Connor Jennings

Flying Hogans · **Joined:** Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:29 pm **Posts:** 5383

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

So its now the fans fault? Think we need a proper recap. This guy had a massive opportunity to do something with this club. Promotion lead to crowds of 5500 to 6000 on fairly regular basis. What did he do with this nothing. Run it on the bare bones, taking forever to appoint managers, bringing in managers who even at the time most were shocked with. The club being ran where no one seems to want to stay for more than a year, even physios don't want to stay. Had 12 months last season to do something about an obvious demise. What did he do? Very little. Put the prices up to one of the highest in the league, ran the club like a conference north side. Let's stop being scared of him throwing his toys out the pram hey. He did that at darlo so why does he need an excuse here. If he doesn't want to be questioned he shouldn't of lied about play off budgets, told us no one had put a bid when it now appears a bid was put in for the club unless stellin was lying. Tells us this season oh we have a competitive budget again yet once again little happens. Let's not believe everything he says, of course he is going to say what we all want to hear. You call us doomongers but then end up saying the big concern is he will padlock the doors. If we do a Scunthorpe he might as well padlock the doors because we're only heading one direction with this guy anywhere near the club.

Excellent assessment of why we are were we are now Billy.
Struggling to see how you getting a bit of beef.

As for this buisness of a excellent Promotion budget for JA.
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Just for the record, it's fair to say Pools fans have been promised a competitive budget but nowhere has it been said it would be 'excellent' (except by you Kev

)

It's also fair to say nowt has happened for 2 1/2 weeks now since Dixon and Burton were signed and I won't be the only season ticket holder who expects a few more incomings before the 30th June - if I miss the Early Bird I'll be paying on the day next season.

kevin pooles gloves · **Joined:** Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:28 pm **Posts:** 8924

Flying Hogans wrote:

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

So its now the fans fault? Think we need a proper recap. This guy had a massive opportunity to do something with this club. Promotion lead to crowds of 5500 to 6000 on fairly regular basis. What did he do with this nothing. Run it on the bare bones, taking forever to appoint managers, bringing in managers who even at the time most were shocked with. The club being ran where no one seems to want to stay for more than a year, even physios don't want to stay. Had 12 months last season to do something about an obvious demise. What did he do? Very little. Put the prices up to one of the highest in the league, ran the club like a conference north side. Let's stop being scared of him throwing his toys out the pram hey. He did that at darlo so why does he need an excuse here. If he doesn't want to be questioned he shouldn't of lied about play off budgets, told us no one had put a bid when it now appears a bid was put in for the club unless stellin was lying. Tells us this season oh we have a competitive budget again yet once again little happens. Let's not believe everything he says, of course he is going to say what we all want to hear. You call us doomongers but then end up saying the big concern is he will padlock the doors. If we do a Scunthorpe he might as well padlock the doors because we're only heading one direction with this guy anywhere near the club.

Excellent assessment of why we are were we are now Billy.
Struggling to see how you getting a bit of beef.

As for this buisness of a excellent Promotion budget for JA.

Just for the record, it's fair to say Pools fans have been promised a competitive budget but nowhere has it been said it would be 'excellent' (except by you Kev

)

It's also fair to say nowt has happened for 2 1/2 weeks now since Dixon and Burton were signed and I won't be the only season ticket holder who expects a few more incomings before the 30th June - if I miss the Early Bird I'll be paying on the day next season.[/quote]

Excellent

reply Sir. :clap:

You paying on the day 23 times.
You mite miss out on them small allocation away games.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18928

[quote="PTID"]There's quite a few supposedly in the know websites that claim our budget last season was on a par with Carlisle
the difference was if true that they had a manager who succeeded there before and not an experimentlal one from scotland. then all clubs come out with having a promotion budget or a competitive one. still waiting for a club to come out with the fact of having a bottom 4 budget with them expecting a relegation battle from day 1. the thing now with raj is most fans will never believe him now even if he tells the truth. this is not the fans fault unless they had an agenda against the bloke from day 1 but his.

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4376

accrington fan wrote:

PTID wrote:

There's quite a few supposedly in the know websites that claim our budget last season was on a par with Carlisle
the difference was if true that they had a manager who succeeded there before and not an experimentlal one from scotland. then all clubs come out with having a promotion budget or a competitive one. still waiting for a club to come out with the fact of having a bottom 4 budget with them expecting a relegation battle from day 1. the thing now with raj is most fans will never believe him now even if he tells the truth. this is not the fans fault unless they had an agenda against the bloke from day 1 but his.

Also if this budget was so great, why have we tried to get gramme Lee in and then Hartley, surely you would go out and get a decent proven manager in if this mysteriously improving budget which keeps getting bigger by the week was so good. Fans also forget to get all these players in we released most of the big earners in to get them.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18928

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

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Also if this budget was so great, why have we tried to get gramme Lee in and then Hartley, surely you would go out and get a decent proven manager in if this mysteriously improving budget which keeps getting bigger by the week was so good. Fans also forget to get all these players in we released most of the big earners in to get them.

we do not know what the budgets have ever been. never thought we had the lowest but no way a top one even in the challinor non league period. looking at last season i,d put my money on something like where we finished in our first season back. does anyone know for a fact and not a rumour how much a single pools player is on a week. who actually knows a pools player like some did years ago to get a rough idea. think our secret service could learn something from todays football and the secrecy involved in it.

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4376

Chesterfield not messing about signed a lad that played 36 times in the championship last year.

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12320

accrington fan wrote:

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

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Also if this budget was so great, why have we tried to get gramme Lee in and then Hartley, surely you would go out and get a decent proven manager in if this mysteriously improving budget which keeps getting bigger by the week was so good. Fans also forget to get all these players in we released most of the big earners in to get them.

we do not know what the budgets have ever been. never thought we had the lowest but no way a top one even in the challinor non league period. looking at last season i,d put my money on something like where we finished in our first season back. does anyone know for a fact and not a rumour how much a single pools player is on a week. who actually knows a pools player like some did years ago to get a rough idea. think our secret service could learn something from todays football and the secrecy involved in it.

I have known plenty of Pools players and staff employed by the club but only one has shown me a contract and that was Kenny Johnson, who showed me his first contract after signing from Seaton Holy Trinity in 1949 ( I think the year is right). He didn't show me that until boxing day 2004 !!!!! The vast majority of "statements" on wages, budgets and transfer fees are guesswork, speculation or simply made up tripe.

Flying Hogans · **Joined:** Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:29 pm **Posts:** 5383

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

Just for the record, it's fair to say Pools fans have been promised a competitive budget but nowhere has it been said it would be 'excellent' (except by you Kev

)

It's also fair to say nowt has happened for 2 1/2 weeks now since Dixon and Burton were signed and I won't be the only season ticket holder who expects a few more incomings before the 30th June - if I miss the Early Bird I'll be paying on the day next season.

Excellent

reply Sir. :clap:

You paying on the day 23 times.
You mite miss out on them small allocation away games.[/quote]

Dunno about that. I always miss a few even with a season ticket- might pick and choose a bit more without one. Don't say you haven't been warned Mr. Chairman :naughty:

Seriously, the best thing about an ST is you're guaranteed a ticket for play-off games. Would have been absolutely gutted to miss the Bristol final. Much as I rate John Askey, he'll need a much better squad than the one he's got at the minute for me to start looking forward to the play-offs.

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4376

Flying Hogans wrote:

kevin pooles gloves wrote:

Just for the record, it's fair to say Pools fans have been promised a competitive budget but nowhere has it been said it would be 'excellent' (except by you Kev

)

It's also fair to say nowt has happened for 2 1/2 weeks now since Dixon and Burton were signed and I won't be the only season ticket holder who expects a few more incomings before the 30th June - if I miss the Early Bird I'll be paying on the day next season.

Excellent

reply Sir. :clap:

You paying on the day 23 times.
You mite miss out on them small allocation away games.

Dunno about that. I always miss a few even with a season ticket- might pick and choose a bit more without one. Don't say you haven't been warned Mr. Chairman :naughty:

Seriously, the best thing about an ST is you're guaranteed a ticket for play-off games. Would have been absolutely gutted to miss the Bristol final. Much as I rate John Askey, he'll need a much better squad than the one he's got at the minute for me to start looking forward to the play-offs.[/quote]

As derwent basically said raj isn't going to break the bank to give us a team to fight at the top, he will keep things ticking over. So I'm not sure it's askey we need more like houdini.

PTID · **Joined:** Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:07 pm **Posts:** 3941

What we have now under Askey is certainly capable of competing at the top of the NL, under Askey we managed to compete and take points off a lot of the top Div 2 sides.. Last season the NL had 2 outstanding teams who finished almost 40 points clear of the last play off position, so generally the standard will not be good and finishing top 7 should be realistic.

Flying Hogans · **Joined:** Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:29 pm **Posts:** 5383

PTID wrote:

What we have now under Askey is certainly capable of competing at the top of the NL, under Askey we managed to compete and take points off a lot of the top Div 2 sides.. Last season the NL had 2 outstanding teams who finished almost 40 points clear of the last play off position, so generally the standard will not be good and finishing top 7 should be realistic.

As a minimum Pools still need to add pace and strength in midfield and a goalscoring forward - not mention someone to play off the goalscoring forward, unless you believe Grey is finally going to come good or that Hastie will take the NL by storm? :laugh:

Don't forget, there's zero chance that Sylla will stay and the odds on Umerah sticking around are hardly any better.

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4376

PTID wrote:

What we have now under Askey is certainly capable of competing at the top of the NL, under Askey we managed to compete and take points off a lot of the top Div 2 sides.. Last season the NL had 2 outstanding teams who finished almost 40 points clear of the last play off position, so generally the standard will not be good and finishing top 7 should be realistic.

Don't forget the on loan lads have gone back. The 1 goal in 2 games midfielder we had. The team that got those results won't be there at the start of the season.

PTID · **Joined:** Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:07 pm **Posts:** 3941

Don't forget it's NL we're in and the quality of opposition is seriously weaker than div 2.
We've got the basis of a decent defence for that level in Dodds, Pruti, Fergy, Lacey, and even Murray if he can play as he did under Askey.
Midfield we've got Cooke, Crawford,Dolan, Finney, agree need a solid ball winner. / grafter in the Sylla mold, and pace / width.
Umerah and Grey should be capable at this lower level, yes we need more.
But the last 2 seasons we've been preparing later and from a smaller base squad to play at a higher level. Plus Askey knows this level inside out, he's got promotion on limited budgets before. And they're the reason I'm more optimistic for this season than for the last 2.

billinghampoolie1908 · **Joined:** Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:52 pm **Posts:** 4376

PTID wrote:

Don't forget it's NL we're in and the quality of opposition is seriously weaker than div 2.
We've got the basis of a decent defence for that level in Dodds, Pruti, Fergy, Lacey, and even Murray if he can play as he did under Askey.
Midfield we've got Cooke, Crawford,Dolan, Finney, agree need a solid ball winner. / grafter in the Sylla mold, and pace / width.
Umerah and Grey should be capable at this lower level, yes we need more.
But the last 2 seasons we've been preparing later and from a smaller base squad to play at a higher level. Plus Askey knows this level inside out, he's got promotion on limited budgets before. And they're the reason I'm more optimistic for this season than for the last 2.

Askey is our one major hope. I'd be surprised if umerah is still here first game. I'm not sure about the defence, couldn't keep a clean sheet to save their lives last year. No doubting the national league is way weaker, possibly for years, most the clubs seem a mess or had problems.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18928

billinghampoolie1908 wrote:

PTID wrote:

Don't forget it's NL we're in and the quality of opposition is seriously weaker than div 2.
We've got the basis of a decent defence for that level in Dodds, Pruti, Fergy, Lacey, and even Murray if he can play as he did under Askey.
Midfield we've got Cooke, Crawford,Dolan, Finney, agree need a solid ball winner. / grafter in the Sylla mold, and pace / width.
Umerah and Grey should be capable at this lower level, yes we need more.
But the last 2 seasons we've been preparing later and from a smaller base squad to play at a higher level. Plus Askey knows this level inside out, he's got promotion on limited budgets before. And they're the reason I'm more optimistic for this season than for the last 2.

Askey is our one major hope. I'd be surprised if umerah is still here first game. I'm not sure about the defence, couldn't keep a clean sheet to save their lives last year. No doubting the national league is way weaker, possibly for years, most the clubs seem a mess or had problems.

not expecting to see umerah or sylla in a pools shirt again. we competed quite well without either last season at the end. there was no fodder in div.2 but there will be next. just need to muscle out and match teams in energy and stength to gain a few results more results. think most remember what these teams were like last time. big strong lads who put themselves about but skill was at a minimum. pre challinor we could not handle teams like that and got bullied out by them and poor match officials. askey knows the score whilst others did not.

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