Money say.....

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

horden wrote:

Smokin Joe wrote:

This board is currently as divided over this issue as Parliament and indeed the country is over Brexit. However Richard Money and several contributors are living in cuckoo land if they seriously believe that the knockers are going to suddenly clam up when faced with repeated individual and overall team performances as poor as those witnessed in the dire display against Maidstone.

The only way of improving the alleged ‘toxic’ atmosphere at the Vic is for Money to find a way of making the side much more effective against sides who arrive at the Vic fired up, treating the game as a cup final and setting up to secure at least a point (witness the Maidstone keeper time-wasting in the opening ten minutes with the score at 1-1) with the likelihood of taking home all three points as Pools run out of ideas and stamina - and the fans inevitably get on the players/managers back.

It’s no coincidence that the home form has been particularly abysmal for years as regardless of which regime has been in charge of affairs, as with one or two exceptions e.g. Nathan Thomas, the club has been far too content to sign up journeymen - half-decent footballers not short of application or commitment but definitely lacking in flair, pace and above all, goalscoring prowess.

The owners have been too readily prepared to build up ridiculously huge squads of such players at either L2 or NFL level, steadfastly refusing to break the wage structure rather than pay a little more to secure the services of a individuals who are readily capable of ‘dropping a defender’ in Money’s terminology and/or regularly taking half-chances to stick the ball in the net.

Whether this is partly due to the lack of income as a direct result of low season ticket prices is open to conjecture. I fully appreciate that it is very difficult to attract such players to the unattractive area of the UK that is Teesside/South Durham in particular and the North East in general but until this philosophy is changed we will continue to flounder in mid-table with little hope of ever escaping from this dreadful league.

I’ve mentioned previously that we should look at local part-time professionals if this is what it takes to acquire a couple of flair players or those with a nose for a goal or two - let’s face it we have repeatedly seen that visiting part time outfits hardly struggle for fitness against the current Pools side so that cannot be used as an argument against snapping up part-timers.

Good post Joe. What a mess. Saturdays defeat feels like it was 5 home defeats in one rather than just the one. It seems to have tipped many over the edge and the toxic atmosphere has returned amongst our divided fanbase. Saturdays seemingly meaningless cup tie v Telford takes on an extra significance now, the trophy that could save this season, lose on Saturday and I fear the shit will really hit the fan. Money looks like he isn't going to have a honeymoon period that most new managers come to expect.

If you look at things rationally and analyse the data, if anything HUFC are heading downwards rather than back towards the Football League, over the last 8 years, a few seasons avoiding the drop in lge 1 , before eventually getting relegated, the same thing then happened in lge 2, and now we are beginning to see the same thing happening in the NL. Can we fall even further? will our place in the natural order be that of a yo yo team between NLN and the NL?. If Money can't sort things out, it will start to look that way.

This is getting really silly now we going to become a yo yo club betweent the Conference and lower, again this sort of hysteria proves how right Money is with his comments. Drag down the club, drag down the town and area. That is the irony here, people somehow trying to have a pop at the bloke are proving him to be spot on!! For me he's exactly the type of manager we need to shake the place out of it's slumber, he needs to be allowed to do that. I don't care If he upsets people along the way falls out with press and says things fans who think they know better don't want to hear, just let him do his job. Before anyone brings up Dave Jones I see one huge difference between the two, Jones thought he was above the club and level almost that he was doing everyone a favour by being here which was the main reason he alienated people with his misplaced arrogance. Money seems to have a lot of respect for the club and has proven success in lower level football, if you aren't going to give him a chance to do his job the who will you and just where does it leave us?

I really don't see a divide here unless you want to divide people with a bit a common sense and those who are hystercal drama queens desperate to be offended an looking for anything that anyone or any manager says that they can taken out of context. For about the tenth time, nobody is blaming fans, nobody is saying people aren't allowed to be pissed off at performance like Saturday what has been said is that things need to change if this cancerous negativity is to be lifted. Is that not the case? It clearly is but that won't happen overnight. The club needs support more than it ever has right now, it's a testing time but the manager, coaches, players and fans need to pull together and make going to the Vic an enjoyable experience again.

As for recuiment I don't really see signing local semi pros being the answer, where we are in the country is also an irellavant outdated notion. It was the case in the 70's and 80's (when we were skint) when we used to do exactly that, it isn't now. We have lads in our squad from all over the country, if you offer the player the deal he wants and sell the club (which despite the recent turmoil has a better profile than it used to have) players will come here.

The state of Pools current squad is a result of total lack of stability off the field in which we sold anyone a club was willing to pay a fee for coupled with constantly sacking managers, is it any wonder with that in mind that our squad is so unbalanced and that we are missing several key compenents that make a good football team? This is why everyone from the new manager, the director of football and the chairman need support and time to change things. Screaming for Money to 'Fuck off' as I heard idiots were on Saturday, what is that all about? Do these people even want a club?

In tribute to this thread I'm going to get 3,000 T Shirts printed up that say Money say.... Relax, to promote a calmer matchday atmosphere at the Vic.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37538

Smokin Joe wrote:

This board is currently as divided over this issue as Parliament and indeed the country is over Brexit. However Richard Money and several contributors are living in cuckoo land if they seriously believe that the knockers are going to suddenly clam up when faced with repeated individual and overall team performances as poor as those witnessed in the dire display against Maidstone.
Of course the whingers won’t stop, it’s what they do, it’s genetic, passed down from father to son. They actually believe they know best and I’m sure some just go for the masochistic delight of seeing everything being shit.
The only way of improving the alleged ‘toxic’ atmosphere at the Vic is for Money to find a way of making the side much more effective against sides who arrive at the Vic fired up, treating the game as a cup final and setting up to secure at least a point (witness the Maidstone keeper time-wasting in the opening ten minutes with the score at 1-1) with the likelihood of taking home all three points as Pools run out of ideas and stamina - and the fans inevitably get on the players/managers back.
In other words, do it your way.

It’s no coincidence that the home form has been particularly abysmal for years as regardless of which regime has been in charge of affairs, as with one or two exceptions e.g. Nathan Thomas, the club has been far too content to sign up journeymen - half-decent footballers not short of application or commitment but definitely lacking in flair, pace and above all, goalscoring prowess.
But that’s surely what every team wants?

Whether this is partly due to the lack of income as a direct result of low season ticket prices is open to conjecture. I fully appreciate that it is very difficult to attract such players to the unattractive area of the UK that is Teesside/South Durham in particular and the North East in general
ABSOLUTE RUBBISH, this isn’t some war zone, are you serious?
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PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

Just think of some of the players we have signed then sold in the last few years, Thomas, Alessandra, Amond, Nsiala, Laurent, Carroll, Donnelly, Carson all sold on for fees to a higher level the state of our squad has nothing to do with location or the current people in charge, more the criminal negligence/pocket lining of those before. That's without mentioning Simpson and Walker who we got cash for who came through. We can attract players, it is not 1980.

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