I was at the shops Sunday in my England shirt n a man said to me oh be careful mate police are forcing people to take England shirts off incase it offends muslims

Where do people read this shite


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I love statistics that these EDL/Britain First arse holes use, I saw this beauty the other day

"In past 12 months 13,000 knife attacks were committed in London. 11,000 of these we're done by muslim immigrants"

That's a direct copy and paste and not my poor grammar.

Whots rong with your gramma like? I bet its a muslims fault shes poorly. Come over ere infectin our grand parents.

The best ones are those who insist that all Muslims want Sharia law to replace all civil law in the UK.

Usually my debating with these people leads to their silence. Not sure if that's a good or bad thing.

Never debate with twats. They are sure to out-twat you.

The Goverment's The Media or The Bunker .Compo??

What social media has shown is that lots of people are gullible as fuck, are ready to believe the worst, and can be manipulated really easily into spreading hate.

I preferred it when all we had was In The Net Hufc.net

Completely concur Mr PiN.

All this Britain First, NF, Momentum etc. propaganda bollox on the likes of Facebook is extremist bullshit of the highest order and only believed, posted and shared by complete morons.

Edited for accuracy!!!!

I remember when we got told....'don't believe everything you read in the papers'....stuff written by 'professional' journalists!!!!

Now idiots believe everything that is written on social media by people who have never held a pen/crayon since they were at the divvy school!!!!

Nice try to slip Momentum onto the list of fascist loons Mr Ripper. Not really fair, reasonable or accurate though.

Since when has being a fascist been a prerequisite to being a loon?

It isn't but PiN was making a fair point about hate spreaders of a certain ilk and you agreed with him, named a couple of the usual culprits but then added Momentum too. You can certainly argue that they're loons but implying that they spread hate like Britain First and the NF is a bit silly.

It’s not silly it all if you’ve seen the incitement to hatred that they instigate on social media. Just because it is extreme left wing as opposed to right wing doesn’t make it any different in terms of its intention. Stalin was a bit left leaning but it didn’t make him any less of a cnt.

I've never heard of Momentum!!!!

I did momentum at the poly. Piece of piss. M x V.

I don't bother much with social media so you might well have seen stuff I haven't but as Britain First and the NF are organisations that were specifically founded to spread and incite racial hatred I can't believe that Momentum are spreading the same sort of stuff. They probably do incite hatred towards Theresa May, Boris Johnson and that bell end who stopped the upskirting bill but that really isn't the same thing at all.

In jail he can write something, maybe about his struggle?

If he were to die in prison though of course I wouldn’t wish it on anyone I think I’d be much happier with natural causes at the end of the day. He’s been involved in too much controversy in his relatively short life and I hope he dies quickly in peace like if it is his time. I’m talking theoretically here because like I said I wouldnt wish it on anybody.

What a very strange post to make. Are you some kind of psychopath?

He looks the type to put a spider in a jar n watch it suffocate


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And you're all giving it the oxygen of publicity. Stop feeding it.

Can't believe you've said that Snowy, the poor spider ha done nothing wrong. If we don't feed with oxygen of some sort it will die in that jar.

I’m scared of spiders. Wasp in an upturned pint pot is my cruelty limit. In saying that I do occasionally stamp on the odd wiodlouse. Not easy on carpet to get a clean kill mind.

Hoy.... That's our lasses line and she's usually, sorry, always wrong.

Jailed by a Kangaroo court PJ .Freed on bail.

You surely aren’t as fucking stupid as you make out?

His only grounds for appeal are his length of sentence. He plead guilty to a crime he was already on suspended jail sentence for, prison was certain.

Serious question are you as thick as fuck genuinely or just on the wind up? A bit of both I imagine with stupidity being at the forefront.

Take your black hood and mask off Pj ffs.

Thick Loid Gammon.

Not even a Loid, you have never been to a match have you?

What would be hilarious is that at his retrial he’s found guilty again and given an even longer sentence. Prison is the best place for serial offenders and National embarrassments like him.

All i said was that he'd been freed PJ.

Kangaroo Court!?

Hardly.

His most likely destination after the retrial is I imagine Jail. He’s not exactly been ‘freed’ either he’s been released on bail which means he still stands accused of the crime.

The problem I have is ‘free Tommy’ fucknuggets seeing this as some sort of victory. It just shows that we as a civilised country (wankers like Robinson don’t seem to want us to live in a civilised country and believe to think they are above the law) we have a justice process if part of that hasn’t followed properly then Yaxley-Lennon is entitled to his retrial. But he wasn’t jailed for ‘free speech’ or any other tedious shite people shout about it was contempt of court, a serious crime. The fact anyone ‘supports’ this cretin, a serial criminal and a hateful racist thug, really is a sad state of affairs.

He is an idiot and his followers don’t have two brain cells between them.

No mattter what the subject is Loid if you do not agree with the majority on here you are dooooomed simple

A point of order. He was jailed for contempt of court which is a civil offence not a crime so by definition he is not a criminal for this offence. In any case it’s been on overturned so no offence has been proven.

So not a serious crime then.

Of course , it this was Jeremy Corbyn or John Mcdonnell you would take an entirely different view

A point of order.

God forbid, if you were related to a young a victim of the animals on trial at the cases that this moron turns up outside with his camera and he caused a mistrial or worse for the case to collapse you wouldn’t view this as a serious offence or be such a pedant!? Robinson never seems to consider the victims during his self publicity.

What has happened to our country when we’re in a state that people are sticking up for this fucking hateful nugget?

Also he still stands accused of the offence it’s not been overturned.

You're obviously a clever bloke in many ways, but do you not get embarrassed by some of the views you express? It is some hill to die upon.

Whether he is a criminal or not in this case, he has already done enough in his past to warrant that label for life. His first conviction was for assaulting a police officer who tried to stop him beating his girlfriend up. He's a nasty piece of work and his followers are as thick as mince.

Camera's turning up at court trials??? that's a new one.

Why not let him into court, a selfie with the key witness?

If my daughter had been raped by a group of animals I’d definitely want the trial on Facebook Live to be fair potentially jeopardising it. No brainer. Tommy Robinson’s hateful personal agenda is certainly the most important thing in all of this.

Oh no sorry, I meant no brain.

Restrictions on things like that are in place for a fairly good reason.

I didn’t express a view I just corrected a legally incorrect statement. I offered no support nor condemnation I simply stated a legal fact.

Very honourable Mr I. Shame your stating of the facts are selective rather than across the whole spectrum, otherwise you would be a real asset to humanity.

From what I've read it looks like Robinson has been freed on bail pending a retrial that has been ordered because the court of appeal think the first trial was too hastily arranged to be fair.

Given he entered a guilty plea and admitted to criminal contempt, in spite of a suspended sentence for a first offence, he could easily end up back inside though. Even if he stays out of prison because he's already served four months it is very hard to see how anybody could see him as an innocent victim of the courts.

I'm no fan of the contempt laws but when you've got a bell-end like him standing on the steps of the court streaming pictures of witnesses, victims, family members, and possibly the accused, it can't be allowed. Judges can't risk the integrity of trials in such serious cases just because the international far right don't understand that free speech sometimes has boundaries for good reasons.

Even the Sun have railed against him today.

I can't help thinking he will pull another 'martyr' stunt at some point soon, hopefully he will get banged up for a long time.

I can't see him turning up at anymore of these court cases . There's so many going on how could he possibly be in so many towns and cities all at once.

He first got arrested for hitting a policeman who tried to stop him beating his lass up

Canny lad inne


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We are a few days away from the beginning of the season. Some good legal analysis in this thread but can we end it here do you think? Get back to football debate and what not. If we could that would be great.

I say again, I make no suggestion of support or otherwise for Robinson. I'm commenting simply on the case procedurally.



Sorry but thats simply not the case here. It becomes criminal when it meets the criteria of a number of areas one of which is what the original charge was for. This was as follows:

Publishing anything that creates a substantial risk of seriously prejudicing "active" criminal proceedings

Now thats specifically what has been overturned at appeal because of the undue haste of the hearing. He was neither given time to prepare a defence nor given full disclosure of the specifics of the charges. Not my view, the view of the appeal judges who threw out the original conviction. Now that the court of appeal has quashed the conviction it follows that he was not convicted, hence 'not criminal in this case.

Ultimately, whatever you think of Robinson the legal process was shite.

Why did he plead guilty then?

No idea, depends if he had legal advise is such haste.

No matter what your opinion is of Tommy Robinson is, me personally I think he talks a lot of sense a lot of the times and every interview I've seen him on tv he has conducted himself very well and I've just seen his interview with Tucker Carlson and if what he is saying is true he has been treated worse than any terrorist would be, it's worth a watch

Concurring Mr Kint. Can't believe the way a thoroughly decent, patriotic, woman beating, copper assaulting fraudster like our Tommy gets vilified. He's no angel but like Hitler he talks a lot of sense.