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 Post subject: Re: Harrogate predictions and thread
PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:09 pm 
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Yes, but Bates signed Anderson to play on the pitch which is undoubtedly not where he should be.

The fact I'm making though is I'm convinced it's not the manager that is the problem at this club. Money has proven his credentials previously at this level so I'm all for giving him the opportunity to turn the club around. Most won't want to hear it but we should judge him from next season when he's had chance to remove the shite from the club.


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Yes, but Bates signed Anderson to play on the pitch which is undoubtedly not where he should be.

The fact I'm making though is I'm convinced it's not the manager that is the problem at this club. Money has proven his credentials previously at this level so I'm all for giving him the opportunity to turn the club around. Most won't want to hear it but we should judge him from next season when he's had chance to remove the shite from the club.


If he is a manager who knows what he is doing, why would he pick Richardson, Magnay and Kitching?
There isnt a footballer in them if you put their best bits together.
Fuckin clueless.

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Yes, but Bates signed Anderson to play on the pitch which is undoubtedly not where he should be.

The fact I'm making though is I'm convinced it's not the manager that is the problem at this club. Money has proven his credentials previously at this level so I'm all for giving him the opportunity to turn the club around. Most won't want to hear it but we should judge him from next season when he's had chance to remove the shite from the club.


The players are not good enough I agree, but make the best of what u have by playing players in position and with a clear game plan. Not once under Money has it looked like anyone knew what they were supposed to be doing or how they were supposed to be playing.

As for the line ups, words fail me. Players at this level ain't good enough to play different positions, especially when he seems to start with 2 or 3 every game in an unfamiliar position.

No signs they are playing for the manager either.

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If he is a manager who knows what he is doing, why would he pick Richardson, Magnay and Kitching?
There isnt a footballer in them if you put their best bits together.
Fuckin clueless.

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I'm not going again until I hear Richardson and Kitching have gone.

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Every time we are on the telly we see atrocious defending gifting the opposition a goal or even two.

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I'm not going again until I hear Richardson and Kitching have gone.

You've probably just bagged them long term deals then!


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derwent wrote:
Every time we are on the telly we see atrocious defending gifting the opposition a goal or even two.


To be fair we do this also when not on the telly!


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I wouldn't pick Featherstone and Magnay again, scatter them. I have heard stuff around the Davies departure and they were mentioned. Not good enough, to think they both wore the captains armband today as well. Featherstone gave the ball away twice for that second goal, embarrassing.


Get rid of these proven losers.


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SpongeBob wrote:
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Every time we are on the telly we see atrocious defending gifting the opposition a goal or even two.


To be fair we do this also when not on the telly!

Aye you're right.

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If Messrs Hignett and Money don't watch that back and drop at least 4 of them and I mean not in the squad, Featherstone, Magnay, Richardson and Kitchen.
Although James, Cassidy and Anderson would be lucky to warm a bench, fucking desperate times!!!

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I wouldn't pick Featherstone and Magnay again, scatter them. I have heard stuff around the Davies departure and they were mentioned. Not good enough, to think they both wore the captains armband today as well. Featherstone gave the ball away twice for that second goal, embarrassing.


Get rid of these proven losers.

We need two full backs too. Now regards Cassidy.......he’s big and that’s about it. It’s the same Cassidy we sent out.

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Cassidy did alright on limited supply he got. How many times did one of our back four give away the ball in a dangerous area?


The midfield looked better in the last twenty minutes with Donaldson and Kioso in there, at least Kioso is mobile and
gets around the pitch.

Loach 7

Richardson 2
Raynes 5 (he'll be a good signing though)
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Kitching 4

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Featherstone 1 (Kioso 6)
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Cassidy did alright on limited supply he got. How many times did one of our back four give away the ball in a dangerous area?


The midfield looked better in the last twenty minutes with Donaldson and Kioso in there, at least Kioso is mobile and gets around the pitch.


Yet he starts on the bench sctatchinghead

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Cassidy had little to go off and was as good as I've seen him play.
Richardson was found out for their 3rd but I thought he did OK other than that.

There's no defending Featherstone, which is ironically what he did all game, no defending. Magnay trying to argue a blatant shirt pull that couldn't have been clearer to the ref was tragic. He's not a centre back for a back 4, surely Kioso would be a better option?


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He surely won't next game?


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No need for panic, quite the opposite, but the time has come to get ruthless and draw a line under one or two who have proven time and again that they are not good enough.


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Can only assume Raj cudent afford to sack the rest of the coaching staff wen Bates got binned.
Anyway whoever u blame for this shit 4 wins required to stay up.
But we're they coming from?


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Snowy wrote:
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I wouldn't pick Featherstone and Magnay again, scatter them. I have heard stuff around the Davies departure and they were mentioned. Not good enough, to think they both wore the captains armband today as well. Featherstone gave the ball away twice for that second goal, embarrassing.


Get rid of these proven losers.

We need two full backs too. Now regards Cassidy......he’s big and that’s about it. It’s the same Cassidy we sent out.



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Can only assume Raj cudent afford to sack the rest of the coaching staff wen Bates got binned.
Anyway whoever u blame for this shit 4 wins required to stay up.
But we're they coming from?


Raj won,t be touching the coaching staff but somebody close to the touchline i think.
After all Bates was well thought of.

People keep going on about players but this manager confuses me after every statement he makes.
He contradicts himself time after time.

So what he,s doing to the players, They have to spend hours with him.


Shortly after the Maidstone game, He stated "Wait till ten days time and see"
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Players looked lacking in confidence, fearful of expressing themselves, miserable and confused as to what to do.
What has happened to many of these players since the start of the season when you saw them laughing and joking with each other before games and then putting on a performance?
Surely you cant blame them individually when they all now ALL look a shadow of themselves.
Whats going on????

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PJPoolie wrote:
No need for panic, quite the opposite, but the time has come to get ruthless and draw a line under one or two who have proven time and again that they are not good enough.


No need to panic?
Are you a manager? You always seem to shot down people on here.
Do do know what Ruthless is? That 90% of the team you would have to drop. So who would you play or sign this week.


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Players looked lacking in confidence, fearful of expressing themselves, miserable and confused as to what to do.
Whats going on????

I respectfully think its worse than that.
One thing they lack is footballing skill; first touch, passing ability, heading ability. I hope they don't try to express themselves
I'm afraid after years off financial mismanagement (theft and fraud [allegedly]), accepting shite players and losing any half decent ones we had we have been left with the bottom of the barrel scrapings.

Money is trying to make a team out of National League North standard or worse players.

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Bluestreak wrote:
Players looked lacking in confidence, fearful of expressing themselves, miserable and confused as to what to do.
Whats going on????

I respectfully think its worse than that.
One thing they lack is footballing skill; first touch, passing ability, heading ability. I hope they don't try to express themselves
I'm afraid after years off financial mismanagement (theft and fraud [allegedly]), accepting shite players and losing any half decent ones we had we have been left with the bottom of the barrel scrapings.

Money is trying to make a team out of National League North standard or worse players.


I have always made a case for Richardson , but he sounded dreadful today. Still I think we should persevere with him for another couple of games, but its worrying how players quickly deteriorate at Pools, Donaldson another who is a shadow of the player of the first 15 games of the season. We still are attempting to play it out from the back, tika taka style, this can't be Moneys way, his loan signing suggest he believes a more direct approach is what is required. Harrogate were direct , as are most teams at this level, but its not just being direct in itself, you have to be strong , tall, fit and fast, to fit that system , in Harrogates case they also have the advantage of a 3G pitch that susses out any opponents who aren't fit or lack good technique. I would like to think we trained on a 3G pitch this week , but nothing would surprise me at HUFC.

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We were shocking. Did we even make Heir keeper work at all?

The ironic jeers for featherstone’s substitution could probably do without that though.


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Chesterfield, one of the worst teams so far this season, enjoying a nice new manager bump.

We had no game plan today. Donaldson as centre midfield... honestly, it’s never gonna happen. BIN


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I think what we need to bear in mind is that we're very much a squad on zero confidence, on a downward spiral playing away to a side absolutely full of it. It was always likely to be a struggle and it was. The errors were pretty embarrassing and far too numerous. I don't really get why the squad is so desperately low, I really don't. Losing breeds losing but I don't get why we're clearly utterly bereft of any confidence at all.

We also played all 3 new lads from the first minute, bearing in mind they won't even know the names of their teammates - never going to be a receipe for success is it? Especially against a squad buzzing with confidence.

It again boils down to the one thing the modern day football manager/club gets zero of. Time.

If there is something in the claim that a club full of players who suffer regular defeats and/or relegation are a cancer at a club then a clearout would be sensible but haven't we just had that?? There aren't that many left and even fewer who play in the first team all the time. Before a ball was kicked I loved the look of the players brought in and the first few games were great to watch. I said to a mate that it was the best squad of players I'd seen at Pools for a quite a few years and I honestly fancied us to do well....which makes the wheels coming off in the rather spectacular fashion they have difficult to fathom. We'll never know fully what's going on behind the scenes (other than compo obviously) and speculation is utterly pointless and just creates more trouble amongst the supporters as random bullshit statements said a few times quickly become fact in the eyes of the fans and everything goes into meltdown from made up shite.

We are in transition (yes, again) but that's what happens when a new manager comes in and inherits the issues that got the last one sacked. Managers are not miracle workers. Granted you expect a bounce when a new gaffer comes in but it's not a given and we did have a minor upturn.

In the past we've screamed at managers to sub players having a mare and stood there mouths agape when they play the full 90. Today at least, Money brought off two senior players who were playing dog shit so fair play to him for doing that.

As for the rest of today, at least Kabamba did his job. He scored. The defending really was fucking awful. I know that Richardson is liked by some on here and yes I get that he's young but fuck me, he really isn't ready and I question whether he ever will be. Always easy to beat (I remember his debut and he had an absolute shocker, he looked completely off the pace and out of his depth), poor crossing and a 10 bob head - just what does he offer the team and how does he win a place in front of Kioso?

From minute 1 Magnay was probably the worst I have seen him. Absolutely terrible. Couldn't fucking pass and his decision making was abysmal. Rightly hooked at half time.

I don't really get why we play James on the wing? When he played for us the first time round he played in his best position, up front. He needs the ball playing in behind the back four for him to run on to. I would fancy him in one on ones. And the long ball to our smallest player? I will never understand that. Ever. We do it so often it can't be chance. All I can think is whoever is trying to play it to him is looking to get his marker turned but if that's the case, they fuck it up every time and need to abandon it.

Somebody needs to be feeding off Cassidy but if the gap between the 2 forwards is 30 yards, it isn't going to fucking work. I would play Cassidy and James up front, they both work hard and if they could get an understanding going I would fancy them to do well.

Anyway, can't be arsed typing owt else. It was a very shit day at the officd but there were reasons for it....
1) they were decent and full of it
2) we had 3 strangers in the side
3) we have no confidence, literally none
4) a good few players and senior ones at that, all had shockers

Let's see the season out and give Money time to mould the side he wants and then judge him.


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It will depend on what league we start in next year. If it’s an 18 months project then the way we are playing we are scheduled to start picking it up halfway through national league north next season


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It will depend on what league we start in next year. If it’s an 18 months project then the way we are playing we are scheduled to start picking it up halfway through national league north next season


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I think what we need to bear in mind is that we're very much a squad on zero confidence, on a downward spiral playing away to a side absolutely full of it. It was always likely to be a struggle and it was. The errors were pretty embarrassing and far too numerous. I don't really get why the squad is so desperately low, I really don't. Losing breeds losing but I don't get why we're clearly utterly bereft of any confidence at all.

We also played all 3 new lads from the first minute, bearing in mind they won't even know the names of their teammates - never going to be a receipe for success is it? Especially against a squad buzzing with confidence.

It again boils down to the one thing the modern day football manager/club gets zero of. Time.

If there is something in the claim that a club full of players who suffer regular defeats and/or relegation are a cancer at a club then a clearout would be sensible but haven't we just had that?? There aren't that many left and even fewer who play in the first team all the time. Before a ball was kicked I loved the look of the players brought in and the first few games were great to watch. I said to a mate that it was the best squad of players I'd seen at Pools for a quite a few years and I honestly fancied us to do well....which makes the wheels coming off in the rather spectacular fashion they have difficult to fathom. We'll never know fully what's going on behind the scenes (other than compo obviously) and speculation is utterly pointless and just creates more trouble amongst the supporters as random bullshit statements said a few times quickly become fact in the eyes of the fans and everything goes into meltdown from made up shite.

We are in transition (yes, again) but that's what happens when a new manager comes in and inherits the issues that got the last one sacked. Managers are not miracle workers. Granted you expect a bounce when a new gaffer comes in but it's not a given and we did have a minor upturn.

In the past we've screamed at managers to sub players having a mare and stood there mouths agape when they play the full 90. Today at least, Money brought off two senior players who were playing dog shit so fair play to him for doing that.

As for the rest of today, at least Kabamba did his job. He scored. The defending really was fucking awful. I know that Richardson is liked by some on here and yes I get that he's young but fuck me, he really isn't ready and I question whether he ever will be. Always easy to beat (I remember his debut and he had an absolute shocker, he looked completely off the pace and out of his depth), poor crossing and a 10 bob head - just what does he offer the team and how does he win a place in front of Kioso?

From minute 1 Magnay was probably the worst I have seen him. Absolutely terrible. Couldn't fucking pass and his decision making was abysmal. Rightly hooked at half time.

I don't really get why we play James on the wing? When he played for us the first time round he played in his best position, up front. He needs the ball playing in behind the back four for him to run on to. I would fancy him in one on ones. And the long ball to our smallest player? I will never understand that. Ever. We do it so often it can't be chance. All I can think is whoever is trying to play it to him is looking to get his marker turned but if that's the case, they fuck it up every time and need to abandon it.

Somebody needs to be feeding off Cassidy but if the gap between the 2 forwards is 30 yards, it isn't going to fucking work. I would play Cassidy and James up front, they both work hard and if they could get an understanding going I would fancy them to do well.

Anyway, can't be arsed typing owt else. It was a very shit day at the officd but there were reasons for it....
1) they were decent and full of it
2) we had 3 strangers in the side
3) we have no confidence, literally none
4) a good few players and senior ones at that, all had shockers

Let's see the season out and give Money time to mould the side he wants and then judge him.


Well said Shilts, agree with most of what you say but not all of it, but respect for taking the time to type out such a long post, I couldnt be arsed to be honest. I think Money was right to play the 3 new players, no reason why they shouldnt of slotted straight in seamlessly, I would say it usually works more than it doesnt , and has at Pools in the past, so I wouldnt say that was to blame, though Molyneux hardly touched the ball, but that could of been because he was playing out of position. Raynes had a nervy start but I think will be an asset , and Kabamba scored, which is what he is paid to do, may not work as hard as James but as a striker has proved already he can get goals.

My worry is few more bad performances like this and the loans will just morph into the zombie like state of the rest of the team. Yet again the next game becomes the most important of the season.

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Cassidy did alright on limited supply he got. How many times did one of our back four give away the ball in a dangerous area?


The midfield looked better in the last twenty minutes with Donaldson and Kioso in there, at least Kioso is mobile and
gets around the pitch.

Loach 7

Richardson 2
Raynes 5 (he'll be a good signing though)
Magnay 0 (Anderson 4)
Kitching 4

James 3 (Hawkes 4)
Donaldson 6
Featherstone 1 (Kioso 6)
Molyneux 5

Cassidy 6
Kabamba 6


Can't see how Donaldson got a 6 he didn't have 6 touches in the first half the game passed him by completely


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But if that's what needs to happen, so be it. Obviously dropping down another division could be club ending but if it isn't and someone said to me 'right, you'll go down but from there you'll rebuild and be back in the football league within 3 seasons' I would probably take that.

Looking for instant solutions isn't going to work and chopping and changing managers/players with no real long term strategy will just ensure we lurch from one disaster to another with a few spikes of relative success.

If we properly believe he is the man to sort us out then stick with him. (Eg Dyche at Burnley etc etc)


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I'm not going again until I hear Richardson and Kitching have gone.


This is the only positive to take from today


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PJPoolie wrote:
Cassidy did alright on limited supply he got. How many times did one of our back four give away the ball in a dangerous area?


The midfield looked better in the last twenty minutes with Donaldson and Kioso in there, at least Kioso is mobile and
gets around the pitch.

Loach 7

Richardson 2
Raynes 5 (he'll be a good signing though)
Magnay 0 (Anderson 4)
Kitching 4

James 3 (Hawkes 4)
Donaldson 6
Featherstone 1 (Kioso 6)
Molyneux 5

Cassidy 6
Kabamba 6


Can't see how Donaldson got a 6 he didn't have 6 touches in the first half the game passed him by completely


Maybe those numbers are the amount of touches :laugh:if so I dispute Molyneuxs 5 :laugh:

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In answer to Mr horden...

Yeah, I often can't be arsed posting at all and quickly get fed up of typing. There's a shed load more I want to say but just can not be arsed.

I also think Money was right to play all 3 but I don't agree with the fitting in seamlessly comment. It would be nice if that happened but they literally only signed yesterday so have had no training sessions. Add to that playing a decent side who are well settled and I think it's a case of fingers crossed.


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 Post subject: Re: Harrogate predictions and thread
PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:49 pm 
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Magnay was absolute dog shit today,he's been like this for a while now,slow and weak with the touch of a donkey,it was actually painful to watch him today. Featherstone gets slower and more anonymous by the game,he was another embarrassment today. Richardson for me isn't good enough and has never looked good enough either,kioso is far better at right back.

Today we were well beaten by the better team, for me the most impressive side I've seen in the national league. The problem is not helping ourselves, players making vital mistakes every game and I don't really see any game plan at all, we changed formation after 15 mins today which left players not knowing where or what they were meant to be doing. Donaldson is wasted in the middle and should be out wide so with him and shitty Featherstone in there we just got over ran with ease,oh for a tommy widdrington type in the midfield to break up play.

I for one will give money time but I'd have more respect for him if I don't see magnay ,Featherstone or Richardson starting next week, they can't possibly after today.

New lads all did ok and will hopefully get better over the weeks but we still need a lot more .


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 Post subject: Re: Harrogate predictions and thread
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Every game for a while now we’re hoofing the ball upfield from the back and back it comes. Can we play it on the ground. I’d also appreciate it if instead of kicking the ball into the stratosphere, he rolled it out to a player with a sense o& urgency,instead of waiting in a gentlemanly way till the opposition have got back and re-organised.

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To be fair to magnay he has played in midfield for several weeks you can't just chop and change where you play people and not expect it to have an impact.


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If you are going to play long balls to a big lad then you need runners around him and someone who can actually hold it up. Thought that beck did a great job doing that today and was a real handful.


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 Post subject: Re: Harrogate predictions and thread
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unruly poolie wrote:
PJPoolie wrote:
Cassidy did alright on limited supply he got. How many times did one of our back four give away the ball in a dangerous area?


The midfield looked better in the last twenty minutes with Donaldson and Kioso in there, at least Kioso is mobile and
gets around the pitch.

Loach 7

Richardson 2
Raynes 5 (he'll be a good signing though)
Magnay 0 (Anderson 4)
Kitching 4

James 3 (Hawkes 4)
Donaldson 6
Featherstone 1 (Kioso 6)
Molyneux 5

Cassidy 6
Kabamba 6


Can't see how Donaldson got a 6 he didn't have 6 touches in the first half the game passed him by completely


I thought he played ok when Kioso went into midfield he got on the ball a bit more, maybe they had dropped a bit deeper as well with the 3-1 lead, we actually saw more of the ball in the last twenty though.


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unruly poolie wrote:
To be fair to magnay he has played in midfield for several weeks you can't just chop and change where you play people and not expect it to have an impact.


He played a couple of games in midfield a few weeks ago, it's absolutely no excuse for his performance today he was a disgrace.


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Think what you said is fair but maybe Mark is too high considering he hid a bit when it really mattered. He probably ultimately contributed to Featherstone fucking up for goal by not giving him options and putting him under pressure constantly.


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 Post subject: Re: Harrogate predictions and thread
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PJPoolie wrote:
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To be fair to magnay he has played in midfield for several weeks you can't just chop and change where you play people and not expect it to have an impact.


He played a couple of games in midfield a few weeks ago, it's absolutely no excuse for his performance today he was a disgrace.


I'm not defending him im giving mitigating circumstances for his performance. He has played at full back cb and cm this season. When the club is saying stuff like 'but the Pools boss is growing frustrated at a lack of stability in defence - regardless of the personnel and systems utilised.' you surely have to wonder if its chicken or egg.


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unruly poolie wrote:
Think what you said is fair but maybe Mark is too high considering he hid a bit when it really mattered. He probably ultimately contributed to Featherstone fucking up for goal by not giving him options and putting him under pressure constantly.


Featherstone played an awful sideways pass but actually tracked back (the most he moved all game I reckon) then was lucky enough to get the ball back in the box but instead of clearing it he pissed about and lost the ball again!!

It was a great strike but I'm not sure you really blame anyone else for that!


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It was his fault for sure but when featherstone is the only man in midfield it will ultimately have an impact and that was it. It was his mistake and he owned it afterwards but he wanted the ball after and didn't hide.


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unruly poolie wrote:
To be fair to magnay he has played in midfield for several weeks you can't just chop and change where you play people and not expect it to have an impact.


He played centre half when we beat Gateshead a few days later Money put him in centre midfield, and changed the back four, and the whole spine of the team. We got beat that game and Money said it wasn't a backward step. He also said he couldn't train the players properly because of Christmas but we would see a massive improvement at Harrogate.
Got told off someone who has been at the club a while Money is same as Dave Jones and is complicating things for the sake of it and players don't know what they need to do or how they are meant to be lining up. They not good enough to play lots of formations and positions just keep it simple this level. Davies got out quickly looks like Noble is wanting out and the way he playing his mate Magnay too. Anyone saying give Money time think we should have give Dave Jones more time too. He is one defeat away from getting the sack, put Hignett in charge till end of season then have clear out .


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In answer to Mr horden...

Yeah, I often can't be arsed posting at all and quickly get fed up of typing. There's a shed load more I want to say but just can not be arsed.

I also think Money was right to play all 3 but I don't agree with the fitting in seamlessly comment. It would be nice if that happened but they literally only signed yesterday so have had no training sessions. Add to that playing a decent side who are well settled and I think it's a case of fingers crossed.


Yeah I see your point. Also it could also of come as a shock to some of the existing players and possibly had an adverse rather than positive effect, which would possibly explain the way Magnay played, as surely Money has brought Raynes in to be the leader of a seemingly leaderless team not just as a player , a sort of Gary Strodder role, though the similarity probably ends there.

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