Pools v Halifax....Predictions & Official Thread!!!!

RichyHpool · **Posted:** Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:06 am

I've seen us have shite teams, Players and managers over the years but this lot are on a different level, even when cruising in games like Saturday they still somehow managed to almost throw the game away. I honestly couldn't give a shit if any of them left apart from loach, they are just weak characters and have absolutely no heart or fight. It's hard as a fan attempting to support a bunch of players you can't stand!

goals win games · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 10:45 pm **Posts:** 35

Correct richyhpool this lot are professional losers have been all their careers and the reason for it is themselves. Not sticking up for Harrison I would have f sacked him after the fylde game I had seen enough. But these players are a disgrace plain and simple.

poolie1 · **Joined:** Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:45 pm **Posts:** 2002

charco ...suggest you take a deep breath and calm down pal ...everyone knows about the current and previous owners...the police are investigating FFS ...mmmmmm where has all that money gone ?? ....believe me no one is arguing about that or needs a coffee...however harrison and his teams failure has obviously precipitated the owners decision to cut and run and bail out half way through this season....my guess would be the current regime would have much preferred to have taken more out of the club than they undoubtedly already have....being forced sellers now means this just hasnt gone to plan ....but this doesnt mean harrison is any good at his job ....or that he shares no responsibility for this sad shambolic mess

Twilight Zone · **Joined:** Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:06 pm **Posts:** 1428

charco wrote:

poolie1 wrote:

listen to the bloke talk about football....just listen ...then tell me what level he would be successful at ....what level....tell me who he is going to inspire and motivate....the players arent all daft and they know...i dont think he has a future as a football manager anywhere anytime anyplace...my opinion....time will tell....he should never have been appointed to the post end of ....there were others who applied who were better qualified by a mile ....what were pam and watsons criteria for giving the job to him god only knows ...and if we were at the other end of the table the club would not be for sale now

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

The club's been stripped of all assets and is financially bankrupt. It really doesn't matter which end of the table we are, or hope to be.

Sage were left looking at a financial black hole, and they knew it as soon as Coxhall fucked off. They had to formulate an exit policy

1. Sell the club to some ingenuous mug
2. Strip it for all it's worth

With crooked books and money flying out of the door (1) was always a non-starter - there just are not that many greedy mugs around with that kind of money.

The only thing they could do was stimulate the environment necessary to get as much "investment" into the coffers as possible, as soon as possible. Build hope - get the season ticket money in - get the gates as high as possible - get a new manager with a proven record of success (it doesn't matter where from).

Try to build a feel-good factor, while strategically squeezing the last remaining drops of milk from the cash cow.

All of the money in has been absorbed by Sage (and by extension, Pam as an employee/director).

Sage were left holding the baby. They do not give a flying fuck about HUFC and never have. They are an INVESTMENT company. They invested badly (were conned) and simply want a return on their money. In the world of business it is hard to criticise that attitude, BUT when it means that you have to lie and lie again to people who actually care about the outcome and who have invested a lifetime of emotion into the company it becomes evil.

EVIL because it hurts innocent people and does so knowingly.

There were those who believed Coxhall.
There are those who believe Pam.

For fuck's sake just wake up and smell the coffee.

That That & That Again clappp

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37599

congress_tart wrote:

I am not defending him as a manager, it just still amazes me how much blame he gets when others who have bled the club dry have got away relatively scott free.

He's a not very good manager and possibly our worst ever. When football teams perform badly themanager gets the blame, then the sack. He doesn't, yet a traffic cone could do no worse.
Forget the sympathy.

congress_tart · **Posted:** Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:22 am

He is not capable, but the sympathy I have for him against others is that he has not deliberately or criminally got us into a financial mess. Clearly we have not got the money to pay him off, and as it seems he has relocated with his family then I wouldn’t expect him to put his family in the crap as well if he resigned.

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

charco wrote:

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER wrote:

The bairn wants to go tonight so will have a pop along.

2-0 loss.

Hope they do chips.

If they did chips you've done a triple.

result ✓
score ✓
chips ✓

Congrats.

Was nice to spend some money in a ground for once with no worries about where it was going.

Was all rather depressing - beaten by the better team and they were fucking rank.

Fucking freezing too, part of me wished I took a flask of soup for half time like back in the 90s.

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

congress_tart wrote:

We know he is out of his depth, but you would think he is solely responsible for the clubs demise reading comments elsewhere. The real culpible ones must rub their hands together when they hear all the abuse aimed at him.

This.

He's clearly out of his depth don't get me wrong, but he's hardly the biggest culprit in the current shit storm that's going on off the pitch, which always effects things on it.

some people seem to go over the top in blaming him as it helps deflect from who the real culprits are, the ones not paying the players.

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Am pretty sure when we appointed him people were saying how brilliantly he talked about the game and how he said all the right things etc. Now it seems to be that he talks utter shit?

Also no idea what his weight or hairstyle has to do with anything.

He got manager of the month and then the shit hit the fan financially and players were not getting paid etc. Things went downhill, the players dont know if they are going to get paid this month and have naturally downed tools, I couldnt be arsed giving my all if i was unsure about my job.

He shipped his family up here from Wales, he aint going to quit and give up 2 years salary or whatever he has left. No one in their right mind would do that. Makes me laugh when I see people who whinge about paying £20 for a meal but think someone should give up on £50k plus. :laugh:

The owners also wont fire him as they dont have a pot to piss in, well not to spend on the club anyway.

Like Hignett was, he has been hung out to dry. Tactically yeah I have reservations about Harrison but they guy has no chance.

Got to wonder why anyone would want to manage us going forward - Its a sure fire way of ruining your reputation or making sure you dont get another job.

Malcolm Dawes Knew My Father · **Joined:** Wed May 11, 2011 4:25 pm **Posts:** 4198

It's incontrovertible that this is the worst moment in the club's history. Pools have never been in this much debt, never been this low in the football pyramid.

As Craig Harrison never ceases to remind the poor hacks who have to interview him week after week (when he should have been long gone from the Vic), "It is what it is."
In the next breath, CH promises to "analyse things" - as if hitting yourself over the head with a hammer one more time will ever bring a different result.

We do the same thing on here, day after day, analysing the arse out of an unchanging predicament. It is what it is.

PoolieTom · **Joined:** Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:30 am **Posts:** 779

That was fucking depressing again last night like. No tactics whatsoever. Oates and Rodney both absolutely shagged after 30 minutes, Cassidy not long after, yet he left them on for 90. Another game were the opposition knew they could keep us out for 60 minutes and they would inevitably score. Rinse and repeat again Saturday.

Loved the ground though, two stands behind the goals are brilliant. Expected it to be a dump like Grimsby for some reason, but it was, if anything, too clean. Not too long of a walk from town centre too.

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

Whats the deal with him not using any subs?

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

Did we actually have any other attacking options available other than those three? Maybe he could have packed the midfield which after scoring three on Saturday he’d have been slaughtered for.

He’d have probably been sacked a while ago under normal circumstances but as daft as it sounds it’s not his fault he’s still here. The owners are no longer bothered about results and certainly aren’t going to sack or replace a manager. Maybe put him on gardening leave and put him out of his misery? It’s an awful situation but he’s another example of a poor decision since Blackledge, Duxbury and Watson have been involved in the club. They have been a disaster for our club in every sense following from the nightmare of the conmen they fell for.

horden · **Posted:** Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:03 am

How depressing is this?

https://www.hartlepoolunited.co.uk/news ... -comments/

Harrison mentions 0-0 more than once, maybe this was his intention all along. To be fair after Saturday, it would of given us a platform to take into Ebbsfleet game, however we couldn't of asked for a better away game after a home win, and makes you wonder if Harrison is lost for ideas, if he hasn't the confidence to go to a team like Halifax and go for the 3 points.

Not sure about his use of the word aggressive, sure those who were there would dispute that. Listening on the radio , they didn't sound aggressive.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37599

Crap owners, crap manager.
I can happily criticise both at the same time for not doing the job I expect them to do.
No one is shielding or deflecting the criticism from others by criticising the manager.

PoolieTom · **Joined:** Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:30 am **Posts:** 779

PJPoolie wrote:

Did we actually have any other attacking options available other than those three? Maybe he could have packed the midfield which after scoring three on Saturday he’d have been slaughtered for.

Aye, Hawkes and Pritchard. Alternatively, he could've played each of them for 45 minutes. They clearly couldn't last much longer. He did pack the midfield, in fact at times it was like we were playing with 6 defenders as Rodney and Oates were so deep; and that was at 2-0.

He definitely played for a 0-0, no doubt about it. The odd occasion we broke forward he stood motionless, the second the ball went out for a goal kick he was screaming and throwing his hands around to signal everyone back as quick as possible. But for Newton closing down, it would have been the most leisurely 90 minutes the Halifax back 4 will have ever had

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

I thought Hawkes was a centre midfielder? I don’t know anything about Pritchard to be fair. In no way trying to defend the bloke as making no subs when your losing is quite frankly bizarre but he doesn’t really have any options. On the same hand I see no point in including people on the bench if you have no intention of using them. It’s all round a fairly hopeless and depressing situation. At least people might encourage and get behind a couple of kids getting a go, mind Rodney has been slaughtered all season and he’s not much older so maybe Harrison is mindful of that.

PoolieTom · **Joined:** Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:30 am **Posts:** 779

The issue was leaving them both on the pitch on Saturday for 90 minutes. They either played 60 of both, or 90 of one and 30 of another. That pitch can't have been doing them any favours either. Not sure what Hawkes is to be honest, but fresh legs would have been better regardless. Same with Pritchard, or even Hawkins. No subs, no formation change and no tactics when we went behind was just ridiculous. He sent Hawkes to 'warm up' with 5 minutes to go which was the first movement from the bench for about 20 minutes.

pooliecrab · **Joined:** Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:31 pm **Posts:** 6028

Are his hands tied? If players get an appearance fee can the club afford to bring subs on? I really wouldn't be surprised if it was the case although I also wouldn't be surprised if Craig Harrison was unaware he was allowed to make subs.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 19845

shit game, two shit sides but pools seemed less interested. thank goodness i only had to travel 10 miles for that. do not mind loosing if every effort is put in before and during the game but tuesday was down to another level.

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