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 Post subject: Re: Fenwick...
PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 11:55 am 
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It's a chance for the new owners to show that we aren't a selling club. Scott Fenwick is worth more to us than just the goals, his enthusiasm and will to win is very difficult to buy. How many years does he have left on his contract? I it is one then the new owners could very well find them in a similar position to IOR when they took over when Jon Culens contract was running down. To sell and take the money - or hope a new contract can be agreed...?

I'd be disappointed if he left for less than £350k - the type of player Fenwick is means that he will always have the odd injury or knock but he gets so many chances I'm not worried about him missing the odd one. Difficult one.....


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If the club continues to sell on what is perceived to be our better players all that will happen is that supporters such as myself will wait till as late as possible to renew our season tickets and re-assess, .....that is choose not to bother if another season of struggle looks imminent.

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JPNG have no money .......if pompy offered you 350k what would you do?

I'm disgusted these bankrupt company stripping cowboys are running the club.

Fenwick is a done deal.


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JPNG have no money .......if pompy offered you 350k what would you do?

I'm disgusted these bankrupt company stripping cowboys are running the club.

Fenwick is a done deal.


Put down the glue bag.

Get a new hobby/life.


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It's a chance for the new owners to show that we aren't a selling club. Scott Fenwick is worth more to us than just the goals, his enthusiasm and will to win is very difficult to buy. How many years does he have left on his contract? I it is one then the new owners could very well find them in a similar position to IOR when they took over when Jon Culens contract was running down. To sell and take the money - or hope a new contract can be agreed...?

I'd be disappointed if he left for less than £350k - the type of player Fenwick is means that he will always have the odd injury or knock but he gets so many chances I'm not worried about him missing the odd one. Difficult one.....


£350,000 Jonny sometimes I think you are genuinely bonkers.


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pj the most blinkerd idiot ever on a Mb


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Banned (I hope).. As much to with the Great Man as the KKK have with racial tolerance.. A grade one nob

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It's a chance for the new owners to show that we aren't a selling club. Scott Fenwick is worth more to us than just the goals, his enthusiasm and will to win is very difficult to buy. How many years does he have left on his contract? I it is one then the new owners could very well find them in a similar position to IOR when they took over when Jon Culens contract was running down. To sell and take the money - or hope a new contract can be agreed...?

I'd be disappointed if he left for less than £350k - the type of player Fenwick is means that he will always have the odd injury or knock but he gets so many chances I'm not worried about him missing the odd one. Difficult one.....


£350,000 Jonny sometimes I think you are genuinely bonkers.


Pj - what value would you put on Fenwick then ? I await a usual response from you were you reply but don't answer the question.


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I don't want Fenwick to leave but I think 350k would have to be snapped up. He's played about half a season in league football. It would probably be less with add on's. If he looks at James he'll see staying at Pools and playing football is sometimes the better option.

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I'm not sure how could demand £350k for him mind.

He's had what 3 injuries in the space of 7/8 months, and is probably a factor in why no-one has took a gamble on him. He's played around 20 league games and scored 6 goals. He's had poor games and again he is so inexperienced in terms of football league.

Maybe if he continued same sort of ratio for a 40 game season then you could start touting up bigger fees such as £350k.

He is easily the best finisher we have though so probably more vital to us than the money


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What would be the point in letting him go for half that ? Who can you buy for 175k ?


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Another fiendish gambit from JPNG. First they stick a bankrupt man in charge as a double bluff knowing nobody will believe a cowboy outfit would do anything as obvious.
Then they spread a totally bollocks rumour about our most promising player leaving, and when it doesn't happen they claim it's because they are fully committed to keeping all our best players, thereby getting people to believe they aren't in this to just pocket the money.

These people are just too clever.

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Another fiendish gambit from JPNG. First they stick a bankrupt man in charge as a double bluff knowing nobody will believe a cowboy outfit would do anything as obvious.
Then they spread a totally bollocks rumour about our most promising player leaving, and when it doesn't happen they claim it's because they are fully committed to keeping all our best players, thereby getting people to believe they aren't in this to just pocket the money.

These people are just too clever.


Or you're just overthinking what could be a good honest takeover?


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 3:38 pm 
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Another fiendish gambit from JPNG. First they stick a bankrupt man in charge as a double bluff knowing nobody will believe a cowboy outfit would do anything as obvious.
Then they spread a totally bollocks rumour about our most promising player leaving, and when it doesn't happen they claim it's because they are fully committed to keeping all our best players, thereby getting people to believe they aren't in this to just pocket the money.

These people are just too clever.


Or you're just overthinking what could be a good honest takeover?


Or you don't get sarcasm.


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I doubt we'd get anywhere near £350k, he's had half a season in league two and seems to be injury prone. He had injuries when he was playing non league (confirmed by himself on the bunker).

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Or you're just overthinking what could be a good honest takeover?


No, I'm sure Monty is on to something here. Not only that, but I believe Ken is behind it all. It fits in with his passive-aggressive approach.

"I'll overlook the debt," he'll have said, "if you lot will agree to mount a ferocious campaign to bamboozle the fans. They objected to silence. Let them have noise. Then, when they're least expecting it, you can sack Russ Green."

(I read all about this on facebook.)


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[quote="Joe Mac"]I doubt we'd get anywhere near £350k, he's had half a season in league two and seems to be injury prone. He had injuries when he was playing non league (confirmed by himself on the bunker).[/quote

My point was in relation to what would be accepted not offered.

What sort of bid would you accept ?


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pooliedan92 wrote:
Montpoolier wrote:
Another fiendish gambit from JPNG. First they stick a bankrupt man in charge as a double bluff knowing nobody will believe a cowboy outfit would do anything as obvious.
Then they spread a totally bollocks rumour about our most promising player leaving, and when it doesn't happen they claim it's because they are fully committed to keeping all our best players, thereby getting people to believe they aren't in this to just pocket the money.

These people are just too clever.


Or you're just overthinking what could be a good honest takeover?


Or you don't get sarcasm.


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Well Coxhall said on Twitter that it's just rumours and Fenwick is a future pools legend and it will be a fantastic season for Fenwick and Pools.

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I doubt we'd get anywhere near £350k, he's had half a season in league two and seems to be injury prone. He had injuries when he was playing non league (confirmed by himself on the bunker).[/quote

My point was in relation to what would be accepted not offered.

What sort of bid would you accept ?


The lad has got a real chance of making it in the game. He's a goal poacher for one and two his attitude is excellent. His game has loads of rough edges though and at times in general play he looks out of his depth, he did for 45 minutes at Carlisle last game. Don't get me wrong I like him and really think he can have a good career but £350,000 at this stage (if it was reinvested straight into the team) is drive him to Portsmouth yourself territory/glue bag/space cake stuff. Back on planet Earth League Two clubs would probably bid £30-50,000 for a lad with potential who has scored 6 professional goals in his life.

I get the the feeling this is all probably horse shit though in the style of Tshibola signing for £250,000 last Monday.


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Did I really just read a comment where someone reckons Fenwick was worth £350k at least?

You can tell its summer and people are bored.


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I think Fenwick is actually my current fav pools player. Mainly because of his attitude and narkiness.

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I don't think Fenwick will be going anywhere. However because of his injuries and being relatively unproven I couldn't see much of an offer coming in for him anyway and right now I think his potential of being a 20 goal a season striker isn't worth letting go of. Lets hope he can get a good pre-season under his belt and is bang in form from the off next season.

Interestingly, he has never scored a goal kicking towards the pools fans


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I think Fenwick is actually my current fav pools player. Mainly because of his attitude and narkiness.


He is my six year old boy's favourite.

I took the him to Sunderland at the end of last season when Pools season had finished and got him in the players lounge at half time and full time. He met loads of Sunderland players and got loads of autographs and was over the moon with all of that. But the highlight of his day was meeting Scott Fenwick's brother who was in there too (and wishing he had got his autograph an all!).

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Scott fenwick scores goals, regularly. He's worth a fucking fortune in my eyes.

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I doubt we'd get anywhere near £350k, he's had half a season in league two and seems to be injury prone. He had injuries when he was playing non league (confirmed by himself on the bunker).[/quote

My point was in relation to what would be accepted not offered.

What sort of bid would you accept ?


I'd accept 30 million if it was offered


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Jonny wrote:
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I doubt we'd get anywhere near £350k, he's had half a season in league two and seems to be injury prone. He had injuries when he was playing non league (confirmed by himself on the bunker).[/quote

My point was in relation to what would be accepted not offered.

What sort of bid would you accept ?


The lad has got a real chance of making it in the game. He's a goal poacher for one and two his attitude is excellent. His game has loads of rough edges though and at times in general play he looks out of his depth, he did for 45 minutes at Carlisle last game. Don't get me wrong I like him and really think he can have a good career but £350,000 at this stage (if it was reinvested straight into the team) is drive him to Portsmouth yourself territory/glue bag/space cake stuff. Back on planet Earth League Two clubs would probably bid £30-50,000 for a lad with potential who has scored 6 professional goals in his life.

I get the the feeling this is all probably horse shit though in the style of Tshibola signing for £250,000 last Monday.


As usual you dance around the question - if you read my original point I wasn't talking about what clubs would bid for Fenwick. There could very well be offers of £50k or whatever put in for hi but there is no point in letting him leave for a pittance. He might not be the best of players but he will get goals. I


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He's already being likened to Joe Joe Joe Allon by some folk, not quite sure about that one..hoping he has a good season though, double figure return from a striker would be nice


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Is £50,000 a pittance to a club of Pools size?

I'm sure the club would seriously consider any sort of cash offer its a sad reality of where we are in the food chain.

On planet Earth I think they'd be accepting bids way, way below £350,000 which is bonkers for a lad with 6 professional goals to his name. I don't think I've danced around any questions I just have a tighter grip on reality.

As has already been said though I'd imagine it's a load of rubbish anyway but realistically an offer of £50,000 or above if the money was directly reinvested in the team would be worth consideration.


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£50,000 might be a pittance to JPNG . The job they are doing in Finland at the moment for Google is huge so I,m told. Multi million pound job so if it is the case £50,000 would be nothing.


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£50,000 might be a pittance to JPNG . The job they are doing in Finland at the moment for Google is huge so I,m told. Multi million pound job so if it is the case £50,000 would be nothing.



This job?

http://www.electriciansforums.co.uk/electrical-forum-general-electrical-forum/98754-finland-google-data-centre.html

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Is £50,000 a pittance to a club of Pools size?

I'm sure the club would seriously consider any sort of cash offer its a sad reality of where we are in the food chain.

On planet Earth I think they'd be accepting bids way, way below £350,000 which is bonkers for a lad with 6 professional goals to his name. I don't think I've danced around any questions I just have a tighter grip on reality.

As has already been said though I'd imagine it's a load of rubbish anyway but realistically an offer of £50,000 or above if the money was directly reinvested in the team would be worth consideration.
if he bangs in 20 goals this season he will be worth closer to a million. Selling him for 50000 now shows no ambition as a club whatsoever.


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Is £50,000 a pittance to a club of Pools size?

I'm sure the club would seriously consider any sort of cash offer its a sad reality of where we are in the food chain.

On planet Earth I think they'd be accepting bids way, way below £350,000 which is bonkers for a lad with 6 professional goals to his name. I don't think I've danced around any questions I just have a tighter grip on reality.

As has already been said though I'd imagine it's a load of rubbish anyway but realistically an offer of £50,000 or above if the money was directly reinvested in the team would be worth consideration.
if he bangs in 20 goals this season he will be worth closer to a million. Selling him for 50000 now shows no ambition as a club whatsoever.


We'll never get a million quid for a player. Last player who should've gone for that was Tommy Miller and we only ended up with 750k I think. Think we cashed in big time on Luke James the way things have turned out for him down there.


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We should've got a lot more for Don Hutchinson, can't remember the exact fee, but he did score goals everywhere he went including 6 in 26 for Scotland, 1 in a 1-0 win in Germany and another in a 1-0 win against England at Wembley.

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paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
We should've got a lot more for Don Hutchinson, can't remember the exact fee, but he did score goals everywhere he went including 6 in 26 for Scotland, 1 in a 1-0 win in Germany and another in a 1-0 win against England at Wembley.


We got £300k which was huge I thought at the time for someone who had hardly played first team and had already been sacked by the club once !


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paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
We should've got a lot more for Don Hutchinson, can't remember the exact fee, but he did score goals everywhere he went including 6 in 26 for Scotland, 1 in a 1-0 win in Germany and another in a 1-0 win against England at Wembley.


We got £300k which was huge I thought at the time for someone who had hardly played first team and had already been sacked by the club once !


Having said that, the VAT was a Fooker :wink:


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hartlefool79 wrote:
£50,000 might be a pittance to JPNG . The job they are doing in Finland at the moment for Google is huge so I,m told. Multi million pound job so if it is the case £50,000 would be nothing.



This job?

http://www.electriciansforums.co.uk/electrical-forum-general-electrical-forum/98754-finland-google-data-centre.html



Charlie Saville is indeed with JPNG, however it is hardly going to be "multi-millions" for finding workers ...


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Is £50,000 a pittance to a club of Pools size?

I'm sure the club would seriously consider any sort of cash offer its a sad reality of where we are in the food chain.

On planet Earth I think they'd be accepting bids way, way below £350,000 which is bonkers for a lad with 6 professional goals to his name. I don't think I've danced around any questions I just have a tighter grip on reality.

As has already been said though I'd imagine it's a load of rubbish anyway but realistically an offer of £50,000 or above if the money was directly reinvested in the team would be worth consideration.
if he bangs in 20 goals this season he will be worth closer to a million. Selling him for 50000 now shows no ambition as a club whatsoever.


We'll never get a million quid for a player. Last player who should've gone for that was Tommy Miller and we only ended up with 750k I think. Think we cashed in big time on Luke James the way things have turned out for him down there.
we might never get a million but to give possibly our best natural goalscorer away for peanuts now would be crazy.


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Liverpool did Pools a 'favour' via Alan Murray who was Souness's assistant, we were in the s*** and the fee paid settled some debts like wise when Macgovern went to Derby courtesy of Cloughie.


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What lot people aren't taking into consideration here is that we took up the option of the extra year on Fenwick for this season. Now if he doesn't sign a new contract he walks for nothing at the end of the upcoming season. So at end of the day even a bid of £50K would be better than nothing. I don't think he's going anywhere but we need to tie him to a contract and soon.

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What lot people aren't taking into consideration here is that we took up the option of the extra year on Fenwick for this season. Now if he doesn't sign a new contract he walks for nothing at the end of the upcoming season. So at end of the day even a bid of £50K would be better than nothing. I don't think he's going anywhere but we need to tie him to a contract and soon.

Fenwick getting 20 goals and getting us to a play off final or promotion will more than cover the 50000 grand we will lose if he goes on a free. Its time the club got back to being positive and stopped selling our best assets unless the funds are going to improve the squad in general.


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 Post subject: Re: Fenwick...
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 11:07 am 
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Totally agree Mr Billog. An enterprise does not get to be successful by selling off its most promising prototypes.

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 Post subject: Re: Fenwick...
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i think the most point people are making is yes he seems to be the most promising player with regards to how good his finishing is, but he is injury prone even based on 1/2 a season

a club like ourselves does have to consider bids and yes 50k is probably very small fee for someone who could make difference between mid table and playoffs (possible promotion) etc.

ultimately, everyone will have different opinions on value and how much he is worth to the team


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