As an alternative, Manure Poolies is already registered by me. But you'll have to hurry, I'm expecting plenty of offers on that one!

Does anyone want to buy BLK Pools, going cheap.
I've only had it a week.

I’ve formed the annoyed with blk supporters group

AWBSG

For short. Not sure if we’ll be elite yet


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Just remember that the lame and piss weak response to the club supporters group is already taken.

I have received a very sensible email from the Trust about this matter.

That’s not fair.

I’m a trust member too but they seem to have sent me a different email from you.

I liked it, well I liked their stance.

By stance I presume you mean feet together with both hands in the air.

It was a sensible e-mail, not saying I agree with all of it though.

I was going to post it last night , but thought it would of been seen as mischievous , also I didn't want to start a riot.

It was an email Neville Chamberlain would have been proud of.

Come to think of it, I still have the membership database. Perhaps I should write an alternative.

What was it you were saying about contributions for Monkey Business ?

Now there’s a thought...... would it be published though?

Probably best to run it by the Fans Liaison Officer first , just to be on the safe side.

There is absolutely no question that Walter Mitty Shithead orchestrated the 'fuck the trust' mob. This is the group that attacked ECG and Fireball. They are also the group that gave no end of abuse to trust members and made it clear that they hated both the trust and anyone associated with it. Walter Mitty Shithead is also well known for associating with EDL mobs at England games. To appoint him as a neutral Liaison Officer is just plain lunacy, he clearly is anything other than neutral. Frankly, and disappointingly, there are others who should be shouting from the rooftops but for their own reasons are keeping quiet. Maybe they've had a knock on the door or been doorstepped at work previously.

The above is some of the reasons that the Trust should grow a pair and have nothing to do with this committee until this appointment is reversed.

All Maguire has done is re open a load of old wounds. Can see it kicking of again at the Halifax game again if any of the Trust lads show up. The Trust has the members and it has the money and it has good connections already to Singh and Hignett. They don't need to get involved with this farce.

I don't personally know John well just to say alright to and speak a few words but he has never struck me as any kind of trouble maker and one of his so called Ultra's is my god son who travels all over nearly every away game to watch pools because they live sleep and breathe pools. Alright some them might be daft as brushes but they are only early 20's and they having a laugh that's all.

It's all a bit silly this fighting amongst each other, I joined the trust when it was started because I didn't want to lose our club and i was willing to give it a go to help out but I won't be renewing anymore

Why won’t you renew?

I don’t understand


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Pools are making a big mistake with this appointment and the Trust should take a clear stand against it.

The far right and hooliganism have dogged football in Britain since the '70s. Giving the official stamp of approval to somebody who at the very least associates with people who bring intimidation and bigotry into grounds undermines all the good community work that Pools do. It also makes a mockery of any policies on racism, sexism and homophobia.

The only reason I can see for the club doing this is that they want to give the appearance of working with fans by creating a body that dilutes the strength of a proper supporters trust by mixing it in with a variety of other groups who all have different agendas. They know from the way that Walter Mitty Shithead's group desperately defended the previous owners, even as they drained the last few quid out of the club, that they'll get blind loyalty in exchange for making the bloke feel important.

I think it is vitally important that the Trust takes a stand on this even if that means being more distant from the club than other groups for a while.

I'm sending this to the Trust in reply to the email I got about it.

I understand totally and it’s not really the Trusts fault but I reckon many are sick of shite like this, fueled by agendas and self interest. Some stuff went on last year that was completely out of order but not everyone is directly involved or has much idea about any of that nonsense. If the club want to help maybe what went on needs sorting out face to face and they need to be clear those intimidation and violence has no place at any Pools match and those responsible in future will be dealt with.

I’m at a point were I have zero interest in any of it. I doubt I’m the only one. We all need to get behind the club going forward and those involved need to keep in mind what our common denominator is, Hartlepool United.

I have often wondered why supporters of Pools suddenly turned on fellow Poolies to the point of physical and verbal abuse and now I'm finding out that apparently daft young lads, some of which are "as daft as a brush", and are "just having a laugh" are having harmless fun.
Have you actually read back to yourself what you have written there, Mr Kint????
Neither ECG nor Chip Fireball, to my knowledge, have referred to their experience with these people as some daft young lads having a laugh. Those two can also be described as ardent Pools fans but I would gamble quite a lot that they've never ever attended a Pools away game with the specific intention of abusing ANYONE, let alone fellow Poolies.
Having a laugh is usually spontaneous and I, for one, am totally in favour of people having fun but this behaviour at away games was co-ordinated. Producing printed fuck the trust stickers has to be thought through and organised, so who by???? Any ideas???

Everything you mentioned is true. But none of it is the problem or fault of the supporters trust. The trust has acted with dignity from the start and has acted in the way you’d expect a supporters trust to act. I may not agree with everything they say, but I always respect the angle with which they are coming from.

I’m just not really sure why the club felt this to be a option that’s needed, to put anyone in this role, everything seemed to have stopped n all the focus was on the field.


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Does anyone else suspect Raj is playing a clever long game here?

I agree that I don’t think the role is needed.

If they want to have regular dialogue with various fans groups then that’s great but at the head directing these meetings should be the club and nobody else. I also agree that the Trust should not get involved in this in ways it been proposed but I also think that will damage the Trust further in some people’s eyes who don’t know the full story. It’s an awkward situation but it’s not the Trusts fault. Damned if they do damned if they don’t.

Is it too much to ask for everyone to sit down and sort this out for the good of the club though? If John Walter Mitty Shithead or anyone isn’t willing to do that then they are completely unsuitable to be involved in fans liaison surely?

Who picked JP?

If it was Maguire it was a grave error of judgement, if he was suggested to him by someone else at the club its baffling that anyone with a working knowledge of what happened last season could think he was neutral!

The trust cant sit on this board and retain integrity IMO

Me. If he needs funding from fans in future the Trust will want representation at board level in exchange. That and a safety net if everything goes horribly wrong are what it's for. A general fans group will just get out there bucket rattling when they're told to without any conditions. Pretty obvious what any businessman owner of the club would prefer but if he sets the group up now it won't be as easy to point this out a couple of years down the line.

I don't think there is a need for this role
, regardless who does it. Performances have been great on the pitch and everything seemed to have calmed down off the pitch in terms of groups etc. Bizarre timing by the club.

I think he is playing some sort of game as you put it but I wouldn't describe it as clever. I would go as far as calling it stupid and extremely risky.
Everything was settling down nicely. A sense of everyone is pulling in the right direction was in the air. Very positive strides forward were taking place and I think this decision has put a brake on proceedings. Whereas I thought his contribution so far was faultless, he has now sown the first seed of doubt in my mind. A small seed but nevertheless it is now there. Rightly or wrongly I now think he is against the trust. time will tell.

I am not going again until my Godson and his mates are allowed to threaten and attack people whenever they want. The world has gone mad when people in their early 20's are no longer able to have a laugh and assault people without do gooders objecting.

I'd like to think Jeff Stelling still has a look at the Bunker from time to time, even though it's highly unlikely he'll post on here again as that would give the appearance of favouring one set of supporters over another!

Mark Maguire's motives and/or judgement have been questioned over this 'initiative', which is fair enough. Relationships with fans' groups and with the Trust are within his remit.

Now people are asking if Raj Singh isn't behind the whole thing, which may or may not be true, but in the absence of any evidence that it is true sounds depressingly like a return to the days of looking the gift horse in the mouth during the protracted takeover negotiations.

Jeff, as a Pools fan first and foremost and as someone who 100% gets the point of fans' Trusts, can you please have a word with Mr. Maguire before this divisive bollocks goes any further? Personally, the outcome I'd like to see is that the Trust disassociates itself from the new liaison group and that the club puts out a statement saying that it fully understands the position of the Trust on this matter.

Singh isn't going to buy a dog and bark himself. He will have told Maguire to set up a forum with the fans and left him to get on with it.
What needs to happen now is for Maguire and Walter Mitty Shithead to put out a statement explaining why the role is needed and what it involves. Walter Mitty Shithead also needs make clear all the Fuck the trust nonsense is in the past. Even if he disagrees with them they have 1000 members so have a right to be at the table. otherwise Walter Mitty Shithead is going to fall in the role because if the Trust walks away from this then it has no credibility. On top of that It is unfair on HUST and Supporters Accoiation and Disabled Group and the majority of fans to drag them into a 10 year old spat between Walter Mitty Shithead-Friends and the Bunker.

Who said my godson has threatened and attacked people ??? Do you know him ???

I've been told today that there was a incident involving ECG and if that's true it's bang out of order he is a true pools fan and a very decent bloke and so is the godson he has a bit more about him to do that

Well all this debate is just proving what a masterstroke by the club this whole thing is (yes that is sarcasm), turning people on each other again, stirring up bad feeling that reached fever pitch last year because the club was imploding and distracting from the fact that due to the stability and upturn at the club seemed to be dying away.

What a stupid mess caused for no apparent benefit really

It’s still strikes me is astonishing that the man who was responsible for this entire split has absolutely no idea what his actions lead to