll/

Probobly the most sense you have spoke since you have been on here. It should of come as no surprise to you that contract negotiations were never going to be plain sailing. Like you im not that excited by this new guy i doubt he will be here too long anyway, but we will see what he brings in now.

Grayhoundend · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:13 pm **Posts:** 6644

Krampesh wrote:

derwent wrote:

Krampesh wrote:

derwent wrote:

Krampesh wrote:

Sarll has been watching us for months just listen to his interview for proof.
Phillips has been shit on big time. There was never any terms to agree to because Singh’s first choice for the job was getting it no matter what happened

I hope you are right and he has been watching us for months because if it is true he should have a good idea on who to get shot of.
Football is an area where people regularly get shit on but if no terms were on the table there was no offer surely, so how was KP shit on. Or do you know more.
If Sarrl was Raj's first choice why did he not appoint him before KP. We were told he was sacked by Woking last November so would have been a free agent.
Strange.

KP has been planning for next season, negotiating a contract and talking to players.
There were 2 rumours at the time, either we had to pay some compensation to get him out of his leave post Woking (something which happens a lot in football) or he watched us for a few games and said it wasn’t for him.

How would you negotiate a contract with no terms in it??? Now you say the rest is based on rumours. Not bothered with rumours mate ta.

Assuming you’re being dense on purpose? A contract was being negotiated with the club but wasn’t finalised for a very obvious reason now.
I don’t know why Sarll wasn’t appointed in Jan but I know for a fact he was at the Kidderminster game in the directors back to be appointed as manager afterwards.

Sarll was due a large sum in compo from Woking, If he had sign on for us. He would have lost it.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12320

Krampesh wrote:

derwent wrote:

Krampesh wrote:

derwent wrote:

Krampesh wrote:

Sarll has been watching us for months just listen to his interview for proof.
Phillips has been shit on big time. There was never any terms to agree to because Singh’s first choice for the job was getting it no matter what happened

I hope you are right and he has been watching us for months because if it is true he should have a good idea on who to get shot of.
Football is an area where people regularly get shit on but if no terms were on the table there was no offer surely, so how was KP shit on. Or do you know more.
If Sarrl was Raj's first choice why did he not appoint him before KP. We were told he was sacked by Woking last November so would have been a free agent.
Strange.

KP has been planning for next season, negotiating a contract and talking to players.
There were 2 rumours at the time, either we had to pay some compensation to get him out of his leave post Woking (something which happens a lot in football) or he watched us for a few games and said it wasn’t for him.

How would you negotiate a contract with no terms in it??? Now you say the rest is based on rumours. Not bothered with rumours mate ta.

Assuming you’re being dense on purpose? A contract was being negotiated with the club but wasn’t finalised for a very obvious reason now.
I don’t know why Sarll wasn’t appointed in Jan but I know for a fact he was at the Kidderminster game in the directors back to be appointed as manager afterwards.

I'll ignore your first remark

You've still to explain how a contract could be negotiated which had no terms in it. You're coming out with different information each time you post. It's like pulling teeth.
However I see Mr Gray has explained it.
Thank you for trying to answer my questions though, I'm very grateful and I promise next time I'll make them less complicated, well I'll try anyway.

Krampesh · **Joined:** Sat Jul 10, 2021 10:14 am **Posts:** 583

derwent wrote:

Krampesh wrote:

derwent wrote:

Krampesh wrote:

derwent wrote:

I hope you are right and he has been watching us for months because if it is true he should have a good idea on who to get shot of.
Football is an area where people regularly get shit on but if no terms were on the table there was no offer surely, so how was KP shit on. Or do you know more.
If Sarrl was Raj's first choice why did he not appoint him before KP. We were told he was sacked by Woking last November so would have been a free agent.
Strange.

KP has been planning for next season, negotiating a contract and talking to players.
There were 2 rumours at the time, either we had to pay some compensation to get him out of his leave post Woking (something which happens a lot in football) or he watched us for a few games and said it wasn’t for him.

How would you negotiate a contract with no terms in it??? Now you say the rest is based on rumours. Not bothered with rumours mate ta.

Assuming you’re being dense on purpose? A contract was being negotiated with the club but wasn’t finalised for a very obvious reason now.
I don’t know why Sarll wasn’t appointed in Jan but I know for a fact he was at the Kidderminster game in the directors back to be appointed as manager afterwards.

I'll ignore your first remark

You've still to explain how a contract could be negotiated which had no terms in it. You're coming out with different information each time you post. It's like pulling teeth.
However I see Mr Gray has explained it.
Thank you for trying to answer my questions though, I'm very grateful and I promise next time I'll make them less complicated, well I'll try anyway.

That’s not what I’ve said though is it? I’ve said that there were no terms to agree to,as in any terms KP wanted would not have been agreeable for Raj as he had another person in mind for the job.
My story is consistent, I didn’t know the reason he didn’t sign so gave you the rumours I heard at the time therefore answering the question you asked. Conversations tend to work by people asking a question and someone answering not dumping a load of information not asked for.
Next time I’d suggest reading properly because when you assume you make an ass out of you and me.

Essex poolie · **Joined:** Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:42 pm **Posts:** 834

Now now girls calm down.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12320

Essex poolie wrote:

Now now girls calm down.

Quite right. :laugh:

PTID · **Joined:** Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:07 pm **Posts:** 3893

Wonder why Sarll has been appointed as manager when Askey and KP were Head Coach? Same job different title or subtle differences - more input into player recruitment possibly??

loyal_fan · **Joined:** Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:15 pm **Posts:** 3688

Woking fans generally not impressed

And sounds like he had a good size budget at woking, apparently starts well but no plan b and it turns to shit….time
Will tell

https://cardsboard.co.uk/forum/viewtopi ... =2&t=13845

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36322

loyal_fan wrote:

Woking fans generally not impressed

And sounds like he had a good size budget at woking, apparently starts well but no plan b and it turns to shit….time
Will tell

https://cardsboard.co.uk/forum/viewtopi ... =2&t=13845

Ok we’ll sack him.

ffs.

loyal_fan · **Joined:** Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:15 pm **Posts:** 3688

Snowy wrote:

loyal_fan wrote:

Woking fans generally not impressed

And sounds like he had a good size budget at woking, apparently starts well but no plan b and it turns to shit….time
Will tell

https://cardsboard.co.uk/forum/viewtopi ... =2&t=13845

Ok we’ll sack him.

ffs.

???
Thought people may be interested in the opinions of fans who watched his teams

PTID · **Joined:** Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:07 pm **Posts:** 3893

Does it matter?

Leggie43 · **Joined:** Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:55 am **Posts:** 7286

Snowy wrote:

loyal_fan wrote:

Woking fans generally not impressed

And sounds like he had a good size budget at woking, apparently starts well but no plan b and it turns to shit….time
Will tell

https://cardsboard.co.uk/forum/viewtopi ... =2&t=13845

Ok we’ll sack him.

ffs.

loyal_fan · **Joined:** Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:15 pm **Posts:** 3688

PTID wrote:

Does it matter?

??
It’s interesting given they have seen him manage a club no?

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36322

loyal_fan wrote:

Snowy wrote:

loyal_fan wrote:

Woking fans generally not impressed

And sounds like he had a good size budget at woking, apparently starts well but no plan b and it turns to shit….time
Will tell

https://cardsboard.co.uk/forum/viewtopi ... =2&t=13845

Ok we’ll sack him.

ffs.

???
Thought people may be interested in the opinions of fans who watched his teams

Why, I have eyes to see, I can decide for myself.
Fans opinions of departing mangers are like car reviews, don’t read them either, because you’ll never buy the bloody car.

loyal_fan · **Joined:** Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:15 pm **Posts:** 3688

Snowy wrote:

loyal_fan wrote:

Snowy wrote:

loyal_fan wrote:

Woking fans generally not impressed

And sounds like he had a good size budget at woking, apparently starts well but no plan b and it turns to shit….time
Will tell

https://cardsboard.co.uk/forum/viewtopi ... =2&t=13845

Ok we’ll sack him.

ffs.

???
Thought people may be interested in the opinions of fans who watched his teams

Why, I have eyes to see, I can decide for myself.
Fans opinions of departing mangers are like car reviews, don’t read them either, because you’ll never buy the bloody car.

So why have you been
Reading up on the manager as you said in another thread if you are waiting for your eyes to show you how good he is ?

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36322

loyal_fan wrote:

Snowy wrote:

loyal_fan wrote:

Snowy wrote:

loyal_fan wrote:

Woking fans generally not impressed

And sounds like he had a good size budget at woking, apparently starts well but no plan b and it turns to shit….time
Will tell

https://cardsboard.co.uk/forum/viewtopi ... =2&t=13845

Ok we’ll sack him.

ffs.

???
Thought people may be interested in the opinions of fans who watched his teams

Why, I have eyes to see, I can decide for myself.
Fans opinions of departing mangers are like car reviews, don’t read them either, because you’ll never buy the bloody car.

So why have you been
Reading up on the manager as you said in another thread if you are waiting for your eyes to show you how good he is ?

Er, it’s called preparation, like a car, you’re told of a model, you review it, then you take a test drive…I’m at the reviewing it stage…..I’m awaiting the test drive with interest.
In your case you’ve heard about a car, had a technical discussion with some blokes in a pub and decided it’s not for you…sticking with the Reliant Robin. :laugh:

PTID · **Joined:** Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:07 pm **Posts:** 3893

Couldn't care less what they think of him, managers and players work at some clubs but not at others. I'll judge him after I've seen his team, tactics, and most importantly his results for us.
His overall stats (facts not opinions) are not too bad regardless of what their Woking fans think.

loyal_fan · **Joined:** Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:15 pm **Posts:** 3688

I haven’t got any opinion of him yet, waiting to see retained list and signings first
Interesting though seems he had a great first season got an increased budget and all went tits up , no change of the increased budget here so he should be ok

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12320

All we can do is see what happens.
Starting with the retained list.

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4374

Did great for a season i think we will accept did great for 3 months here. Yeah not that highly thought of at Woking judging by all that but liking injury prone players, he should certainly be a perfect match for us if thats the case because we live off injury prone players.

He certainly doesnt appear to be soft, which is probobly what we need to deal with our soft arse players.

Flying Hogans · **Joined:** Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:29 pm **Posts:** 5360

loyal_fan wrote:

Woking fans generally not impressed

And sounds like he had a good size budget at woking, apparently starts well but no plan b and it turns to shit….time
Will tell

https://cardsboard.co.uk/forum/viewtopi ... =2&t=13845

"Generally not impressed" is putting it very mildly. Woking fans must have a lower tolerance of failure than Poolies.

Somebody in the Pools hierarchy must have a lot of faith in his ability, but why wasn't he recruited in January? Talk of Sarrl being on gardening leave is tosh, he was sacked on 13th November last year - when you sack a bloke you don't have any say in what he does afterwards.

Sigma1908 · **Joined:** Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:40 am **Posts:** 105

Flying Hogans wrote:

loyal_fan wrote:

Woking fans generally not impressed

And sounds like he had a good size budget at woking, apparently starts well but no plan b and it turns to shit….time
Will tell

https://cardsboard.co.uk/forum/viewtopi ... =2&t=13845

"Generally not impressed" is putting it very mildly. Woking fans must have a lower tolerance of failure than Poolies.

Somebody in the Pools hierarchy must have a lot of faith in his ability, but why wasn't he recruited in January? Talk of Sarrl being on gardening leave is tosh, he was sacked on 13th November last year - when you sack a bloke you don't have any say in what he does afterwards.

He took them to their best ever placed finish in his first season there 4th.. little Woking need to realise where they lie in the pyramid.. Yeovil fans loved him and his style of football, but meddling from the board ruined it.. bbolt

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36322

Accentuate the negative …as the song goes.
If some on here booked on the Titanic, they’d be well pissed off if it avoided the iceberg.

PTID · **Joined:** Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:07 pm **Posts:** 3893

If you pay an employee off you can indeed dictate wether they can work for someone else depends on the terms of the settlement.
If you sack someone outright it's different then you're not paying them anything and have no say.

PTID · **Joined:** Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:07 pm **Posts:** 3893

For me with Pools I learned long ago to live with hope rather than expectation.
I think for the vast majority on here we all live in hope, just that some have higher expectations (not to be confused with ambitions or aspirations - we all want the best possible for the club).

Eiphos_3 · **Posted:** Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:19 am

What an absolute joke - I did not expect the retained list to firstly have the managers name as the first one out. Plus still no Retained list.

First time i think ive ever been in the position where I didnt agree with a Hartlepool United Manager Sacking/ Letting go of !!! Absolutely obsurd at what rumours ive been hearing about the whole embargo ! Very annoying for the players too. Like the lads who are staying, having that confidence and relationship with KP and how hes gone. Not sure what that does for moral, just aswell it is end of season !

Ive heard its our resident fossil Lennie who has negotiated this shit show with Raj ! Waiting on the confirmed truth and i will share.

Sounds like the thing i said KP is possible of doing - He asked for X and got given Y and a boot out the door !

DS was clearly tinkering away in the background unless hes full of crap and hasnt been watching the games. There is a rabbit away, however there is a connection with Ronnie Moore too as i am sure he was his coach back at Rotherham.

Pointless ranting anyways - it is what it is... aslong as he has at least some cash available he probably can make a good go of it. Knows this level and has had some success. Just a shame KP could not of had a good crack at it as i think he was going to be a good manager for us !

hoping the retained list is out today ?

also hearing Sweens is gone as DS is bringing in a full new back team. !

Sigma1908 · **Joined:** Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:40 am **Posts:** 105

Eiphos_3 wrote:

What an absolute joke - I did not expect the retained list to firstly have the managers name as the first one out. Plus still no Retained list.

First time i think ive ever been in the position where I didnt agree with a Hartlepool United Manager Sacking/ Letting go of !!! Absolutely obsurd at what rumours ive been hearing about the whole embargo ! Very annoying for the players too. Like the lads who are staying, having that confidence and relationship with KP and how hes gone. Not sure what that does for moral, just aswell it is end of season !

Ive heard its our resident fossil Lennie who has negotiated this shit show with Raj ! Waiting on the confirmed truth and i will share.

Sounds like the thing i said KP is possible of doing - He asked for X and got given Y and a boot out the door !

DS was clearly tinkering away in the background unless hes full of crap and hasnt been watching the games. There is a rabbit away, however there is a connection with Ronnie Moore too as i am sure he was his coach back at Rotherham.

Pointless ranting anyways - it is what it is... aslong as he has at least some cash available he probably can make a good go of it. Knows this level and has had some success. Just a shame KP could not of had a good crack at it as i think he was going to be a good manager for us !

hoping the retained list is out today ?

also hearing Sweens is gone as DS is bringing in a full new back team. !

theres loads of rumours going about mate best not to chew yourself up with it - One i heard was KP had been talking to other clubs ( which he was entitled to do ) and we all know what Raj is like with stuff like that.. We will probably never find out, unless KP turns up at a club this week.. then we know

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12320

PTID wrote:

If you pay an employee off you can indeed dictate wether they can work for someone else depends on the terms of the settlement.
If you sack someone outright it's different then you're not paying them anything and have no say.

That happened to me. I was paid off (quite handsomely) but agreed to the condition that I wouldn't go and work for a competitor or contact any of my previous company's customers. It is a bit of a compliment that they were frightened of what they saw as potential damage to their business. Both sides stuck to the agreement.
It happens quite a lot.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36322

derwent wrote:

PTID wrote:

If you pay an employee off you can indeed dictate wether they can work for someone else depends on the terms of the settlement.
If you sack someone outright it's different then you're not paying them anything and have no say.

That happened to me. I was paid off (quite handsomely) but agreed to the condition that I wouldn't go and work for a competitor or contact any of my previous company's customers. It is a bit of a compliment that they were frightened of what they saw as potential damage to their business. Both sides stuck to the agreement.
It happens quite a lot.

That happened to me……spent the entire summer from March till August and only went in on two days for courses

They’d offered me another job but wasn’t interested, so I suspect they hoped I’d change my mind.
In fact they stretched it out sol long I moved into the new tax year and moved up a the pay scale and they had to recalculate my redundancy money… :laugh:

Flying Hogans · **Joined:** Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:29 pm **Posts:** 5360

derwent wrote:

PTID wrote:

If you pay an employee off you can indeed dictate wether they can work for someone else depends on the terms of the settlement.
If you sack someone outright it's different then you're not paying them anything and have no say.

That happened to me. I was paid off (quite handsomely) but agreed to the condition that I wouldn't go and work for a competitor or contact any of my previous company's customers. It is a bit of a compliment that they were frightened of what they saw as potential damage to their business. Both sides stuck to the agreement.
It happens quite a lot.

That's as maybe, but Sarrl was sacked, pure and simple.

https://www.wokingnewsandmail.co.uk/spo ... lts-649592

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36322

Flying Hogans wrote:

derwent wrote:

PTID wrote:

If you pay an employee off you can indeed dictate wether they can work for someone else depends on the terms of the settlement.
If you sack someone outright it's different then you're not paying them anything and have no say.

That happened to me. I was paid off (quite handsomely) but agreed to the condition that I wouldn't go and work for a competitor or contact any of my previous company's customers. It is a bit of a compliment that they were frightened of what they saw as potential damage to their business. Both sides stuck to the agreement.
It happens quite a lot.

That's as maybe, but Sarrl was sacked, pure and simple.

https://www.wokingnewsandmail.co.uk/spo ... lts-649592

So?

Sigma1908 · **Joined:** Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:40 am **Posts:** 105

Flying Hogans wrote:

derwent wrote:

PTID wrote:

If you pay an employee off you can indeed dictate wether they can work for someone else depends on the terms of the settlement.
If you sack someone outright it's different then you're not paying them anything and have no say.

That happened to me. I was paid off (quite handsomely) but agreed to the condition that I wouldn't go and work for a competitor or contact any of my previous company's customers. It is a bit of a compliment that they were frightened of what they saw as potential damage to their business. Both sides stuck to the agreement.
It happens quite a lot.

That's as maybe, but Sarrl was sacked, pure and simple.

https://www.wokingnewsandmail.co.uk/spo ... lts-649592

Normally what happens.. we aint getting one in employment are we?

PTID · **Joined:** Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:07 pm **Posts:** 3893

DC had been sacked and was unemployed when we signed him, let's hope this fellow can do as good a job.

Critical Thinking · **Joined:** Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:50 am **Posts:** 2309

KP & DS have something in common;

KP was born in Hitchin (Herts) whilst DS played for Hitchin

Grayhoundend · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:13 pm **Posts:** 6644

Sigma1908 wrote:

Eiphos_3 wrote:

What an absolute joke - I did not expect the retained list to firstly have the managers name as the first one out. Plus still no Retained list.

First time i think ive ever been in the position where I didnt agree with a Hartlepool United Manager Sacking/ Letting go of !!! Absolutely obsurd at what rumours ive been hearing about the whole embargo ! Very annoying for the players too. Like the lads who are staying, having that confidence and relationship with KP and how hes gone. Not sure what that does for moral, just aswell it is end of season !

Ive heard its our resident fossil Lennie who has negotiated this shit show with Raj ! Waiting on the confirmed truth and i will share.

Sounds like the thing i said KP is possible of doing - He asked for X and got given Y and a boot out the door !

DS was clearly tinkering away in the background unless hes full of crap and hasnt been watching the games. There is a rabbit away, however there is a connection with Ronnie Moore too as i am sure he was his coach back at Rotherham.

Pointless ranting anyways - it is what it is... aslong as he has at least some cash available he probably can make a good go of it. Knows this level and has had some success. Just a shame KP could not of had a good crack at it as i think he was going to be a good manager for us !

hoping the retained list is out today ?

also hearing Sweens is gone as DS is bringing in a full new back team. !

theres loads of rumours going about mate best not to chew yourself up with it - One i heard was KP had been talking to other clubs ( which he was entitled to do ) and we all know what Raj is like with stuff like that.. We will probably never find out, unless KP turns up at a club this week.. then we know

Which clubs are available, Genuine ?

Sigma1908 · **Joined:** Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:40 am **Posts:** 105

Grayhoundend wrote:

Sigma1908 wrote:

Eiphos_3 wrote:

What an absolute joke - I did not expect the retained list to firstly have the managers name as the first one out. Plus still no Retained list.

First time i think ive ever been in the position where I didnt agree with a Hartlepool United Manager Sacking/ Letting go of !!! Absolutely obsurd at what rumours ive been hearing about the whole embargo ! Very annoying for the players too. Like the lads who are staying, having that confidence and relationship with KP and how hes gone. Not sure what that does for moral, just aswell it is end of season !

Ive heard its our resident fossil Lennie who has negotiated this shit show with Raj ! Waiting on the confirmed truth and i will share.

Sounds like the thing i said KP is possible of doing - He asked for X and got given Y and a boot out the door !

DS was clearly tinkering away in the background unless hes full of crap and hasnt been watching the games. There is a rabbit away, however there is a connection with Ronnie Moore too as i am sure he was his coach back at Rotherham.

Pointless ranting anyways - it is what it is... aslong as he has at least some cash available he probably can make a good go of it. Knows this level and has had some success. Just a shame KP could not of had a good crack at it as i think he was going to be a good manager for us !

hoping the retained list is out today ?

also hearing Sweens is gone as DS is bringing in a full new back team. !

theres loads of rumours going about mate best not to chew yourself up with it - One i heard was KP had been talking to other clubs ( which he was entitled to do ) and we all know what Raj is like with stuff like that.. We will probably never find out, unless KP turns up at a club this week.. then we know

Which clubs are available, Genuine ?

No idea i didnt make up the rumour, just one of many doing the rounds

Eiphos_3 · **Posted:** Mon Apr 29, 2024 3:57 pm

I think at this moment in time there is only 1 mangerless team in the NL and that being Borehamwood ?

Hasnt the York gaffer just signed on for longer too ?

although relegated - Kiddy kept Brown on even though he could not keep them up but tbh he did make them better during his short stint.

I cannot see a league team taking a punt on him ?

otherwise there maybe others closer to home in the NLS im sure he would interest.

ZNB12 · **Joined:** Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:50 pm **Posts:** 1120

Snowy wrote:

loyal_fan wrote:

Woking fans generally not impressed

And sounds like he had a good size budget at woking, apparently starts well but no plan b and it turns to shit….time
Will tell

https://cardsboard.co.uk/forum/viewtopi ... =2&t=13845

Ok we’ll sack him.

ffs.

That will be in October/November time.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36322

ZNB12 wrote:

Snowy wrote:

loyal_fan wrote:

Woking fans generally not impressed

And sounds like he had a good size budget at woking, apparently starts well but no plan b and it turns to shit….time
Will tell

https://cardsboard.co.uk/forum/viewtopi ... =2&t=13845

Ok we’ll sack him.

ffs.

That will be in October/November time.

Little ray of sunshine,
Pessimist I say,
What ya gonna do.
If it all turns out OK…..?

ZNB12 · **Joined:** Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:50 pm **Posts:** 1120

Snowy wrote:

ZNB12 wrote:

Snowy wrote:

loyal_fan wrote:

Woking fans generally not impressed

And sounds like he had a good size budget at woking, apparently starts well but no plan b and it turns to shit….time
Will tell

https://cardsboard.co.uk/forum/viewtopi ... =2&t=13845

Ok we’ll sack him.

ffs.

That will be in October/November time.

Little ray of sunshine,
Pessimist I say,
What ya gonna do.
If it all turns out OK…..?

Well, I won't be walking by then :laugh:

probably won't be speaking too. :angry-tappingfoot:

I'll probably won't be seeing the end of next season the way things are going for me. banghead

but who really cares, not me...

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12320

ZNB12 wrote:

Snowy wrote:

ZNB12 wrote:

Snowy wrote:

loyal_fan wrote:

Woking fans generally not impressed

And sounds like he had a good size budget at woking, apparently starts well but no plan b and it turns to shit….time
Will tell

https://cardsboard.co.uk/forum/viewtopi ... =2&t=13845

Ok we’ll sack him.

ffs.

That will be in October/November time.

Little ray of sunshine,
Pessimist I say,
What ya gonna do.
If it all turns out OK…..?

Well, I won't be walking by then :laugh:

probably won't be speaking too. :angry-tappingfoot:

I'll probably won't be seeing the end of next season the way things are going for me. banghead

but who really cares, not me...

You still no better then Mr Z. Sorry to hear that. Keep yer chin up laddie. All the best.
You do have something to whinge about, puts things into perspective.

ZNB12 · **Joined:** Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:50 pm **Posts:** 1120

derwent wrote:

You still no better then Mr Z. Sorry to hear that. Keep yer chin up laddie. All the best.
You do have something to whinge about, puts things into perspective.

Cheers 'Mr derwent' unfortunately still no better, just feeling worse everyday.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12320

ZNB12 wrote:

derwent wrote:

You still no better then Mr Z. Sorry to hear that. Keep yer chin up laddie. All the best.
You do have something to whinge about, puts things into perspective.

Cheers 'Mr derwent' unfortunately still no better, just feeling worse everyday.

So sorry mate. I've sent a message to the Big Fella up in the sky to go easy on you but, with my record, I might be doing you an injustice.
Keep posting when you feel able and I'll hold back the warriors if you get grief.

ZNB12 · **Joined:** Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:50 pm **Posts:** 1120

derwent wrote:

ZNB12 wrote:

derwent wrote:

You still no better then Mr Z. Sorry to hear that. Keep yer chin up laddie. All the best.
You do have something to whinge about, puts things into perspective.

Cheers 'Mr derwent' unfortunately still no better, just feeling worse everyday.

So sorry mate. I've sent a message to the Big Fella up in the sky to go easy on you but, with my record, I might be doing you an injustice.
Keep posting when you feel able and I'll hold back the warriors if you get grief.

Cheers

Grayhoundend · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:13 pm **Posts:** 6644

ZNB12 wrote:

derwent wrote:

ZNB12 wrote:

derwent wrote:

You still no better then Mr Z. Sorry to hear that. Keep yer chin up laddie. All the best.
You do have something to whinge about, puts things into perspective.

Cheers 'Mr derwent' unfortunately still no better, just feeling worse everyday.

So sorry mate. I've sent a message to the Big Fella up in the sky to go easy on you but, with my record, I might be doing you an injustice.
Keep posting when you feel able and I'll hold back the warriors if you get grief.

Cheers

All the best Matey

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 8900

ZNB12 wrote:

Snowy wrote:

loyal_fan wrote:

Woking fans generally not impressed

And sounds like he had a good size budget at woking, apparently starts well but no plan b and it turns to shit….time
Will tell

https://cardsboard.co.uk/forum/viewtopi ... =2&t=13845

Ok we’ll sack him.

ffs.

That will be in October/November time.

September

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7016

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