Think Hereford n Halifax have been relegated twice from the EFL. But i dont remember any team being promoted to the EFL twice.
So can understand the vast majority of Poolies accept its goodbye forever if we go down twice.
However it aint over yet. But it could be by 1st of February.
Even though we only 2 pts adrift id class KCs task even harder than Ronnie Moores greatescape season.
.Maybe Monday nite a plum draw money fest happens and it hits the pitch.
We will get past Harrogate surely

UTP.

I don’t accept the idea that if we go down we can never recover, what’s the point of supporting your club with that sort of defeatist mindset.
Might as well leave Polls and join the ‘West Hartlepool Misery and Burial Brotherhood.
Fuck me

Always say die

Barnet for one. Promoted to the League from the Conference in 2005 and 2015. They were originally promoted to the Football League in 1991.

I reckon Pools have a better chance of staying up than they do of beating Harrogate on Saturday. Wonder whose turn it is to play centre back if Ferguson isn't fit?

hate to say it but along with rochdale pools were very lucky in the past to stay a league club as long as they did. was always expecting the worst when applying for re election when the senior bradford club. park avenus were voted out. has the club learned much over the years, i wonder.

I agree, but….. down the years, no one with any sort of money was ever interested in the club so it was left to small local business men to basically keep the club on life support and god bless ‘em for doing it…. The money was never there till IOR turned up,,, but since then it’s getting someone with the money we need to move on….OR …spend what money there is more wisely, other clubs have done it.

Raj could do with selling us... unfortunately no one wants a league club sitting bottom of the league with a below standard set of players !

Raj also - thankfully has spent money and made money available ( its the pathetic wasting of said money by bad management which has got us where we are realistically!) and may i add still making money available for these free agents !

we just need a really good bit of luck - some CBs who are league quality and dare i say it a new GK (im finally done defending the flapper and he needs dropping). Add in maybe another CAM and a CF and we can get out of this bother - but all the players we need have to be good... not just league quality but GOOD league players ! with experience !

but going back to the original post... i think we would get out of the league again. Given the NL is probably alot tougher of a place than it was when we got promoted at the minute, i feel that if we went down this time, it would be equally as shite as it was when we first went down... There would be no Money bags Stockport and likely Wrexham... id imagine Notts County going up this year too.. so alot of the so called big teams wont be there. I think we would be one of the biggest teams in that division again and given the experience we now have, we could potentially get out of it again - just need an Armstrong an Oates and we would be sound - imagine we loose alot of the half decent players we have now though and it would be like starting all over again - so reckon it would take us a good 4 year again !

[quote="Eiphos_3"]Raj could do with selling us... unfortunately no one wants a league club sitting bottom of the league with a below standard set of players !

seems that way but it should not be. stockport were took over only months after they went full time and accrington and morecambe who if they get a good gate its because of the number of away fans that turn up have both been promoted with new owners. There must be more clubs like that with no more potential than pools have. would actually be happier owned by a group of people rather than one man who singularly has too much power for the good of the club at the moment and the future.

Amen to that Mr Gee.

Its a realist mindset with the way the club is being run like a jokeshop. Remember this season was about promotion with the promise of stella signings.
No doubt your version of recovery will differ to the majority of Poolies.
Get a new hobby Batman.

A full 12d.

Change the tune, that’s in the past now. We’re in the shite and of course I feel let down by what happened but there’s no way I’m gonna spend the season wringing my hands…. and no, I’m not in a minority….. you might get some obscure pleasure expecting the worst, personally I think it helps if you at least hope for the best but that’s all I can do, hope, but it beats resigning yourself to the worst.
Batman…..you the Penguin…?

Riddler

Dont get no pleasure whatsoever.
I used to hope for the best but that ship has sailed.
Theres probably no other poster that posts the words hopefully than me.
Looks like we will continue to disagree.
Only football and SM wordage.
The round world keeps rotating.
UTP.

Kev, I’m not disagreeing with anyone, especially you, so lose the idea I am….I’m just hoping and praying things turn out, nowt else I can do, unless the Euro millions comes up and as I’ve never bought a ticket in my life it could be a problem.

got yo hope as there is sod all else we can do. as fans we cannot change the situation and at my age i,d hate my last game at the vic would be in non league. fair play to anyone starting supporting pools during that 4 year period but i doubt i,d have been one of them.

Absolutely debatable

One day everyone will wake up and realise that there is nothing we fans can do, except hope and pray that everything will be ok and we don't lose our football identity. So far since 1908 we have trundled along and are still managing to do so.
As Poolies this is our destiny until the mercurial sugar daddy, who has shunned us so far, finally appears.
In the great scheme of things we have had ten minutes of relative sunshine with IOR and maybe that is all we're gonna get.
No one knows but maybe not knowing is the thing that keeps us going, locked in the faith that one day..............................

Fairplay
Like u said SM communication can go slightly off track.
UTP.

its hard to be a pools fan and we are not alone in this. its hard when you are a realist but it must be hell for those who are lifetime optimists.

Its a bad/sometimes good drug being a poolie that only ends when ya boneyard time arrives.
Just slightly disheartend after being in the 2nd best atmosphere ever at the Vic in February v Rotherham to where we heading now is a bit unreal.
Keep the Faith
UTP.

[quote="kevin pooles gloves"][

Its a bad/sometimes good drug being a poolie that only ends when ya boneyard time arrives.

could be before that for me. pools have not helped but i,m growing away from football in general and have no way the same interest i once had because how the game is going where every new rule and referees interpretations of em are just not for me. offside law, lads getting cards for mistakes, tackling nearly outlawed and thats at the game. all the other stuff behind the scenes like bankrolled no mark clubs, womens game shoved down our throats, tele pundits and kneeling down and politics in the game are things i never signed up for. how many really memorable games do we get now in a good season never mind a bad one.

I think you are speaking for a lot of people there Mr Accy. Can't argue with any of that.

Not really. Optimists operate on the assumption that however bad today is, tomorrow might be better.

Lincoln and Grimsby have both been out twice and got back in

We've been out twice and got back once

Wasn't that a different Darlington Mr. Star

In name only.

The irony was we had to change our name and it couldn’t be Darlington AFC for example as it was too similar to Darlington FC.
Wind on a few years and Bury FC are now Bury AFC. One rule for us and another for them. At least we didn’t miss a full season.

The change of name is a mere technicality of no relevance, Darlo is Darlo, it’s the fans who count and they stuck by their club regardless.
They have my deepest respect.

another utter load of bull crap like the rest i have quoted. darlo is darlo like wimbledon are still wimbledon with or without the AFC crap before their name.

The sweet FA would rather wear pouncy Armbands, Than allow players voice Their own opinion.

Theses armband are all about LGBXYZ or whatever it is. What about the workers who are getting killed building the stadiums or the women in Iran, there’s lots more terrible things in the context of this competition so why not highlight them too.
Better still, keep politics out of sport.

I think going on the pitch with an armband reading 'Qatari Murderers' would get 'Arry more than a booking...

funny how little was said about all these issues with little publicity about workers deaths until it was really too late to pull out of the competition. only in the last month has the media been all over this and its been going on for years. do think though that gay and trans rights trump any other issue now.

It is sickening isn't it? The lot of them falling over themselves to out virtue signal the other. If they actually gave a stuff they would have refused to participate but no...... the money and potential for glory (inevitably followed by sponsorship and book deals) is too much to give up so they wear rainbow laces and almost wear rainbow arm bands. Of course England "take the knee" because racism is such a problem in the UK. Thats one good thing about being a Pools fan. You can have occasional success and plenty of misery but at least you don't have politics force fed.

funny how pre covid we never had all this stuff as if the issues were never a problem. too little to do to occupy peoples minds in that period and ended up in the shit we are now in. would be great to have a hero he actually came out with something many are thinking by saying they could not care a toss about minorities as i have my own preoblems to deal with. cannot imagine a person with any illness, even a non terminal one, is really bothered for a minute about minority rights over the majority.

Well Menayese made know difference yesterday.
When something bad happens some people try to shut it out with delerious Hope and to some extent it numbs the inevitable Pain.

Its called the Denial Process.
If we dont win at Crawley fri nite i will come out of the DP

In a word NO, you reap what you sow…..cheerio.

Or you reap what the transient sugar daddy will sow.

[quote="kevin pooles gloves"][
Well Menayese made know difference yesterday.

i,ll give him a bit of xlack as he has had some good games in the bank, a few of the others bests have been totally mediocre and others have always been poor and sub standard.

Now now don’t be bitter, your in this position because of the way you are run.We were worth investing in hence the two new stands being built, you had a great opportunity after you won promotion and simply spunked all Challinor good work up the wall, us on the other hand got over our play off defeat and cracked on, investing on the pitch and off it, the reason? well maybe our “sugar daddy “ owner saw potential. Raj has probably seen what you have, nothing, and decided to be very cautious with his outlay….reap what you sow.

its not quite as simple as all that. raj is miles away from being mark stott in terms of wealth and your area with its population is always going to have an edge on ours. top premiers league clubs are not for everyone and you,ll always get the fans in if you continue winning. swap owners finances and the boot could well be on the other foot no matter what the real interest they both have.

Well worth noting Oldham and Scunthorpe occupy the bottom two places in the NL.

Correct, we are reaping , zippity doo da day.

Former Premier n Championship teams about 20 years ago.
Well we were 8 mins away.
How the times are a changing.

Enjoy…because you’ll be shitting yourself when the wings fall off…and believe you me ….they do.
You’ll soon know how committed they are if they aren’t in the playoffs, Challinor will be out…… if they’re ambitious…if not,then you’ll find you’ve got a transient owner.

Fantasist….You have the daydream of every other lower league club with ideas detached from reality, one comes along every season.
In the real world however, you have all the potential of a strip club in Iran.

enjoy whilst you can. you did it once in the championship once and let it go to end up being hammered 6 or 7 ay alfreton just over 10 years later. most traditional bottom yier clubs have their day and eventually drop to their normal level or below. ask fans at doncaster, buty, oldham, scunthotpe and many others.

Realist, your the fantasist predicting the future, we have an owner in the Dave Whelan mode only better, you will reap what your owner sows, one can only fantasise what that will be